Let Gore Have it

[64bitloopy]

He isn't going to give up til he gets it and all the stooges are lining up on his side.
It's time just to let him have it, and have to deal with public opinion and congress/senate for the next two years.

If Bush were smart he'd make a concession speech, citing that he has decided to call it quits because the whole election is a mockery and he is ashamed to be part of it, and he hopes the US enjoys another 4 years of clintonesque lawlessness.

 

[StageLeft]

You're kidding right? Just because the election process is a bum-rush doesn't mean that bush should give up - and BTW I prefer Gore - er, did anyway, but Bush shouldn't give up; I don't see him giving up though he seems a stubborn bastard.

 

[CinderElmo]

I agree that if Bush conceeded it would make him look like the ultimate sportsman bowing out of a crooked election...thus making Gore look like a real tool - and illigitimizing his 4 years in office. Unfortunately, this isn't some backyard BBQ croquet game...there has been so much money and political capital invested that this election will not be over until the last appeal and the last of the litigation is complete.

Both are so close to the oval office that there is no way either are ever going to concede in a sportsman's manner. Anyway, Bush is leading...so it is all moot until Gore can conjur up enough votes to make it an issue. (give it a few days)

 

[chess9]

Yes, the guy who concedes gets the moral high ground and the thanks of 70% of the American people, who are fed up with this nightmare.

 

[DefRef]

If Bush were to concede, it would only encourage future candidates in close elections to rush to court to drag it out until the "good sport" quits.

Here's a interesting column by a LIBERAL decrying what Gore's vote-rigging jihad portends for the future: Send in the Thugs

 

[bozack]

that article was awesome

 

[Chef0083]

<< &quot;Yes . . . tens of millions of good people in Middle America voted Republican. But if you look closely at that map [showing states won by George W. Bush in red] you see a more complex picture. You see the state where James Byrd was lynched--dragged behind a pickup truck until his body came apart--it's red. You see the state where Matthew Shepard was crucified on a split-rail fence for the crime of being gay--it's red. You see the state where right-wing extremists blew up a federal office building and murdered scores of federal employees--it's red. The state where an Army private who was thought to be gay was bludgeoned to death with a baseball bat, and the state where neo-Nazi skinheads murdered two African Americans because of their skin color, and the state where Bob Jones University spews its anti-Catholic bigotry: they're all red too.&quot; >>



Jeez What a hack! I swear! This type of thing pisses me off to no end. You may as well say if a white man kills a black man then all white people are to blame! Or if a a hetrosexual beats up a homosexual all hetrosexuals are to blame. You know when that christian preacher killed an abortion doctor it was ALL the christian's fault! Or when a Muslim terrorist blows up a bus it's Muhamid himself's fault. :|

 

[Jumpem]

This is pissing me off! F*ck Algore!

 

[fdiskboy]

Paul Begala, what a choad.

 

[DefRef]

Paul Begala is on the front line of the liberals attack forces and he's typical of the media's bias against anyone who isn't a far-Left statist. He and the media promulgate the image that anyone who isn't a Democrat, is a Nazi. (Something I've seen some people here try to do.) Anyone remember when Gore referred to Republicans as the &quot;extra chromosome party&quot; which got him in trouble with parents of Downs Syndrome children.

Can you imagine the howls if someone like Rush Limbaugh pointed out that Gore carried New York City where a gang of [not described because it would be racist to] beat a Jewish man to death and attacked an Italian for &quot;looking Jewish&quot;? How about if someone mentioned that Gore carried Los Angeles, where rioting members of a designated &quot;oppressed minority&quot; burned down Korean-owned stores and attacked designated &quot;oppressive racists&quot;, dragging them from their cars to stomp them and smash their heads in with bricks.

Democrats are the party of free-speech and tolerance?

 

[Double Trouble]

Bush should NOT concede, no matter what the crooks try to do. There are still some good people left, and they are willing to fight against this sham Gore's trying to pull.

Giving up to that crook now would mean that in every election from here on, we'd have to endure lingering court battles, mud slinging, legions of lawyers swooping in like buzards to a carcass, crooked judges trying to help 'their' man in the name of 'the people' etc etc. We'd never see another legitimate election...... Nope, no way, don't give up, that's not the spirit the country was founded on.

 

[DefRef]

This just gets better and better...</sarcasm>

MS-NBC is reporting:

The dispute over Florida?s presidential race continued to take unexpected twists Wednesday as election officials in Miami-Dade County announced they would only count about 10,750 ?undervote? ballots ? those in which no vote for president was recorded ? in order to meet a deadline for completion of hand recounts set by the Florida Supreme Court. Meanwhile, Republican George W. Bush?s campaign was considering ?extraordinary? measures to combat the state Supreme Court decision that kept Demoncrat (NOTE: This is a straight C&amp;P from the story linked above. Freudian typo?) Al Gore?s presidential hopes alive by permitting recounted ballots to be added to the state?s election results.

TRANSLATION: We don't have time to count every vote, so we're going to cut to the chase and count the ones we need to &quot;interpret&quot; to find the necessary votes needed to make Gore the &quot;winner&quot;. (nudge wink say no more)

 

[bigbootydaddy]

tired of hearing about how gore is the devil himself, hope he wins so i can say:

[nelson muntz]
ha ha
[/nelson muntz]

and if he doesnt, boohoo, make your own life, government stops at my front door

 

[Double Trouble]

Gore is not 'the devil himself', he is simply a hypocritical pathological liar, bent on keeping his career as a politician alive for another 4 years (seeing as the people in his home state don't even want him).

 

[BoberFett]

<< government stops at my front door >>

If only that were true...

 

[ride525]

<< TRANSLATION: We don't have time to count every vote, so we're going to cut to the chase and count the ones we need to &quot;interpret&quot; to find the necessary votes needed to make Gore the &quot;winner&quot;. (nudge wink say no more) >>



TRANSLATION: Let's take a look at the area of votes where there may be the most problem votes. When time is of the essence, why waste a lot of time looking at EVERY ballot?

Whoever has the most votes should win. Whether they were machine read or hand read. I'm ready to support the person with the most votes, whether it is Bush or Gore. Are you?

 

[Double Trouble]

Translation: Given the short deadline, what's the best way for us to manufacture the votes needed?

 

[bigvince]

<< . For Gore has already won an astonishing propaganda victory: With the help of reasonably sympathetic coverage from a largely Democratic and liberal national press corps, he has managed to spin his extraordinary, radical, unprecedented behavior as reasonable--and legitimate. >>




this just makes me sick, to think that the vice-president of the united states is LITERALY STEALING the presidancy and furthermore has the support of the CRIMNAL liberal news media. what al gore and the media have propagated is not only moraly reprehensible but criminal and they should be brought up on charges of conspiracy to undermine that us goverment and be shot!

 

[DefRef]

Picked up an interesting factoid from this Ann Coulter column: Did you know that though he's only a couple hundred thousand votes behind Gore in the popular count (due in part to the early INACCURATE calls for Gore depressing turnout in the West), Bush has received more votes than Clinton got in either of his runs?:Q

In 1996, Clinton got 47,401,185 votes (49.24% of total, Source). This year, Bush has 49,658,276 votes, so far. (48% I think that's rounded down. Source)

As Ann says in her piece, &quot;You remember Clinton -- he was the one they said we couldn't impeach because that would overturn the results of an election.&quot;

 

[Piecia]

This voting in funny...don't you see that all of the world is laughing...that's insane

 

[DefRef]

&quot; I'm ready to support the person with the most votes, whether it is Bush or Gore. Are you?&quot;

If Gore had won LEGITIMATELY (i.e. By several million votes and a few percentage points), I might've been disappointed, but c'est la vie. Life goes on.

That's NOT what's happening here! It's come down to THREE DEMOCRATS looking at ballots and deciding that a dimpled chad (which could've been someone starting to vote for Gore and then changing their mind and not voting for either of the *cough*stellar*cough candidates) meant a vote for Gore. Got that? IF SOMEONE DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR GORE, THEIR LAST-SECOND CHANGE OF MIND WILL BE COUNTED TO GORE'S ADVANTAGE. &quot;None of the above&quot; would become &quot;Gore&quot;.

I won't accept that and nobody should. I asked elsewhere this question of the Gore voters: Is this how you want to win? In a third-world-style, stolen election?

 

[BoberFett]

ride525

<< Let's take a look at the area of votes where there may be the most problem votes. >>

But if Gore ends up winning by one vote after the manual recounts, then I'd say that manual recounts everywhere in Florida are rather important. Perhaps there's a dimpled chad for Bush in some other county that would swing the election the other way.

This whole thing reeks.

 

[DefRef]

Some thoughts about the fairness of dimpled chads here>

A snip:

Miami-Dade County's heavy-handed decision this morning to consider only the undercounted, challenged ballots gives their game away.

Here's why: If a dimpled chad counts as a vote on the undervoted ballots ? those ballots where no presidential hole has been punched, even partially ? a dimpled chad must also count as a vote on all other ballots. A vote, as several astute readers have pointed out to me, is a vote.

So to be consistent, election workers would have to start over, scrutinizing even the cleanly punched ballots for dimpled chads or other marks that might indicate voter intent. If a voter punched through the hole for Al Gore, for example, but also registered an indentation ? a vote ? for George W. Bush, then neither candidate must receive a vote. Upon finding any ballots for which one candidate receives a clean vote another in the same race gets a dimpled chad they must disqualify it as an overvote.

But the deadline Mr. Boies whined about effectively prevents this from happening. Miami-Dade County's Democratic elections officials ? perhaps emboldened by two weeks of Democratic trashing of the law with complete immunity ? this morning ruled this morning that its cavassing board was, in fact, skipping the entire recount and moving quickly to review only the undercounted ballots. The deadline, you see. &quot;If dimpled ballots don't count, it's over,&quot; a top Gore adviser told the New York Times.

The Gore strategy is simple: Dimpled ballots only count on undervotes. They count in no other context.
(Emphasis added)

Yeah...like this will ever happen.