Lenovo released a Cannon Lake laptop

[dark zero]

Intel actually showed the first working 10nm laptop a very long time ago, January 2017 at CES.

So, where did it went wrong?

 

[LTC8K6]

So, where did it went wrong?

Maybe the yield back then was one...

 

[Dayman1225]

Lenovo 81EY ideapad 330-15ICN with the i3 8121U on Sisoftware

Paul Alcorn from TomsHardware claims to have gotten a laptop with the 8121U

Looking forward to see some testing.

 

[Dayman1225]

Intel has officially listed the 8121U on ARK

2.2GHz base and 3.2GHz boost. LPDDR4/X support. No AVX512 listed and no IGPU like suspected.

 

[LTC8K6]

Intel has officially listed the 8121U on ARK

2.2GHz base and 3.2GHz boost. LPDDR4/X support. No AVX512 listed and no IGPU like suspected.

ARK isn't always accurate, though.

Good to see Cannon Lake finally show up.

 

[Dayman1225]

ARK isn't always accurate, though.

Good to see Cannon Lake finally show up.

Yeah. Even if it is pretty terrible I am glad to see something 10nm shipping albeit in low quantity

RIP CNL-Y tho.

 

[jpiniero]

Note that the package size is bigger and they also increased the Tjunction.

Also it has 16 PCIe lanes available to it.

 

[Eug]

Intel has officially listed the 8121U on ARK

2.2GHz base and 3.2GHz boost. LPDDR4/X support. No AVX512 listed and no IGPU like suspected.

I guess that explains why it performs just like a 4.5 W Kaby Lake Y Core i5-7Y54 chip in some benchmarks.

https://ark.intel.com/products/95452/Intel-Core-i5-7Y54-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz

2 cores, 4 threads, 1.2 GHz base, 3.2 GHz boost.

Yeah. Even if it is pretty terrible I am glad to see something 10nm shipping albeit in low quantity

RIP CNL-Y tho.

** Hugs my KBL-Y Core m3-7Y32 **

 

[ksec]

Hopefully these count as the launch of Cannonlake, and we actually get Icelake in 2019 as originally intended.

 

[LTC8K6]

Hopefully these count as the launch of Cannonlake, and we actually get Icelake in 2019 as originally intended.

Well, it's Cannon Lake, and it's launched...

Seems like it's earlier than we were told?

 

[LTC8K6]

Looks like 8121U also supports the .6V LPDDR4X, which is pretty new.

 

[jpiniero]

Hopefully these count as the launch of Cannonlake, and we actually get Icelake in 2019 as originally intended.

It completely depends on how long it takes for yields to improve. But it might make sense to do another product like the 8121U but Icelake just to be on 10+.

I will say that Icelake in volume looks extremely unlikely now, unless something radically changes. By the time they fix it Tigerlake should be ready.

 

[LTC8K6]

Do we know if 8121u is 10 or 10+ ?

 

[Dayman1225]

Do we know if 8121u is 10 or 10+ ?

Its 10nm

 

[LTC8K6]

Its 10nm

How do we know that, though?

Intel just says Kaby Lake is 14nm.

I guess this does mean that despite all the problems and delays, Intel is first to the new 10/7nm node.

EDIT, I should say was, not is.

 

[Eug]

How do we know that, though?

Intel just says Kaby Lake is 14nm.

I guess this does mean that despite all the problems and delays, Intel is first to the new 10/7nm node.

EDIT, I should say was, not is.

But they likely won't be the first to do it in volume, if the rumours are true. TSMC is still on track to volume 7 nm in fall 2018.

 

[LTC8K6]

But they likely won't be the first to do it in volume, if the rumours are true. TSMC is still on track to volume 7 nm in fall 2018.

Well, I didn't expect 10nm Intel laptops this early in 2018.

 

[jpiniero]

TSMC's 7 nm is already in volume production. This is obviously not volume production.

 

[Eug]

TSMC's 7 nm is already in volume production. This is obviously not volume production.

Yeah I should have said I was expecting volume 7 nm products out to end users in fall 2018.

Well, I didn't expect 10nm Intel laptops this early in 2018.

This was AnandTech's article from three months ago:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12436/intel-10nm-dualcore-cannon-lake

The first version of the document, as it appears, suggests that Intel has shipped Cannon Lake-U CPUs in 2+2 and 2+0 configurations to undisclosed customers. The “2+2” denotes that a chip has two processing cores (the first number) as well as GT2-class graphics (the second number), whereas the “2+0” indicates that a dual-core chip has no iGPU at all. Intel’s “U” series parts, aimed at the 15W notebook market, usually feature an integrated chipset in the CPU package. Therefore, the CNL-U 2+2 and CNL-U 2+0 parts are aimed primarily at mobile and low-power applications.

It is noteworthy that in the recent years Intel has begun commercial roll-outs of its new CPUs starting with ultra-low-power 4.5W Y-series processors, e.g., Broadwell-Y in 2014, Skylake-Y in 2015, and Kaby Lake-Y in 2016. If Intel is launching its U-series chips with a TDP of 15 W first for 10nm, this would indicate a change in policy. So it is surprising to see that Intel has started shipments of Cannon Lake-U, but not Cannon Lake-Y.

A natural question that arises because of the listing is whether Intel has started to ship its CNL-U parts in mass quantities to PC makers. Intel has not disclosed where these parts have been sold, which could be for entry-level low-power laptops, or to certain specific customers and requests with custom/semi-custom CNL products. While a CNL-U 2+2 CPU could be used for inexpensive notebooks, a CNL 2+0 part would fit into applications that either do not require a display controller at all (such as routers, NAS, DAS, etc.), or can use a discrete GPU (a low-end PC with a low-end/outdated dGPU - there are a lot of such machines sold in developing countries, a system for software/hardware development/compatibility tests/etc.). Unfortunately, at this point it is completely unclear where Intel has shipped these 10nm parts.

 

[jpiniero]

I think the presence of the 8130U pretty much ensures that the 2+2 isn't coming any time soon.

 

[ZippZ]

I wonder if this is a 4 core chip with 2 disabled.

 

[SPBHM]

I wonder if the IGP is a new gen with major changes and that's why is not enabled it, or if it's just the process being bad and too many having defective IGPs...

 

[ksec]

Its 10nm

Actually I would argue it is 10nm - ..... i.e not even up to the original 10nm estimated performance and power yet.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Serious question, what products outside of games do you use that might actually come close to utilizing 4 cores?

Most software does. Unless you're a content creator almost everyone is exclusively using a browser. Chrome is the #1 browser and it saturates 8 threads easy. Clock an 8 core to it's lowest and check CPU utilization. I did that with my FX-8350 (locked at 1.4Ghz) to see what software I work with is truly multicore. Most everything is, including office. Even ATOM is fully multithreaded. At full clocks things don't register much of a blip but that's because all cores are tapped for a short moment but those extra cores make a world of difference in responsiveness.

It's not even how many cores does one app use, but can your CPU handle multiple apps at a time? Those who stream content with a regular quad i5 typically use their old build as a capture card for their feed. Buy an 8 core CPU and you don't need that extra computer at all.

 

[Dayman1225]

Looks like it does support AVX512

https://twitter.com/InstLatX64/status/996711279019601920?s=19

And it looks like CNL Y STILL exists

https://twitter.com/TUM_APISAK/status/996706570552524800?s=19