legal to bring firearm if hiking or camping?

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deadlyapp

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You can concealed carry only if you have a CA CCW in California's National Parks IIRC.



Is it? I thought as long as it's not loaded you're good to go. Long guns aren't concealable so you can stick it in a backpack (if it'll fit) and still be legal even without a CCW permit.

I meant riskier as far as the look if you ran across someone else on the trail. And you'd pretty much have to have it slung, in a backpack would be considered concealed AFAIK, but i'm not sure about that aspect.
 

Wyndru

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I hate seeing bears when I'm hiking, but it happens fairly often. I don't even have a plan as to what I would do if I'd been chased/attacked. I might look into the flares or bear mace as mentioned above. I don't have a gun license, and I'm not sure what NY's laws are on hiking with a firearm.
 

mizzou

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I always carry something while hiking, if not bears depending on where you are the people arent so grat either
 

mizzou

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I hate seeing bears when I'm hiking, but it happens fairly often. I don't even have a plan as to what I would do if I'd been chased/attacked. I might look into the flares or bear mace as mentioned above. I don't have a gun license, and I'm not sure what NY's laws are on hiking with a firearm.

definitly get some bear mace. Its relatively cheap!
 

JTsyo

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Heard a story from my old boss of a buddy of his that was chased by a bear. He ran up a tree and when the bear started following him up he pulled out his 45 and took aim. Hit the bear right in the forehead and the bear shook it off and kept coming. He then emptied the clip and the bear got annoyed and went away (probably died some time later). handgun might not have the stopping power to kill a bear before he gets to you.
 

Brovane

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Heard a story from my old boss of a buddy of his that was chased by a bear. He ran up a tree and when the bear started following him up he pulled out his 45 and took aim. Hit the bear right in the forehead and the bear shook it off and kept coming. He then emptied the clip and the bear got annoyed and went away (probably died some time later). handgun might not have the stopping power to kill a bear before he gets to you.

Depends on the handgun that you are using. Their are powerful enough hunting revolvers that will bring down some fairly large game. However the standard caliber autos will probably not have much effect. Maybe some Corbon +P+ 45 ammo. You put this with a Para-Ordnance .45 with a double stack magazine you have 14 shots of supersonic 45 bullets going down range.
 
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If you're camping, the odds of running into a police officer are less than your odds of running into a bear, so you should probably take the gun. I've been camping lots of times, seen a number of bears, and never once saw a uniformed officer. You may run into a park ranger, I suppose, but as long as you aren't hunting, I think they'd let you be.
 

Farmer

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Less likely to have cops called if you're in unpopulated areas. We open carried recently in San Luis Obispo without any issues through the downtown area.

If it's a national forest or something like that it also falls under slightly different laws. I believe this past year they made it legal to carry on national property as long as you don't enter a national building (IE a ranger station or info center)

You really should explore the laws on calguns before doing so though.

Though, I wouldn't really recommend open carry in any populated area, regardless of legality.
 

bommy261

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If you're proficient with a firearm (as all owners should be), loading a pistol takes very little time. If it's wildlife you're concerned about, a few seconds won't make a difference.

Um no. Every second makes the difference. I know if a bear sees me and starts charging from 30-50 ft, that 1 second could mean the difference between being lunch and surviving.
 

hdfxst

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Um no. Every second makes the difference. I know if a bear sees me and starts charging from 30-50 ft, that 1 second could mean the difference between being lunch and surviving.

That's why you always hike with a friend so you can shoot him in the leg,should give you enough time to get away
 

mattpegher

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Openly carrying a firearm depends on the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States

Most of the states where you may run into dangerous bear such as Grizzly will allow open carry. Here on the east coast it depends on the state but most of the bear will not attack without provocation, such as you messing with their cubs. Here in northwestern new jersey I have bear in my back yard on a daily basis. I can usually scare them away with loud noises such as yelling and striking a stick on a tree or rock. But I have open carried a handgun when hiking in some of the more remote parts of Pennsylvania. As long as your food is hung high or in a bear box, they shouldnt bother you.
 

JulesMaximus

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Only if you get drunk and fire it into the air repeatedly while sitting around the campfire.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I camp quite a bit. The only bears that have caused problems were Grizzlies and Kodiacs. You're only going to annoy them with a handgun. I REALLY don't want to be around a pissed off Kodiac.
 

mizzou

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I camp quite a bit. The only bears that have caused problems were Grizzlies and Kodiacs. You're only going to annoy them with a handgun. I REALLY don't want to be around a pissed off Kodiac.

A gun will help in those instances a bear isn't necessarily looking for a fight to the death, but curious or very hungry and being opportunistic.

the more difficult of a meal you are the more the bear will want to move on
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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A gun will help in those instances a bear isn't necessarily looking for a fight to the death, but curious or very hungry and being opportunistic.

the more difficult of a meal you are the more the bear will want to move on

EXCEPT, when you startle it with a loud noise or, cause it sudden pain or, both at the same time.
 

mizzou

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EXCEPT, when you startle it with a loud noise or, cause it sudden pain or, both at the same time.

hey I'm just trying to be positive lol,

I get nervous enough as it is with black bear encounters, I can't imagine coming across a bear that is 3-5 times it's size
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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hey I'm just trying to be positive lol,

I get nervous enough as it is with black bear encounters, I can't imagine coming across a bear that is 3-5 times it's size

I have nothing against handguns. I like them for particular jobs but, camping/hiking isn't one of them. A rifle would be more useful.

In bear country, putting your food and foot wear in bear proof cans away from your tent and NEVER snack in your tent is the way to go. Honestly, I've had MUCH more trouble over the years with porcupines, mule deer and skunks than bears. Oh yeah, moose can be more aggressive than bears too.
 

pontifex

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ok ...

We haven't run into any yet, but the plan is to toss him the clip and shoot a few in the air, noise should scare em off...if not, take aim I guess.

please tell me this is a joke? you just went from dumb to mentally retarded.
 
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