Legal pot

[sze5003]

Yeah I hear you. I don't work for the federal government but it's a critical position. I also only got tested when I joined. One guy went to Jamaica for vacation and came back and he wasn't retested. Who knows. I think its better than alcohol but it will be a while before it's permitted in all states. Haven't touched it though since college

 

[Saint Nick]

Can't wait to be able to walk into Wally World and pick up a bag of cheap OG!

 

[sze5003]

Can't wait to be able to walk into Wally World and pick up a bag of cheap OG!

Small shops used to sell some Mr nice guy or whatever that was legally. Kind of the same effect. Wal-Mart would have crazy low prices and best of all you could return it if you didn't like it haha

 

[OutHouse]

Can't wait to be able to walk into Wally World and pick up a bag of cheap OG!

if wally world ever does sell pot, it will be a very long time from now.

 

[jagec]

Is a license required to brew your own beer, or make your own wine? If not, then I don't agree with the license part.

I know you can only have so much DIY alcohol at once. My brother in laws were really into this for a while, 20 gallons or something?

Try 100 gallons per year if there is 1 adult in the household, 200 gallons per year if there are 2 or more adults in the household.

And no license needed.

 

[rudder]

1. How is smoking on your offtime any different than drinking in your offtime? It isn't. You would be fired for coming into work drunk and the rules should be the same for weed.

2. White collar professionals already smoke pot and are still great at their job. seriously, smoking pot is not different than alcohol at ALL.

(except one is illegal at a federal level)

THC stays in your system longer. So I imagine this would have some sort of impact of safety sensitive jobs... bus driver, pilot, etc.

 

[Wyndru]

THC stays in your system longer. So I imagine this would have some sort of impact of safety sensitive jobs... bus driver, pilot, etc.

The effects stay longer, or just traces of the substance? Because I don't ever remember smoking when I was younger and being messed up for more than 1 day, but alcohol in large quantities basically screws up my whole next day. There have been times where I have woken up drunk, but I've never had that with pot (that I can remember, it's been a long time).

 

[destrekor]

I think it's stupid to debate about weed and work functionality when there's plenty of bankers who snort cocaine.
A fat, lazy and stupid stoner is like a fat, lazy and stupid alcoholic: a special case that doesn't justify bans.

Also I would not speak about pot at work even if it was legal, it's like talking about how you got shitfaced last saturday: dangerous and stupid.

I think that saying "let's go for a beer" is different because you don't get drunk.
Saying "let's go smoke after work" is like saying "let's go get hammered" because it has a real effect. And that's something I'd not say.

It doesn't have to be that way. You don't have to get stoned out of our mind, couch-lock and all.

I think that's only quite common due to the nature of it being illegal. Many won't use it frequently but will get themselves so far gone when they have the opportunity, just because they like the feeling.

If they care to lead professional lives, remain available to do most things during the day, whatever, it's naturally self-limiting. Some people enjoying getting hammered drunk once every now and then, but still likely find themselves drinking just one or two beers more often than not.

It's not that difficult to reach the same level with marijuana. Especially with the different strains out there - for some types, even heavy usage of one strain won't lead to the same "omg I don't want to move" feeling, or it does at very high levels but even "wow I'm high" levels still lead to an "omg let's go do something!" attitude and energy.

I don't think it will be as common as a "let's go have a smoke at the pub" situation, like with beer, but I think people will have the same attitude with it. Maybe they'll simply having a single toke or two once they get home or if they are sitting around with buddies somewhere, use that to unwind without getting blitzed. Enjoy the meal a little more, or become relaxed enough to think about something more creatively, etc.

When people have legalized access to it, and for many of them suddenly have access to much higher-quality strains (and perhaps shop proprietors will be able to explain the differences between strains), I think they'll tone it down.

Just look at how many high school kids regularly made use of alcohol simply to get as drunk as possible when they had access to it, but calmed down to a "I'll have a single beer tonight after dinner" mindsets. I'm that way with alcohol. I used to only use it to get drunk, now I'll still get drunk but that's at most once every other week for the most part, with friends. I'll enjoy one or two craft brews more often than not.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Try 100 gallons per year if there is 1 adult in the household, 200 gallons per year if there are 2 or more adults in the household.

And no license needed.

Thanks for the info. Is there a limit to how much you can have on hand at one time though? That was my question.

 

[Theb]

Drinking alcohol makes you homeless. A typical wine connoisseur -

 

[Jeffg010]

It doesn't have to be that way. You don't have to get stoned out of our mind, couch-lock and all.

I think that's only quite common due to the nature of it being illegal. Many won't use it frequently but will get themselves so far gone when they have the opportunity, just because they like the feeling.

If they care to lead professional lives, remain available to do most things during the day, whatever, it's naturally self-limiting. Some people enjoying getting hammered drunk once every now and then, but still likely find themselves drinking just one or two beers more often than not.

It's not that difficult to reach the same level with marijuana. Especially with the different strains out there - for some types, even heavy usage of one strain won't lead to the same "omg I don't want to move" feeling, or it does at very high levels but even "wow I'm high" levels still lead to an "omg let's go do something!" attitude and energy.

I don't think it will be as common as a "let's go have a smoke at the pub" situation, like with beer, but I think people will have the same attitude with it. Maybe they'll simply having a single toke or two once they get home or if they are sitting around with buddies somewhere, use that to unwind without getting blitzed. Enjoy the meal a little more, or become relaxed enough to think about something more creatively, etc.

When people have legalized access to it, and for many of them suddenly have access to much higher-quality strains (and perhaps shop proprietors will be able to explain the differences between strains), I think they'll tone it down.

Just look at how many high school kids regularly made use of alcohol simply to get as drunk as possible when they had access to it, but calmed down to a "I'll have a single beer tonight after dinner" mindsets. I'm that way with alcohol. I used to only use it to get drunk, now I'll still get drunk but that's at most once every other week for the most part, with friends. I'll enjoy one or two craft brews more often than not.

I think you are fooling yourself. Look at cigarette smoking, there are tons people who can't go 10 mins with out a cigarette. Cigarette smokers will stand in -10 degree weather just to get a toke. What makes you think it be any different with MJ? I seen people try to quite 10+ times to never kick the habit. You even have people on this very board claim it the hardest thing to over come.

And the thing about alcohol it is much harder to carry then compared to a joint. People would just get a cigarette pack and stuff it full of joints. It is much harder to carry a can of beer or wine bottle of wine around.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I think you are fooling yourself. Look at cigarette smoking, there are tons people who can't go 10 mins with out a cigarette. Cigarette smokers will stand in -10 degree weather just to get a toke. What makes you think it be any different with MJ? I seen people try to quite 10+ times to never kick the habit. You even have people on this very board claim it the hardest thing to over come.

And the thing about alcohol it is much harder to carry then compared to a joint. People would just get a cigarette pack and stuff it full of joints. It is much harder to carry a can of beer or wine bottle of wine around.

So what you're saying is that habitual use of tobacco or alcohol is deemed acceptable by society, but MJ is the devil weed?

 

[Jeffg010]

So what you're saying is that habitual use of tobacco or alcohol is deemed acceptable by society, but MJ is the devil weed?

I did not say that I just pointing out what is going to happen. Do you not think people will smoke MJ just as much as they smoke cigarettes?

 

[Yourself]

I did not say that I just pointing out what is going to happen. Do you not think people will smoke MJ just as much as they smoke cigarettes?

They won't actually IMO.

 

[Puppies04]

Not agreed. Lots of people smoke and don't get stoned out of their minds. Just a few puffs to elevate their mood or to make dinner more delicious.

I think the "stoners have to get completly shit faced every time they smoke" idea comes from the fact that weed just keeps on getting stronger and stronger. You would really struggle to find a mellow strain of weed that you could smoke with your friends just to get a little buzz and carry on with your night.

I haven't smoked (regularly) for years but when I did it always seemed that every few months there was a new "better" weed avaliable and it was naturally stronger than the stuff it replaced.

If you look at the prohibition era it was the exact same problem, you couldn't get a 4% beer to save your life but 80% moonshine was avaliable from every back alley and illegal booze den. One could argue that legalisation would enable only the weaker varieties to be sold and the stronger stuff would become harder and harder to get hold of.

 

[Murloc]

And the thing about alcohol it is much harder to carry then compared to a joint. People would just get a cigarette pack and stuff it full of joints. It is much harder to carry a can of beer or wine bottle of wine around.

remember far west movies, when strangers meet on a train and one offers a sip?
it's the same thing really.
Today anybody will think you're a drunkard if you carry strong liquor in the jacket pocket and it's not a habit anymore, but that doesn't mean it's not possible to use alcohol the same way cigarettes, snus, or chewing tobacco are, thanks to these flasks.
Also I see on american television series that people often have a bottle of liquor in their office. I don't know if that's true or not though

anyway I hope they gather data about the places where it was legalized so we can know the truth about legal usage once and for all.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I did not say that I just pointing out what is going to happen. Do you not think people will smoke MJ just as much as they smoke cigarettes?

You are saying what you believe will happen. I think people already do what you are thinking. You are none the wiser. Cigs vs MJ is greatly different. And no, THC is not anywhere close to as physically addictive as Nicotine. People's mental ability to quit, thats not the drug's fault...it's a human problem.

 

[Saint Nick]

I did not say that I just pointing out what is going to happen. Do you not think people will smoke MJ just as much as they smoke cigarettes?

I think you are fooling yourself. Look at cigarette smoking, there are tons people who can't go 10 mins with out a cigarette. Cigarette smokers will stand in -10 degree weather just to get a toke. What makes you think it be any different with MJ? I seen people try to quite 10+ times to never kick the habit. You even have people on this very board claim it the hardest thing to over come.

And the thing about alcohol it is much harder to carry then compared to a joint. People would just get a cigarette pack and stuff it full of joints. It is much harder to carry a can of beer or wine bottle of wine around.

And you are fooling yourself if you think MJ has the same addictive properties that tobacco does.

 

[umbrella39]

Both alcohol and weed are bad for you. The latter has the added drawback of making you stupid, fat, lazy and unmotivated.

Ahh... think you should have waited about one to two more sentences before declaring this:

"That is the most ignorant thing Ive have read all night."

 

[Jeffg010]

And you are fooling yourself if you think MJ has the same addictive properties that tobacco does.

Do you know of any studies that have been done on this? I found some but they are from the Surgeon General AKA "the government" and I'm sure you would just brush those reports off as saying the government will be one sided.

 

[preslove]

Look at cigarette smoking, there are tons people who can't go 10 mins with out a cigarette. Cigarette smokers will stand in -10 degree weather just to get a toke. What makes you think it be any different with MJ?

They're completely different drugs, you idiot. As someone who's done both, Cigs are much more addictive.

 

[Puppies04]

I think you are fooling yourself. Look at cigarette smoking, there are tons people who can't go 10 mins with out a cigarette. Cigarette smokers will stand in -10 degree weather just to get a toke. What makes you think it be any different with MJ? I seen people try to quite 10+ times to never kick the habit. You even have people on this very board claim it the hardest thing to over come. And the thing about alcohol it is much harder to carry then compared to a joint. People would just get a cigarette pack and stuff it full of joints. It is much harder to carry a can of beer or wine bottle of wine around.

Are you seriously trying to say that weed is as addictive as nicotine? If so you really don't know what you are talking about. You can smoke weed without even adding any tobacco, which for anyone who doesn't smoke cigarettes would be my suggested method of taking it.

As for your observation that it is a lot harder to carry alcohol than joints can I just point out how easy it is to empty a soft drink bottle and replace the contents with your alcohol of choice. Do you see people doing this at work? Are we all secret alcoholics? Have you ever had your boss come up to you and ask to smell your mountain dew because you could have put some vodka in it?

Point taken?

 

[preslove]

Do you know of any studies that have been done on this? I found some but they are from the Surgeon General AKA "the government" and I'm sure you would just brush those reports off as saying the government will be one sided.

You have not found studies that say they have the same addictive properties, you fucking liar.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I did not say that I just pointing out what is going to happen. Do you not think people will smoke MJ just as much as they smoke cigarettes?

Only the unemployed pot heads, of which the majority of clientele will be. That or on Obamas sugar tits, gettin' stoned instead of looking for a job.

Pot smokers are day dreamers. The nictoene addicts that need a daily fix several times a day can go back to work after smoking. Pot heads will come in dazed and confused off in la-la land.

Once this legalization wave sweeps the rest of the country, you will be wondering if the person on the phone you are talking to at your favorite bank, mortgage company, doctors office, insurance co, coworks are stoned when you are talking to them.

How to tell if you are on the phone with pot head:


1) If they things like "DUH, I DUNNO"

2) If they do not quickly and effeciently answer your questions. Since they are off in la-la land, and THC clouds the thinking centers they cant process information as fast as they otherwise could. Expect long delays between answers.

3) If they give non-sensical answers to your questions just to make it sound as if they are providing information but in fact are just saying nothing, you are talking to a pothead.

4) If you hear a cigarette lighter going off, a brief pause followed by an "ahhhhh".......you are talking to a stoner.

If any of the above happens, get the guys/girls name and hang up the phone. Then call back and report their ass! :ninja:

 

[Jeffg010]

Only the unemployed pot heads, of which the majority of clientele will be. That or on Obamas sugar tits, gettin' stoned instead of looking for a job.

Pot smokers are day dreamers. The nictoene addicts that need a daily fix several times a day can go back to work after smoking. Pot heads will come in dazed and confused off in la-la land.

Once this legalization wave sweeps the rest of the country, you will be wondering if the person on the phone you are talking to at your favorite bank, mortgage company, doctors office, insurance co, coworks are stoned when you are talking to them.

How to tell if you are on the phone with pot head:


1) If they things like "DUH, I DUNNO"

2) If they do not quickly and effeciently answer your questions. Since they are off in la-la land, and THC clouds the thinking centers they cant process information as fast as they otherwise could. Expect long delays between answers.

3) If they give non-sensical answers to your questions just to make it sound as if they are providing information but in fact are just saying nothing, you are talking to a pothead.

4) If you hear a cigarette lighter going off, a brief pause followed by an "ahhhhh".......you are talking to a stoner.

If any of the above happens, get the guys/girls name and hang up the phone. Then call back and report their ass! :ninja:

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