lenovo 22" 1920x1200 monitor $482

[hans007]

appaerntly best buy for business is selling this..

http://www.bestbuybusiness.com...e&productID=BB10823928

 

[cubeless]

seems like a pretty cool piece of kit...

lenovo 22 lcd

 

[hans007]

yeah $482 is a bit less than most high end 24" pmva screens cost. for 1920x1200 not to mention the finer dot pitch it is a pretty good deal.

i hope other manufacturers start using this panel, and we get an influx of $400 22" 1920x1200 screens.

 

[Odeen]

Originally posted by: hans007
yeah $482 is a bit less than most high end 24" pmva screens cost. for 1920x1200 not to mention the finer dot pitch it is a pretty good deal.

i hope other manufacturers start using this panel, and we get an influx of $400 22" 1920x1200 screens.

On a digital display "finer dot pitch" means just one thing - everything is smaller.

Good if you're eagle-eyed, I imagine, or have limited desk space, but aren't 24" P-MVA panels just a little more expensive than this and considerably easier on the eyes?

 

[asuka10456]

i don't see the point of this high res on such a small monitor

 

[pinktank]

I like my stuff small and crisp

 

[tbogstad]

Originally posted by: asuka10456
i don't see the point of this high res on such a small monitor

so i guess my 21" CRT which does 1920x1440@75 would be of no use to ya.

thats only 20" viewable, and i can watch full 1080P HD TV with my HDTV tuner card on it.

 

[Odeen]

Originally posted by: pinktank
I like my stuff small and crisp

"small dot pitch" = "crisp" is a holdover from CRT days.

On a fixed pixel display, anything that matches the display's native resolution looks crisp, regardless of the dot pitch. Standing close to a Jumbotron will make the edges of things on the screen look jagged, but they will still be crisp, NOT be blurry.

On CRT's, fine dot pitch meant a higher resolution was possible before things began getting blurry (i.e. you were pushing a higher resolution than you had pixels for). On fixed pixel displays, where every pixel is precisely addressable (LCD, Plasma, OLED), the situation is much simpler - if image pixels match display pixels, image is perfectly crisp. Else it's blurry to some degree or another.

P.S. - even if you really do prefer your text small, you're better off with a larger monitor that's placed as far away from you as possible. Larger monitor, given the same resolution, means the inter-pixel spaces are reduced compared to size of the pixels. Secondly, your eyes have an easier time focusing on objects farther away from you than nearby.

If you have a 22" monitor 4 feet away from you, you'd actually have a better experience with, say, a 26" monitor that's 4 feet 12 inches away from you. Same image size, but less screen door effect and your eyes have an easier time focusing.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Odeen

Originally posted by: pinktank
I like my stuff small and crisp

"small dot pitch" = "crisp" is a holdover from CRT days.

On a fixed pixel display, anything that matches the display's native resolution looks crisp, regardless of the dot pitch. Standing close to a Jumbotron will make the edges of things on the screen look jagged, but they will still be crisp, NOT be blurry.

On CRT's, fine dot pitch meant a higher resolution was possible before things began getting blurry (i.e. you were pushing a higher resolution than you had pixels for). On fixed pixel displays, where every pixel is precisely addressable (LCD, Plasma, OLED), the situation is much simpler - if image pixels match display pixels, image is perfectly crisp. Else it's blurry to some degree or another.

P.S. - even if you really do prefer your text small, you're better off with a larger monitor that's placed as far away from you as possible. Larger monitor, given the same resolution, means the inter-pixel spaces are reduced compared to size of the pixels. Secondly, your eyes have an easier time focusing on objects farther away from you than nearby.

If you have a 22" monitor 4 feet away from you, you'd actually have a better experience with, say, a 26" monitor that's 4 feet 12 inches away from you. Same image size, but less screen door effect and your eyes have an easier time focusing.

yeah but .. uh most people dont use their monitors from 4 feet away.

i mean i'd rather have a 1680x1050 20" than a 1680x1050 22" , if i'm 2 feet away and typing on it because it looks sharper. not to mention this monitor is maybe $100 less than a comparable 24". i'd say its a decent deal, but im really looking forward to other brands using this panel (obviously lenovo doesnt make panels)

 

[Fraggable]

Well I use a 17" Inspiron 1720 with a 1920 X 1200 screen and love it. Things are tiny but I need to get as much as possible on the screen, since running a Server 2003 virtual server and several Win XP Pro/Vista virtual systems is necessary sometimes. My eyes are nearly 20/20 and it's never been a problem, but if you're only a couple feet away it shouldn't be a problem for this 22" with the same res.

 

[nefariouscaine]

I think I'd have been interested in this prior to getting my 24" - I wasn't "unhappy" with the 22" I was on before but it had banding issues & poor color reproduction - I went back to using my 21" CRT again during that time. I want to find out how this does with gaming & colors myself. I have good eyes and would like to get rid of the mildly annoying dot pitch on this 24".

thanks for the 411 OP - I'll be lurking the internet for more info on this monitor

 

[hans007]

apparently its been out in europe for about a month or so, so there were a few mini reviews online i saw saying it was pretty good and had almost 0 backlight problems. i guess its pretty high end quality and the viewing angles were supposedly top notch.

 

[imported_expert01]

Puh-lease. Spend the extra $17 and get the HP w2408 from Office Depot. Not sure if it's just my region (colorado and surrounding states) carrying it, but it's currently $499 (that's at least $30 less than you can get online, unless you get a refurb). Most stores should have them in stock. I've seen this side by side with a 24" Acer that does 1920x1200, and the HP blows everything else out of the water.

Native Resolution (pixels) 1920x1200
Response Type 5ms (on-off)
Rated Contrast Ratio 1000:1
Maximum Brightness (cd/m2) 400
PC Inputs 1 DVI, 1 VGA
Video Inputs none
TV tuner? No
HDCP Yes (HDMI)
USB Ports Yes (4)
Picture-in-Picture No
Speakers Yes
Tilt / Swivel / Height adjustable Yes / No / Yes
Pivot Yes
Weight 26.5 lbs
Dimensions (with base) 19.7" x 23.1" x 11.4"

(from http://www.extremetech.com/art...0,1697,2189326,00.asp)

BTW, it has an automatic dimmer built in (adjusts brightness and contrast depending on room light level). Screen also moves up and down, in addition to tilting and rotating. Has the HP high gloss (from what I can remember, zero screen door), and puts out the most vibrant color I've seen on a PC monitor (without any bleeding). Despite the poor review (might look at PCMag's closing thoughts, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2202853,00.asp), it's definitely the best monitor that I've seen (period).

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: pinktank
I like my stuff small and crisp

You can have a 24" 10% further, which is easier on your eyes...

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: expert01
Puh-lease. Spend the extra $17 and get the HP w2408 from Office Depot. Not sure if it's just my region (colorado and surrounding states) carrying it, but it's currently $499 (that's at least $30 less than you can get online, unless you get a refurb). Most stores should have them in stock. I've seen this side by side with a 24" Acer that does 1920x1200, and the HP blows everything else out of the water.

Native Resolution (pixels) 1920x1200
Response Type 5ms (on-off)
Rated Contrast Ratio 1000:1
Maximum Brightness (cd/m2) 400
PC Inputs 1 DVI, 1 VGA
Video Inputs none
TV tuner? No
HDCP Yes (HDMI)
USB Ports Yes (4)
Picture-in-Picture No
Speakers Yes
Tilt / Swivel / Height adjustable Yes / No / Yes
Pivot Yes
Weight 26.5 lbs
Dimensions (with base) 19.7" x 23.1" x 11.4"

(from http://www.extremetech.com/art...0,1697,2189326,00.asp)

BTW, it has an automatic dimmer built in (adjusts brightness and contrast depending on room light level). Screen also moves up and down, in addition to tilting and rotating. Has the HP high gloss (from what I can remember, zero screen door), and puts out the most vibrant color I've seen on a PC monitor (without any bleeding). Despite the poor review (might look at PCMag's closing thoughts, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2202853,00.asp), it's definitely the best monitor that I've seen (period).

the HP is a TN panel.

its is pretty overpriced for what it is. the only real good thing about it is its got a glossy panel, but there is an acer for $389 on newegg that is TN with glossy as well

 

[dehemke]

My old P4 XPS is 1920x1200 on a 15.4" screen.

That is the only reason the new XPS M1330 hasn't completely forced the old guy out. I'll take the higher resolution at any screen size.

 

[kmmatney]

Good for those who like small pixels. I don't know why you'd get this over a 24" LCD, personally, though. Movies and games are better on a 24" display versus a 22" display, even though I've found that smaller pixels "scale" a little better when running at non-native resolutions.

Of course I might be biased - I use a 28" 1920 x 1200 display at work. My productivity has gone up since using the new larger monitor. Nice large text is awesome for programming work.

My Laptop is 17" at 1920 x 1200, but I rarely run it at full resolution, only when I need the extra real estate.

 

[Treyshadow]

Really? I mean I guess some of us are just the opposite.

I prefer the tighter dot pitch. I know the 24 is a great panel, and I do like its size, but the resolution at the smaller screen size means my "eagle eyes" aren't detecting as many flaws in the video.

I prefer the tighter dot pitch. I prefer matte to gloss monitors. Its just me, but everything here is always IMHO.

 

[kmmatney]

I know what you mean by "fine pitch", but its really not good for most people. A coworker of mine was having terrible back problems. He went to several doctors, brought in a special chair to work, etc... Then he finally started using a larger monitor and his back trouble went away.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: kmmatney
I know what you mean by "fine pitch", but its really not good for most people. A coworker of mine was having terrible back problems. He went to several doctors, brought in a special chair to work, etc... Then he finally started using a larger monitor and his back trouble went away.

i think your coworker just probably needed a stand to put his monitor on.

i mean, completely off topic really, but the new one probably just had a higher stand. usually monitor stands are terrible, and are not quite to eye level so a monitor arm, or putting his monitor on a box or something probably could have done the trick.