Legal Weed Thread.... updated 1/31/15

[WelshBloke]

And you seem to think that's how the pot industry advertises which is wrong.

*Looks up at thread*

Nope people are obviously not buying on strength at all.

Is stating the alcohol content of liquor on the bottle advertising it's potency too? oh god 60% ABV, DRUNK IN 1 SHOT !!???!!!!111111!?!!ONE ONE ONE one 11111!

Its there primarily because its illegal to sell alcoholic drinks without the strength on.

Now there certainly are drinks that are sold just on their strength (everclear comes to mind), but I dont think that thats something to aspire to.

The reason you have THC%, CBD%, and CBN% is because they have different effects. If you know what you like you can more easily pick something you know will work for you. If you see a beer is 9% ABV and you know you prefer lighter beers, you might say nah, i'll get something around 5% ABV instead.

I'd hope that most drinkers dont pick their drinks just on how strong they are.

I dont see the market advertising blazed in 1 hit or anything like that at all, and I highly doubt you are seeing it anywhere either, you seem to have some weird idea of what pot legalization looks like in this country, and you're fairly far off the mark.

Fair enough that you dont see it, but I see the worst side of the alcohol marketing shenanigans in the pot market.
The making of narcotic candies, pushing of higher strength=higher quality, the 'its good for you' angle, the 'stronger than everything else' line. All those things have been done (and hopefully) discredited in the drinks industry.

 

[mnewsham]

*Looks up at thread*

Nope people are obviously not buying on strength at all.

But again, if someone buys a bottle of vodka, they generally aren't buying it because it's got such high alcohol content they can get drunk super fast. They are buying it because they like vodka.

Are SOME people buying cheap vodka to get hammered every day? Sure. Just how I am sure SOME smokers buy a ton of wax/oil and do dabs all day every day. The majority of people buying vodka however are going to take it home, put it in the freezer and have a few drinks here or there for the next week or longer.

Just how when I buy oil I spend the next week or two having a dab every now and then.


Moderation is key, you dont need to demonize concentrates or high quality flower. Especially when these concentrates are generally safer than the other common methods of consumption.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Funny the direction this conversation has taken.

Prior to legalization there had been a number of conservatives in the state who were rather worried and a little upset that Colorado might see a wave of 'pot tourism'. And the negative effect it could have on the state's image. I just shook my head and thought: Really? Who does that?

Then this past fall I was in a bar and met a weird little man who was vacationing in Colorado just for the opportunity to legally get baked out of his mind. We had been having some unusually warm, absolutely beautiful fall weather and this little guy had flown in from Maryland or Ohio or some damned place just to partake and do absolutely nothing else. He kept pulling this little wrapper out of his pocket and going on about how it contained more THC than anything else you could buy. He was very proud of it, actually. Strange, strange little fellow.

 

[T9D]

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[Ruptga]

WelshBloke is right. Strong weed is more common than ever and it's not that hard (especially for a noobs that doesn't know any better) to get stoned out of one's mind. They're probably not as dangerous as a blackout drunk, but it's still not good. A lack of standardization, available information, and proper labeling are all obvious tendencies for illegal products. The sooner that changes, the better off we will all be.

 

[Ns1]

I'd hope that most drinkers dont pick their drinks just on how strong they are.

people aint taking shots cuz it tastes good.

 

[WelshBloke]

people aint taking shots cuz it tastes good.

Really?

People dont like the taste of single malt Whisky or Armagnac or Calvados they just drink it because?

If youre drinking just to get pissed rather than for the taste you are exactly the thing that I'm arguing against.

 

[TreVader]

Not really. The strains of pot now and the concentrated forms of it are just designed to get you as blasted as possible as quickly as possible.
At least with beer you can pick a weak session beer and either have a few and little effect or drink them all night and still be fairly sober.

Admittedly the pot 'arms race' is a side effect of its illegal nature and and argument for its legalisation but I think even then it's going to take a while to get it to a normal level.

This is not true.

An example would be the strains I purchased and took pics of this week. The club offered tested stuff that went up to 28%, and was actually cheaper than the 26% stuff I ended up getting (the crystal coma). If I was only looking for " the strongest" I wouldn't have even purchased flowers, I would have gone straight to concentrate.

Concentrates will always be rated and priced by potency, but you are wrong about only being there to "get you baked".

One of the concentrates I purchased (caviar gold CBD) doesn't even really get you "high" mentally. It's non-psychoactive but does remove neuropathic pain.


The comparison to alcohol is actually pretty apt in this case because you can go into the club with the mentality that all you want is the fastest way to get baked, which is what people who aren't really there for pain do, or you can look for specifics strains you like (i.e. Crystal Coma) and pick based on flavor and effects.

 

[TreVader]

Here is a pic of Santa Cruz Girl Scout Cookies. Got it from South Bay collective in Torrance. Best example I've ever seen.

 

[xaeniac]

Colorado would say a its a success story

 

[Markbnj]

WelshBloke is right. Strong weed is more common than ever and it's not that hard (especially for a noobs that doesn't know any better) to get stoned out of one's mind. They're probably not as dangerous as a blackout drunk, but it's still not good. A lack of standardization, available information, and proper labeling are all obvious tendencies for illegal products. The sooner that changes, the better off we will all be.

Probably not as dangerous as a black-out drunk? Yeah, I'd say not. I don't even know what "stoned out of one's mind" is supposed to mean here. Regardless of how much THC you ingest it will never have the devastating effect on central nervous system function that alcohol does. And it's not the black-out part of a drunk that is dangerous, unless you're sitting on a railroad track. Imagine what the guy who blacked out was like four drinks earlier!

 

[Ruptga]

Probably not as dangerous as a black-out drunk? Yeah, I'd say not. I don't even know what "stoned out of one's mind" is supposed to mean here. Regardless of how much THC you ingest it will never have the devastating effect on central nervous system function that alcohol does. And it's not the black-out part of a drunk that is dangerous, unless you're sitting on a railroad track. Imagine what the guy who blacked out was like four drinks earlier!

I haven't been there myself, but a recurring thread is that getting too high can be really uncomfortable, mentally. Paranoia and almost (but not quite) psychedelic experiences are often mentioned. Unless someone does something really stupid in response to their paranoia it's not nearly as dangerous as getting completely hammered, but it's still not a good experience.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Here is a pic of Santa Cruz Girl Scout Cookies. Got it from South Bay collective in Torrance. Best example I've ever seen.

The spice must flow.

 

[Markbnj]

I haven't been there myself, but a recurring thread is that getting too high can be really uncomfortable, mentally. Paranoia and almost (but not quite) psychedelic experiences are often mentioned. Unless someone does something really stupid in response to their paranoia it's not nearly as dangerous as getting completely hammered, but it's still not a good experience.

That might be true. I can't confirm from any personal experience, and people may react in different ways. I just think the comparisons with alcohol are very strained. Uncomfortable, unpleasant, paranoid, whatever vs. actual loss of physical control, loss of memory, vomiting, dehydration. Comparing the effects of overindulgence in marijuana to the effects of overindulging in alcohol is like comparing a swifter duster to a mallet, imo.

 

[BUTCH1]

That might be true. I can't confirm from any personal experience, and people may react in different ways. I just think the comparisons with alcohol are very strained. Uncomfortable, unpleasant, paranoid, whatever vs. actual loss of physical control, loss of memory, vomiting, dehydration. Comparing the effects of overindulgence in marijuana to the effects of overindulging in alcohol is like comparing a swifter duster to a mallet, imo.

I would tend to agree with that but one thing's for sure, with today's high-THC content pot around no one has any business driving a car after smoking it, you could blow through a red light and never know it.

 

[zerocool84]

I haven't been there myself, but a recurring thread is that getting too high can be really uncomfortable, mentally. Paranoia and almost (but not quite) psychedelic experiences are often mentioned. Unless someone does something really stupid in response to their paranoia it's not nearly as dangerous as getting completely hammered, but it's still not a good experience.

You can die from too much alcohol, you can't die from smoking too much weed. You don't black out from smoking too much weed either. If you're going to choose, marijuana is the much better option obviously.

 

[Ruptga]

You can die from too much alcohol, you can't die from smoking too much weed. You don't black out from smoking too much weed either. If you're going to choose, marijuana is the much better option obviously.

Yes yes, but I see a lot of people selling it like there's absolutely nothing that can go wrong, and that's just not true. It all pales in comparison to blacking out, getting herpes, and driving through a parade of girl scouts, of course, but the easiest way to shoot something down is to just wait until the other side oversells their case and then hammer them on it. I don't want to see that happen.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I don't even know what "stoned out of one's mind" is supposed to mean here.

For me, imagine life being a movie at a very low frame rate, compounded by the fear that one needs to concentrate on totally autonomous functions, like breathing and heart rate, else they'll stop and I'll die. Also, in some circumstances, the inability to finish a sentence for forgetting how it began. All the while having the worst cotton mouth of your life. Never experienced anything psychedelic like hallucinations or seeing colors though.

Yeah, can be super uncomfortable for newbies who have no sense of dose or pace and go eat a complete pot brownie, or all the cookies in a container. And there is no way a person can drive responsibly like that.

With all things, experience teaches moderation. These are things that will sort themselves out as the market matures, I think, with greater variety of strengths and greater common knowledge of how such strengths/strains affect an individual.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Really?

People dont like the taste of single malt Whisky or Armagnac or Calvados they just drink it because?

If youre drinking just to get pissed rather than for the taste you are exactly the thing that I'm arguing against.

hard alcohol in general tastes disgusting and you have to be wanting to get drunk in the first place to even consider building up a tolerance to it to the point you are judging alcohol based on how it tastes.

Shit is still gonna be shit no matter how much you refine the taste

 

[Markbnj]

I would tend to agree with that but one thing's for sure, with today's high-THC content pot around no one has any business driving a car after smoking it, you could blow through a red light and never know it.

The data suggests that this doesn't happen with experienced smokers, but in any case I agree. It's a trickier thing than it seems, though. I might say that any substance classified as "mind altering" should be on the list of things you can't ingest before driving, but the truth is that would take in a lot of things like caffeine that don't effect judgement or reaction times. Furthermore, the tests for impairment would have to be tailored to each substance. The metrics for alcohol don't work at all for marijuana, and a rule based on blood stream or urine detection would be the equivalent of prohibition.

Self-driving cars will eventually make this issue go away, of course, as well as solving a whole host of other problems like congestion and accidents (the human error kind). You'll be able to blaze away with your pals, get dropped off in front of a club, and your car will go park itself in some reserved area until you need it again.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I would tend to agree with that but one thing's for sure, with today's high-THC content pot around no one has any business driving a car after smoking it, you could blow through a red light and never know it.

I've never been so high that I didn't realize I shouldn't drive.

It's hard to get where you're so stoned you can't drive, but you can still manage to get yourself to your car, get the car started and driving.

I would agree that this is 'more' true for experienced users, but for the most part cannabis is a funny drug in that you realize you are too stoned to drive before you decide to drive.

 

[mnewsham]

My latest bit of concentrate. Not the greatest, but it does the trick and at $40/g not bad.

 

[IronWing]

Should I start posting pics of every diet Pepsi I swill?

 

[manimal]

Should I start posting pics of every diet Pepsi I swill?

start a diet coke thread?





How do you consume that concentrate? real Q



What about oil as well. Other than eating it or putting it on food how can you consume it? Can you put it under your tongue like a alcoholic tincture or sprinkle it on top of a bowl? Havent smoked in years and years.

 

[mnewsham]

How do you consume that concentrate? real Q

You heat up a quartz or titanium nail or pad to a high temperature and then you "dab" your concentrate on to the nail. Oil, wax, shatter, budder, etc all are generally smoked the same way, though some may require different temperatures for proper vaporization.

Here is a webM file of me doing a dab on my RooR recycler.

http://webmup.com/09j19/

Should I start posting pics of every diet Pepsi I swill?

If it makes you happy im sure the nef thread would be a fine place for that.