LeMond Accuses Landis Camp of Harassment

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LeMond Accuses Landis Camp of Harassment
By EDDIE PELLS, AP National Writer
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MALIBU, Calif. - Floyd Landis' sleepy, scientific arbitration hearing morphed into a pulp-fiction blockbuster Thursday, replete with revelations of sexual abuse, allegations of threatening phone calls and even a Donald Trump-style firing.

It came courtesy of Landis' fellow American Tour de France champion Greg LeMond, who disclosed he had been sexually abused as a child and received a call Wednesday from Landis' manager who threatened to reveal the secret if LeMond showed up to testify.

Shortly after LeMond dropped those bombshells, the manager, Will Geoghegan, walked up to LeMond, apologized and admitted he made the call, LeMond said. Which led to "You're fired" _ the message Landis attorney Maurice Suh gave to Geoghegan while they were still standing in the hearing room.

"It was a real threat, it was real creepy, and I think it shows the extent of who it is," LeMond said before leaving the Pepperdine law school after his spellbinding day. "I think there's another side of Floyd that the public hasn't seen."

Landis, ditching his yellow tie for a black one he wore to symbolize his feelings about LeMond, sat stoically as he watched the three-time champion wreck his day. Landis is not allowed to comment during the hearing.

Making it worse for last year's Tour de France champion was that the cross-examination of LeMond, designed to expose his motives and impeach his credibility, was called off because LeMond refused to answer questions about Lance Armstrong.

"I just have to say, again, this is completely unfair," Landis attorney Howard Jacobs said.

He wanted to ask LeMond about suggestions he has made in the past that Armstrong, a seven-time Tour de France winner, might have doped.

But LeMond didn't think that was the main point.

"I think they didn't want me coming here today," LeMond said. "I don't know why. If you didn't do anything wrong, why would you mind me coming here today?"

Before LeMond received the threatening call from Geoghegan, his testimony was supposed to be about conversations he had with Landis shortly after news of his positive "A" urine sample had been leaked to the press.

LeMond said he urged Landis to come clean if, in fact, his backup "B" sample also came back tainted.

He said he encouraged Landis to help his sport and "more importantly, help himself."

"At this point, he said, 'I don't see anything that ... what good would it do? If I did, it would destroy a lot of my friends and hurt a lot of people,'" LeMond testified.

He said he used the story of his being sexually abused when he was 6 as an example of how it's good to get things out in the open.

"It nearly destroyed me by keeping the secret," LeMond said.

He said he told Landis that very few people knew that about him, then revealed that someone in the Landis camp tried to use that information to intimidate him.

LeMond described receiving a call Wednesday evening from someone who claimed to be his uncle. He said he later traced the call to Geoghegan's cell phone.

"He said, 'I'll be there tomorrow and we can talk about how we used to' perform a sexual act, LeMond said of the phone call. "I thought this was intimidation to keep me from coming here."

He said he was so distraught by the call, he filed a police report, which was presented as evidence by attorneys. Malibu sheriff's officials, however, declined to release the report or details about it, saying the case was under investigation.

A message left on Geoghegan's cell phone by The Associated Press was not immediately returned.

Before lunch _ and LeMond _ things were going well for the Landis team during the cross-examination of Claire Frelat, a technician at the French lab who tested Landis' positive "B" sample from last year's Stage 17 for synthetic testosterone.

Frelat acknowledged she knew she was working on Landis' positive doping test, a big-time breach of confidentiality that's essential to the testing process. She said she knew because of media reports she had read of his positive "A" sample test.

The cross-examination was in line with the questions asked Wednesday of Frelat's workmate, Cynthia Mongongu, who tested Landis' positive "A" sample from Stage 17. Both women also participated in testing of the negative backup "B" samples that were done last month at the request of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. Four of those seven negative tests showed abnormal testosterone profiles.

The long, difficult testimony of the French-speaking witnesses was done through a translator. It was designed to show a pattern of incompetence at the French lab where the tests were done.

After LeMond, USADA called Christiane Ayotte, director of the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited lab in Montreal, to discuss testing standards in the process used on Landis' tests.

When her testimony began, however, it may as well have been a closed hearing. More than a dozen reporters and photographers were outside the hearing room with LeMond.

He insisted he appeared only to help cycling, a sport he thinks has been ruined by an unabated culture of doping.

His appearance at Pepperdine, however, made the sport look every bit the unseemly circus he's been trying to fix all these years. Still, he had no remorse.

"What I felt was right was to come here and tell the truth," he said as he walked to his car. "People say it's the message that hurts this sport, but it's not that. It's cheating that hurts this sport, and that's all I have to say."

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This is SUCH a bizarre story. I gotta say, much as I appreciate LeMond's accomplishments, I have resented his apparent desire to drag down every other successful American rider in recent years. That being said, it appears that Landis' manager probably DID make the harassing phone call, which was idiocy of the highest order.
 

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All that lead in his body must've went to his brain. LeMond has been a little nutty lately. But still, one of the greatest(!) American rider, ever.
 

Homerboy

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I thought he did admit to making the call to LeMond and he got fired on the spot in the court room.
Entire thing is a debacle. Landis needs to come clean, as do other riders (and athletes).
Takes a special person to live a life of a lie.
 

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Landis is as guilty as sin. Armstrong probably doped too, but who really knows. It is accepted in Europe, but I don't care for anyone who dopes.

What sucks is that they are trying to strike a deal with Landis to get him to testify against Armstong. This just sucks.
 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
This is SUCH a bizarre story. I gotta say, much as I appreciate LeMond's accomplishments, I have resented his apparent desire to drag down every other successful American rider in recent years. That being said, it appears that Landis' manager probably DID make the harassing phone call, which was idiocy of the highest order.

it looks more and more that Lemond is maybe the only one that won the TdF clean. I'm pretty sure that Landis is a cheater and I have very serious doubts about Lance.
 
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Landis is as guilty as sin. Armstrong probably doped too, but who really knows. It is accepted in Europe, but I don't care for anyone who dopes.

What sucks is that they are trying to strike a deal with Landis to get him to testify against Armstong. This just sucks.

I am actually less convinced of Landis' guilt than of Armstrong's. There are major inconsistencies in the forensic testing of Landis' sample, and using exogenous testosterone under the circumstances really doesn't make a lot of sense as a performance enhancer.
 
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: DonVito
This is SUCH a bizarre story. I gotta say, much as I appreciate LeMond's accomplishments, I have resented his apparent desire to drag down every other successful American rider in recent years. That being said, it appears that Landis' manager probably DID make the harassing phone call, which was idiocy of the highest order.

it looks more and more that Lemond is maybe the only one that won the TdF clean. I'm pretty sure that Landis is a cheater and I have very serious doubts about Lance.

I think the reality is that essentially all modern professional cyclists at the top (TdF) level use or have used performance enhancing drugs, and the efforts to clean the sport up over the past ten years haven't worked.
 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: DaShen
Landis is as guilty as sin. Armstrong probably doped too, but who really knows. It is accepted in Europe, but I don't care for anyone who dopes.

What sucks is that they are trying to strike a deal with Landis to get him to testify against Armstong. This just sucks.

I am actually less convinced of Landis' guilt than of Armstrong's. There are major inconsistencies in the forensic testing of Landis' sample, and using exogenous testosterone under the circumstances really doesn't make a lot of sense as a performance enhancer.

not true, the scientific community is divided on testosterone as a performance enhancer. If they are so convinced of Landis innocence, why is his manager harassing a witness? Eddy Merckx also refused to act as a witness for the Landis camp. Why are all these champs refusing DNA test to prove their innocence. I'm not talking about Landis only. I'm also talking about Basso, Ullrich, ...

If only 10% is true what Jeff D'hont revealed a couple weeks ago what happened at Team Telekom then you have to ask yourself the question, "has there been a clean TdF winner in the last 15 years", personally I seriously doubt it

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Originally posted by: freegeeks

not true, the scientific community is divided on testosterone as a performance enhancer. If they are so convinced of Landis innocence, why is his manager harassing a witness? Eddy Merckx also refused to act as a witness for the Landis camp. Why are all these champs refusing DNA test to prove their innocence. I'm not talking about Landis only. I'm also talking about Basso, Ullrich, ...

If only 10% is true what Jeff D'hont revealed a couple weeks ago what happened at Team Telekom then you have to ask yourself the question, "has there been a clean TdF winner in the last 15 years", personally I seriously doubt it

linky

You've introduced several new topics that really don't relate to Landis. As I said in my prior post, I do believe essentially all current elite professional cyclists are cheating, or have cheated, including Basso, Ullrich, Armstrong, etc. That being said, I am not sold on the testing performed on Landis' sample (the lab admits overwriting the data from the first run of his second sample, more than enough to get an acquittal in a criminal case in my experience), nor am I convinced that taking exogenous testosterone would account for Landis' stunning performance on the last racing day of the Tour. Dick Pound seems to me like a real creep with an agenda, and the present arbitration like a kangaroo court. Even if Landis is guilty (which is certainly possible), I am not convinced he is getting a fair trial.

As for LeMond, he has, IMO, demonstrated a real bitterness toward Lance Armstrong in the past (and arguably toward Landis at present), but that certainly doesn't excuse Geoghegan's bizarre behavior toward him, which more that justified his firing. That alone has nothing to do with Landis' guilt or innocence in my view. I have no idea why Merckx would refuse to testify for Landis (other than, perhaps, his close friendship with Lance Armstrong), but I also don't see what possible relevant testimony he could have injected (no pun intended!).
 
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