Leonard Cohen dies.....

FireJack

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Announced on his facebook page 35 minutes ago.

I knew he wasn't in great health but he wasn't all that old. Always sad to lose someone like that.
 

Commodus

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He was 82 -- I'd say he lived a long, vital life. I'm glad that he was releasing albums right up until weeks before he died. You Want It Darker is both a great album and a fitting way of settling his affairs.
 

Eug

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Sad to see him go, but I never understood the love for his music.
 

Commodus

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Sad to see him go, but I never understood the love for his music.

A few things.

First: he really was a poet who happened to sing, rather than a classic musician. The sheer amount of thematic structure that went into his songs was impressive. Many of them were about the juxtaposition of the holy and the profane ("Hallelujah" is the classic example, but it's everywhere). That and there were often highly biographical elements that make them intriguing, like "Chelsea Hotel No. 2" (Janis Joplin), "Suzanne" (a real person, remember!) or "To A Teacher" (a tribute to the Jewish poet AM Klein).

That and there's a lot of criticism, snark and wit to his lyrics, even if you're not diving particularly deep. There's a dry sense of humour that goes through many of his tunes. So, even if you find the compositions themselves "safe," the lyrics are often biting.

And let's face it, Cohen managed to exude a sense of cool right up until the end. How many musicians can say they remained popular and creative for that long? He influenced legions of artists.
 

Eug

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A few things.

First: he really was a poet who happened to sing, rather than a classic musician. The sheer amount of thematic structure that went into his songs was impressive. Many of them were about the juxtaposition of the holy and the profane ("Hallelujah" is the classic example, but it's everywhere). That and there were often highly biographical elements that make them intriguing, like "Chelsea Hotel No. 2" (Janis Joplin), "Suzanne" (a real person, remember!) or "To A Teacher" (a tribute to the Jewish poet AM Klein).

That and there's a lot of criticism, snark and wit to his lyrics, even if you're not diving particularly deep. There's a dry sense of humour that goes through many of his tunes. So, even if you find the compositions themselves "safe," the lyrics are often biting.

And let's face it, Cohen managed to exude a sense of cool right up until the end. How many musicians can say they remained popular and creative for that long? He influenced legions of artists.
Well, to each his own I guess.
 

Thump553

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Damn. His last three albums or so have been awesome and he was on a creative rise. Surprising because he previously retired and was studying Buddhism until he discovered all his money was gone due to a thieving manager. Far too many of our elder musicians are either coasting or worse still, releasing total crap in the last decade or so ala Dylan and Neil Young.
 

Perknose

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A few things.

First: he really was a poet who happened to sing, rather than a classic musician. The sheer amount of thematic structure that went into his songs was impressive. Many of them were about the juxtaposition of the holy and the profane ("Hallelujah" is the classic example, but it's everywhere). That and there were often highly biographical elements that make them intriguing, like "Chelsea Hotel No. 2" (Janis Joplin), "Suzanne" (a real person, remember!) or "To A Teacher" (a tribute to the Jewish poet AM Klein).

That and there's a lot of criticism, snark and wit to his lyrics, even if you're not diving particularly deep. There's a dry sense of humour that goes through many of his tunes. So, even if you find the compositions themselves "safe," the lyrics are often biting.

And let's face it, Cohen managed to exude a sense of cool right up until the end. How many musicians can say they remained popular and creative for that long? He influenced legions of artists.

Very well said!

Cliffs: The man could write.

He was a powerful poet, deep and ever reflective, who also had the genuine cool of being a true iconoclast. Integrity, he had it . . . both artistically and personally. He copied no one, he was his own man, his vision was as moving as it was unique. Leonard Cohen left us a body of work that will live on far past the time when most current popular "artists" have been consigned to the dust bin of the faded and forgotten.

Leonard Cohen was my idea of a MAN.
 

nakedfrog

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Very well said!

Cliffs: The man could write.

He was a powerful poet, deep and ever reflective, who also had the genuine cool of being a true iconoclast. Integrity, he had it . . . both artistically and personally. He copied no one, he was his own man, his vision was as moving as it was unique. Leonard Cohen left us a body of work that will live on far past the time when most current popular "artists" have been consigned to the dust bin of the faded and forgotten.

Leonard Cohen was my idea of a MAN.
Nobody could say it better than he said it himself, I think.
Now I bid you farewell, I don't know when I'll be back
They're moving us tomorrow to that tower down the track
But you'll be hearing from me baby, long after I'm gone
I'll be speaking to you sweetly from a window in the Tower of Song
 

Thebobo

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Interesting man, was never in search of fame it seems just played the music he liked and was good at and didn't care what was popular.

RIP
 

Perknose

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RIP.

Great article from only a few weeks ago. Very much worth a read for those that never "got" him.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/17/leonard-cohen-makes-it-darker

Great article, thanks, zin! I had seen it when it came out but hadn't gotten around to reading it, so, again, thanks.

This one part made me laugh:

Cohen greeted us. [...] He extended a hand like a courtly retired capo. “Hello, friends,” he said. “Please, please, sit right there.” The depth of his voice makes Tom Waits sound like Eddie Kendricks.

I know I liked your post, I couldn't help myself. But please don't cut me . . . I'm a bleeder!
 
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