Ruptga
Lifer
- Aug 3, 2006
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Nobody cares what you hate.
His caricature of a dangerously irrational and out-of-touch WASP is good for a chuckle every few weeks. That's about it though.
Nobody cares what you hate.
Here is what I understand from a significant amount of research:
For the longest time weed was a weed, just this plant that was grown out in the open that people knew got you high. Weed's brother hemp was the productive one that was refined into a useful product. Weed was kinda left alone. If people wanted a stronger smoke then they would make that weed into hash, a concentrated form, in a practice goes back over a millenia. The other option in say the 60's was to get weed from places that naturally has stronger plants growing there. Back then outdoor grown Thai sticks maybe dipped in a stronger drug were as good as you could do outside of hash.
Then sometime in the late-70's-early-80's a new market for high-end weed came around. Super rich customers were willing to be pot tourists in Amsterdam, or pay sky high prices for a better product in places like New York. Modern hydroponic growing techniques from plants like tomatoes were combined with advanced lighting to make indoor grow houses that could be somewhat shielded from authorities here in the states. Instead of having to sneak the weed type of the drug across the Mexican border, cartels could buy houses in metropolitan suburbs and let some stoner green thumb turn it into a cash cow. Hydroponic weed could fetch 8-20 times the prices the Mexican stuff could, and Amsterdam fed the American market a ton of differing strains of higher and higher potency to justify those prices. Eventually sometime in the early 00's a Canadian lack of enforcement allowed out northern border to flood that market, and soon the Mexican cartels moved onto harder drugs and more violence. From what I understand outdoor weed is still sold and grown, especially in states without a lot of population and possible illegal traffic lanes, but I don't see how a worse product could survive in such a competitive market even if it is an advanced strain.
From what I understand now the legal states (the ones with lax medical laws included) have become primary producers of drugs available in the non-legal states in their vicinity. I have also seen many articles about pot tourism from even Canadians, so it seems Colorado at least is getting the first mover benefit of being the release value for pot enthusiasm in America. Now that the barn door is open it is impossible to put the horses back in, and now the high end pot trade is moving to a new target of edibles and concentrated THC products. Reading this story from that perspective and it would seem that someone made a gamble that any old weed would be good enough and are dealing with the consequences when it turns out stoners have standards too. I don't see anything in the article that makes my inner Libertarian nervous that we will have to deal with a loss in momentum on this subject till at least 2017, and then only if a Republican is in the White House.
If anything the articles shows that effective markets can effect change anywhere, even in hippy stoner communities. Sorry communists.
Legalizing pot should never have been about making money. The biggest benefit of legalizing pot is keeping people out of jail for something as silly as smoking weed.
So much this.KB said:Legalizing pot should never have been about making money. The biggest benefit of legalizing pot is keeping people out of jail for something as silly as smoking weed.
/facepalm
Really? Everything somehow comes down to race huh?
Legalizing pot should never have been about making money. The biggest benefit of legalizing pot is keeping people out of jail for something as silly as smoking weed.
This forum would be much better if people stopped responding to FelixTheTroll.
What would we argue about then? He should be getting paid for his contributions to OT :^D
Legalizing pot has always been a terrible idea. All you need to enter the black market is dirt. Know where I can get any of that?
Legalizing pot should never have been about making money. The biggest benefit of legalizing pot is keeping people out of jail for something as silly as smoking weed.
What would we argue about then? He should be getting paid for his contributions to OT :^D
Thanks lxskllr. I was about to suggest the same thing. ^_^
The only time people call you a troll is when they become too flustered to argue otherwise. I was accurate and thoughtful which caused some potheads call me a troll.
This is unfortunate and unsettling.
Legalizing pot has always been a terrible idea. All you need to enter the black market is dirt. Know where I can get any of that?
Would weed grow like week if you planted it in your garden?
Let's not overstate the issue here - tax data up through Nov. (Dec data is not yet available) shows the state brought in $67M, the optimistic projections for first year revenue was $100M for the year. If Dec. performance is about average for the year, we'll see about 72% of that. This hardly seems like terrible failure.
Police don't want to investigate reports of people doing legal things? How terrible.
And it seems to be untrue, the Denver police unit tasked with controlling illegal weed growing/selling increased the amount seized this year by almost 10x, I can't imagine they did that by not investigating legitimate reports of illegal growing and selling. Of course the fact that part of the taxes generated by recreational sales are dedicated to funding police depts. to enforce the new laws might have something to do with that.
Legalizing pot should never have been about making money. The biggest benefit of legalizing pot is keeping people out of jail for something as silly as smoking weed.
I assume you mean "weak", and not "week", as weed generally takes 8-12 weeks to bud. Outdoors, it always buds in the fall. So yeah you can plant it in your garden and it will grow. As long as it doesn't snow where you live, you should be ok. Frost is OK.
When grown outdoors a good strain will lose some of its potency. You will never see >25% THC outdoors, the conditions just don't exist in nature to grow it like that. It will still retain the majority of it's potency as long as it was grown in good sun and was watered regularly and sprayed.
In Colorado I heard it's stronger here because of reduced oxygen from the high climate.