less-than-legal stuff: crappy special gift or as good as anything else?

Lord Evermore

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Dunno if this counts as "discussing" pirating stuff. I just want to see whether I'm the only person who has this opinion in my "peer group".

As a Christmas gift, or birthday gift or something special like that, is it a really crappy gift to give pirated items that the receiver is known to want or has been trying to get on his/her own, or is it just as good as buying something legal?

Example: Christmas gift, buying CD burned copies of an anime series set from an auction site, which the receiver has been trying to locate to download him/herself for some time, where neither party can afford to buy the sets themselves.

Example: anniversary gift, downloading an entire collector set of a particular artist for someone who would wasn't particularly trying to get the MP3 versions, but would have liked to get the set if he/she could afford it, burning the songs to CD, printing out a nice image on photo paper and sealing it to a flip-out disc case with the CD's in it and making customized labels for the CD's.

I am of the opinion that it's less than thoughtful and heartfelt, for a special type of gift, even if it's something the receiver really wanted. I don't consider the effort putting into making the pirated music set into something more than some MP3 files turning it into a special item, it's still just something that was set to download and then walked away from until done, and paying for known thieved items just to save the effort of downloading them is just as bad.

I'm not saying however that a "legal" item needs to be as expensive as the pirated item would be if it were legal. I'd consider an inexpensive but well thought-out gift to be more appropriate than a pirated copy of something that would have been expensive. I'm also not saying it'd be horribly and thoughtless to give something like this just as a random "here, I got you something on this non-special day that I know you've been trying to get", I'm just talking about special occasion gifts, those important times.
 

StageLeft

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If somebody wants the new van halen and you burn them one based on songs you got from Kazaa, yeah that's pretty crappy!
 
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I agreed. For special occasions, a stack of burned discs is downright lame.

Feel free to add them to a real gift, but the focus had better not revolve around the "l33t l33t w4r3z0r!"

- M4H
 

TwinkleToes77

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
If somebody wants the new van halen and you burn them one based on songs you got from Kazaa, yeah that's pretty crappy!

They arent asking for a new van halen though, they are looking for a series that they grew up watching as a child 20+ years ago. And just so happened to find them on ebay as a copy.
 
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I am not married, but something tells me based on my many years of dating that this would NOT go over well as an anniversary present.
 

DaveSimmons

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craptastic. "ooo look 128kbps audio burned onto a hand-lettered CD with fuzzy inkjet printed CD insert that's missing the lyrics! It's so much nicer than the real CD!"
 

PsychoAndy

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Sorry Evermore. Burned software sucks as gifts.

My moron friend insisted on giving PS 6 (or was it 7) to someone for a birthday.

-PAB
 

TwinkleToes77

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Ill have ya know.. the xmas gift... is about me!.. My fiance has for as long as i've known him.. trying to collect a certain cartoon he grew up watching. As of right now, he hasnt been successful because the 3rd and final season was never aired in north america.. I have come across the 3rd season as copies. Knowing he would be estatic about it (hes never seen this season at all) I purchased it at a very low price. $12.. i do not feel this is a crappy thoughtless gift.. I feel this is a heartfelt gift knowing he wants this as badly as he does.
 

DaveSimmons

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craptastic II : "ooo I'm a really big Aimee Mann fan, thanks for stealing from her to make me a Christmas gift!"
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Ill have ya know.. the xmas gift... is about me!.. My fiance has for as long as i've known him.. trying to collect a certain cartoon he grew up watching. As of right now, he hasnt been successful because the 3rd and final season was never aired in north america.. I have come across the 3rd season as copies. Knowing he would be estatic about it (hes never seen this season at all) I purchased it at a very low price. $12.. i do not feel this is a crappy thoughtless gift.. I feel this is a heartfelt gift knowing he wants this as badly as he does.
That's a special case where it might be OK, but in general burned infringery is a lame gift.

 

TwinkleToes77

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Ill have ya know.. the xmas gift... is about me!.. My fiance has for as long as i've known him.. trying to collect a certain cartoon he grew up watching. As of right now, he hasnt been successful because the 3rd and final season was never aired in north america.. I have come across the 3rd season as copies. Knowing he would be estatic about it (hes never seen this season at all) I purchased it at a very low price. $12.. i do not feel this is a crappy thoughtless gift.. I feel this is a heartfelt gift knowing he wants this as badly as he does.
That's a special case where it might be OK, but in general burned infringery is a lame gift.

I generally dont give these type of gifts.. this is just something hes been very very interested in for as i said.. as long as ive known him (5+ years)
 

Lord Evermore

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PsychoAndy: dunno why you said sorry to me. I didn't receive anything like this. It was my ex-roommate that gave his girlfriend of like 5 years a Pink Floyd collector set on burned discs. He spent days working on getting the songs on the discs in the right order and printing out labels and a picture for the front of the case. Apparently she was happy with it, but none of the rest of us could stand her or respect anything she thought anyway, and they both can't actually stand being together (yet neither will admit it, and she's mostly just using him).

And of course we know who the other was about now. I was trying NOT to mention names as I just wanted it to be a hypothetical situation.
 

TwinkleToes77

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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
PsychoAndy: dunno why you said sorry to me. I didn't receive anything like this. It was my ex-roommate that gave his girlfriend of like 5 years a Pink Floyd collector set on burned discs. He spent days working on getting the songs on the discs in the right order and printing out labels and a picture for the front of the case. Apparently she was happy with it, but none of the rest of us could stand her or respect anything she thought anyway, and they both can't actually stand being together (yet neither will admit it, and she's mostly just using him).

And of course we know who the other was about now. I was trying NOT to mention names as I just wanted it to be a hypothetical situation.

It would only be hypothetical if you didnt gloat how everyone was siding with you. Especially since you didnt explain the circumstances behind my "gift"
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
Sorry Evermore. Burned software sucks as gifts.

My moron friend insisted on giving PS 6 (or was it 7) to someone for a birthday.

-PAB

See, I'd think Photoshop would be a cool gift. Only if it came in the box from adobe w/ the manuals and everything, though.

Giving someone copied CDs for a gift is probably one of the worst gifts you can give.
 

Lord Evermore

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I wasn't the one that came into the thread and removed the hypothetical nature of it. As for gloating, you seemed pretty sure that you were right no matter what I said, why should it matter if I'm pleased that I'm not the only person that feels this way? And as I explained elsewhere, the "special" situation didn't make a difference to me, and my question and the poll were phrased as I intended them to be. I wanted an answer to the question in a general situation.
 

frizzlefry

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LMAO!!!

omg... you two heheheh

Ok... in tinkleontoes case, that's fine. It's a thoughtful gift as you haven't been able to locate it any other way... AND... you bought it.

for simply burning music/videos/etc onto a CD (that cost $0.25) and the time spent, well in most instances that would not be the best gift to give... unless... it was meaningful in some way. For example, a mixed CD w/ a bunch of sentimental songs for a loved one. It's not like you can find a perfect compilation with all those songs, so making a CD, w/ a nice CD label, etc would be an awesome gift.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
I am not married, but something tells me based on my many years of dating that this would NOT go over well as an anniversary present.

Bwuahahah! Boy, you ain't kiddin'!

Her: Oh!!! I wonder what it is...*tears off paper* Um, it's a bunch of DVD-Rs?
You: Honey, I borrowed the "24, first season" DVD set from a buddy and made copies! Don't'cha luv it?
Her: *kicks you in nuts* Get the hell out, never come back and I'm going to burn your car!!!!
 

erikistired

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eh, you totally took this out of context. it's not like she can go to best buy and get the thing. if it was a copy of the andrew wk cd, that would be lame. if it was a copy of the brotherhood of the wolf dvd, again, lame. but considering there is no source for this (perhaps importing, but that might not even be an option) it's not lame to get something special for someone that you know they desire. it's very thoughtful for her to go out of her way looking for it.

just my .02...

~erik
 

eakers

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i made a cd for my friend for her bday, it was like a collection of special songs between the two of us.

it was either that or just a card cuz i was broke.

 

BatmanNate

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If there was actually hard work and sentiment behind the gift, I would not be offended to receive it. Although if it was just a last minute afterthought type of deal, then I wouldn't be too thrilled. Depends on the situation.
 
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