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Ns1

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lol accurate. You could define "drugs" as almost anything in that sense.

it's literally right there.

Caffeine is a psychological stimulant.[7] It is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug, but unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the world. Part of the reason caffeine is classified by the Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) is that toxic doses, over 10 grams per day for an adult, are much higher than the typically used doses of under 500 milligrams per day: an over twentyfold difference.



inb4 "wikipedia is not a source!"
 

Ruptga

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lol accurate. You could define "drugs" as almost anything in that sense.

Yes, but this time the straw man does have a point. The category of "drugs" extends way beyond the lists created by the Controlled Substances Act. The whole point of his mostly unprovoked rant was that the main reason we look down on certain drugs while ignoring others is cultural inertia, not hard facts.
 

mnewsham

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And if you consider having a beer or drinking a cup of coffee "doing drugs" well I can't help it that you don't understand the definition of that phrase

You obviously have no idea how pot influences the mind and body, as the effects are on par with caffeine consumption, and generally less debilitating than alcohol.
 

zinfamous

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I've NEVER had a single prescription drug, ever, so you just lost $20. But that's OK, I won't actually ask you pay it because I'm a nice guy

And if you consider having a beer or drinking a cup of coffee "doing drugs" well I can't help it that you don't understand the definition of that phrase

And no, I don't need that cup of coffee every day. I can just as easily do without. No, I don't get drunk, ever. I rarely even touch an OTC painkiller like Tylenol.

Heh, I find it funny how bent out of shape some of you get over my refusal to touch pot I even said I couldn't care less if it was legalized but I guess that isn't good enough lol.

huh? I think you are just naive about the reality of drugs in our culture, and the substances that are actually considered drugs.

caffeine? absolutely. It's extremely addictive and can certainly kill the shit out of a human--and with an alarmingly "moderate" concentration.
 

Ns1

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huh? I think you are just naive about the reality of drugs in our culture, and the substances that are actually considered drugs.

caffeine? absolutely. It's extremely addictive and can certainly kill the shit out of a human--and with an alarmingly "moderate" concentration.

shut the fuck up with your facts bro. drugs are bad m'kay?

*sips on 22oz iced coffee cup*
 

TreVader

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Lol.

Ok guys delivery number two. Last one because I won't be needing to buy more for another month or so.

I went to Weedland this time, specifically to get wax and shatter and maybe an edible. I got all three, and as usual wasted $10 on flowers I don't need. Whatever.

Here are the pics!

List of things I got:
1 Gram SFV OG Wax $45
.5 Gram Tahoelicious shatter $35
1 Remedy plus sour gummy strip edible 300mg
1G Blackberry KK flowers

And they have me a free preroll joint which I promptly lost in my car somewhere. Oh well.

Here is the Lot:


Here is the Super expensive shatter. It's been tested by SC Labs @ 90.7% THC and 1.6 % CBD. 0.5% CBN




Here is the SFV OG wax. Cheaper and untested, from the looks of it 60-70% THC/CBD





And here is the Edible that I got. Am about to eat it now.



And here is the weed I bought, Blackberry Khalifa Kush.



What do you guys think?


For $98 total, not bad IMO.
 
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Markbnj

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Now you sound (correct me if I am wrong) like you want to be able to work, drive and do other potentially dangerous activities high? You will *NEVER* get that to fly in America, no mater how much anecdotal evidence you have of being able to fly high just fine.

I said no such thing. I am simply saying that marijuana is not "exactly like alcohol." The two substances have vastly different effects. Alcohol is not a reasonable model for understanding how marijuana affects people. That is all.
 

FelixDeCat

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They're both disgusting And smokers of both persuasions are assholes for lighting up around other people, indoors or outdoors. Both seem to believe that their smoke magically vanishs as they exhale. Last weekend I had to leave a concert I had driven five hundred miles to attend because a bunch of fuckstain pot smokers chose to light up in a packed concert hall. Bunch of inconsiderate assholes.

:thumbsup:
 

Ns1

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I said no such thing. I am simply saying that marijuana is not "exactly like alcohol." The two substances have vastly different effects. Alcohol is not a reasonable model for understanding how marijuana affects people. That is all.

You're totally correct - alcohol is way more dangerous.
 

TreVader

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I never smoke outside of my apartment or house unless I'm on a long trip. It's just not worth it.

I agree that smoking pot around other people (who you don't know, and who aren't also smoking pot) is very rude and disgusting, but that applies to all smoking, and frankly pot smokers put a LOT more effort into avoiding other people when they smoke than tobacco smokers or worse yet, ecig smokers.


EDIT: Ate the gummies, they are good. I found the tests for the SFV wax I got and its actually a lot better than I thought. Obviously not 85%+ like shatter... but 80%+ ain't bad.


http://sclabs.com/sample-detail.html?id=32549


For $45 a gram, that's impressive.
 
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TreVader

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#socalproblems

Wow, I think your shatter may be better. I don't understand the nomenclature for some of this stuff. I've bought "Nug Run Shatter", which is what I appear to have bought today, and regular shatter like what you have. Nug run for some reason is the most expensive shatter you can buy (maybe purest?) but there is a company called "Moxie" that sells their stuff for $90/g and it's like glass (like what you have).


Hard to say if you can really tell how good something is by looking at it (with concentrates).

Nice stuff. I thought about picking up some GSC, but there is a club in Torrance called South Bay Collective that has THE MOST BOMB strain of Champagne Kush. It's a 50/50 hybrid and it's amazing. Highly reccomend that spot, even over this one I went to today. They also do 5G of top shelf for 10/G of anything you want (even five different kinds) for $50 on first time patients.

If I could name one strain over the last two months that was perfect for any occaision, it's champagne Kush.
 
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SparkyJJO

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huh? I think you are just naive about the reality of drugs in our culture, and the substances that are actually considered drugs.

caffeine? absolutely. It's extremely addictive and can certainly kill the shit out of a human--and with an alarmingly "moderate" concentration.

<shrug> Fine, whatever, I really don't care.

Coffee tastes good. OK.
Beer (good beer, not bud light pee water) tastes good. OK.
Weed? Uh... you get high from it? Meh. No interest in that.

So yeah, still have absolutely zero desire to touch it. Go ahead and legalize it nationally if it makes people happier and not so ridiculously defensive over it.
 

mnewsham

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Weed? Uh... you get high from it? Meh. No interest in that.

Pot tastes good too to people who have tried it (generally). Just like if you give a kid a taste of beer, they probably wont like it. But many people generally learn to enjoy beer later in life when they can legally drink it.

Also, the buzz you get from a few drinks is going to be a lot more debilitating than getting "high" from smoking some pot, especially if you have smoked pot even a few times before.

It's fine you have no interest in it, but your definition of what is or isnt a drug is just way out of wack. and you have little to no understanding of how marijuana actually interacts with the body.
 

WelshBloke

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Also, the buzz you get from a few drinks is going to be a lot more debilitating than getting "high" from smoking some pot, especially if you have smoked pot even a few times before.

Not really. The strains of pot now and the concentrated forms of it are just designed to get you as blasted as possible as quickly as possible.
At least with beer you can pick a weak session beer and either have a few and little effect or drink them all night and still be fairly sober.

Admittedly the pot 'arms race' is a side effect of its illegal nature and and argument for its legalisation but I think even then it's going to take a while to get it to a normal level.
 

mnewsham

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Not really. The strains of pot now and the concentrated forms of it are just designed to get you as blasted as possible as quickly as possible.
At least with beer you can pick a weak session beer and either have a few and little effect or drink them all night and still be fairly sober.

Admittedly the pot 'arms race' is a side effect of its illegal nature and and argument for its legalisation but I think even then it's going to take a while to get it to a normal level.

Bullshit, there is no pot arms race, pot is only getting better in quality because its easier to grow good quality weed, you could get just as high quality weed back in the 70s and 80s, it was just a lot more rare because the information on how to properly grow the weed wasn't available on the internet like it is today. That doesn't mean it didn't exist at all though, 20%+ THC strains have been around for decades, hell even 30% THC strains have been around for awhile, and those are fairly rare even today.


Also, most pot smokers I know, take a few hits and are good. They aren't sitting there taking hit after hit trying to get as blazed as possible, just how most drinkers don't drink an entire 750ml bottle a night. Or sit there doing 10-15 shots in a row. They drink until they are comfortable, then stop. The problem with alcohol is it impairs judgement and you might not know when to stop drinking. Pot doesn't have that problem. Sure you can smoke a whole lot and get a bit "too high" but all that entails is sleeping, alcohol can lead to black out drunken rage, or throwing up in your mouth and drowning yourself in your own vomit.


Basically, you don't really know what you're talking about if you think everyone who smokes pot gets instantly super baked every single time they smoke. That isn't the goal for most smokers, just how getting blackout drunk isn't the goal for most drinkers.


I can take 1 solid hit and be almost sober but still feeling a bit of the high and be perfectly happy. Just how you can have a drink with dinner and not get even close to drunk and be perfectly happy. Moderation is key with anything.
 

WelshBloke

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Bullshit, there is no pot arms race,

Really? Things like shatter are sold on what basis if not their strength?

Pot is getting stronger. As you say below.


pot is only getting better in quality because its easier to grow good quality weed, you could get just as high quality weed back in the 70s and 80s, it was just a lot more rare because the information on how to properly grow the weed wasn't available on the internet like it is today. That doesn't mean it didn't exist at all though, 20%+ THC strains have been around for decades, hell even 30% THC strains have been around for awhile, and those are fairly rare even today.

If more of the stuff being smoked then was weaker than now then that would mean that the stuff being smoked now is stronger than then, yes?



I'm not getting into a Pot>Beer argument. They both have their place its just that weed needs to get beyond the whole prohibition phase and grow up.
 

mnewsham

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Really? Things like shatter are sold on what basis if not their strength?

Pot is getting stronger. As you say below.

They are sold on their THCa//CBD/CBN content, which have different effects and varying usefulness depending on the patient.

If more of the stuff being smoked then was weaker than now then that would mean that the stuff being smoked now is stronger than then, yes?
The cheap easy to get mexican ditch weed has been and always will be weak shit, and it is still commonly sold to high school kids and poorer people who don't know better or can't afford better weed. Back in the day it was a lot easier to find so, many people in the mid west especially or places where there wasn't a large growing community would get this crappy low quality weed. However, you COULD still get high quality 20% THC weed back in the day, you either had to be growing it yourself, know a quality grower, or know someone who is importing from south america. Connoisseurs were still getting their high quality weed, even if it was rare and more expensive.

Now, to your point about shatter and other concentrates, BHO (concentrates, oil, etc) has been around since at least the 70s if not before, pressed hash has been around for hundreds of years before this and hash can be way more powerful than just smoking the regular plant. Hash can even be more powerful than low end shatter. But hey, this arms race has only been going on for the past few years right? We can't have more powerful pot because that's obviously worse for you even though several hundred years of anecdotal evidence says otherwise.


I'm not getting into a Pot>Beer argument. They both have their place its just that weed needs to get beyond the whole prohibition phase and grow up.
That's fine, but you essentially are acting like all people who smoke pot are the same as drinkers who binge drink every day. Which couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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WelshBloke

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They are sold on their THCa//CBD/CBN content, which have different effects and varying usefulness depending on the patient.

Yeah. Totally not sold on how blitzed they'll get you.


The cheap easy to get mexican ditch weed has been and always will be weak shit, and it is still commonly sold to high school kids and poorer people who don't know better or can't afford better weed. Back in the day it was a lot easier to find so, many people in the mid west especially or places where there wasn't a large growing community would get this crappy low quality weed. However, you COULD still get high quality 20% THC weed back in the day, you either had to be growing it yourself, know a quality grower, or know someone who is importing from south america. Connoisseurs were still getting their high quality weed, even if it was rare and more expensive.

The reason doesnt really matter, the average pot smoked by the guy on the street is stronger now than ever.

Now, to your point about shatter and other concentrates, BHO (concentrates, oil, etc) has been around since at least the 70s if not before, pressed hash has been around for hundreds of years before this and hash can be way more powerful than just smoking the regular plant. Hash can even be more powerful than low end shatter.

Hash used to be the predominant source of THC in the UK in the 80s. You know why?

Because of its strength it was easy to smuggle enough to make a profit.
The potency of street forms of THC was a side effect of its illegality.


That's fine, but you essentially are acting like all people who smoke pot are the same as drinkers who binge drink every day. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

No I'm not. I'm just saying that pot is marketed more on strength and valued on the same.
 

mnewsham

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Hash used to be the predominant source of THC in the UK in the 80s. You know why?

Because of its strength it was easy to smuggle enough to make a profit.
The potency of street forms of THC was a side effect of its illegality.

How are you making this claim? Based on what?

I like hash and other concentrates because I can take 1 hit and be just as high as if I had smoked an entire joint. It's easier on my lungs and it generally works instantly or within a few moments.

Potency is a GOOD thing because it means I need to smoke LESS in order to get medicated. I would MUCH rather take a single dab of shatter than to smoke a whole unfiltered joint which is going to make me cough and retch for 30 minutes.

I just don't understand how potency = bad?

Vodka must be terrible, why would ANYONE want to drink vodka when they could just drink 5-10x as much liquid in beer instead and get the same alcohol content.
 

WelshBloke

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How are you making this claim? Based on what?

I used to know people who smuggled it into the UK in the 80s and thats exactly why they and everyone else used to concentrate on smuggling hash rather than weed.

I like hash and other concentrates because I can take 1 hit and be just as high as if I had smoked an entire joint. It's easier on my lungs and it generally works instantly or within a few moments.

Potency is a GOOD thing because it means I need to smoke LESS in order to get medicated. I would MUCH rather take a single dab of shatter than to smoke a whole unfiltered joint which is going to make me cough and retch for 30 minutes.

I just don't understand how potency = bad?

Vodka must be terrible, why would ANYONE want to drink vodka when they could just drink 5-10x as much liquid in beer instead and get the same alcohol content.


But the whole drinks industry doesnt market by going 'Look at our product! Its the strongest!!11!! It'll get you buzzed after one hit!!1121!!'.
 

mnewsham

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But the whole drinks industry doesnt market by going 'Look at our product! Its the strongest!!11!! It'll get you buzzed after one hit!!1121!!'.

And you seem to think that's how the pot industry advertises which is wrong.

Is stating the alcohol content of liquor on the bottle advertising it's potency too? oh god 60% ABV, DRUNK IN 1 SHOT !!???!!!!111111!?!!ONE ONE ONE one 11111!

The reason you have THC%, CBD%, and CBN% is because they have different effects. If you know what you like you can more easily pick something you know will work for you. If you see a beer is 9% ABV and you know you prefer lighter beers, you might say nah, i'll get something around 5% ABV instead.




I dont see the market advertising blazed in 1 hit or anything like that at all, and I highly doubt you are seeing it anywhere either, you seem to have some weird idea of what pot legalization looks like in this country, and you're fairly far off the mark.
 
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