Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: HDTVMan
Sony takes DRM too far.
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
Too much proof and not following a EULA its lawsuit time.
How can anyone *possibly* be surprised by this? Sony are bastards and they always have been. They lie and distort the truth worse than any company I've *ever* seen just to sell products. They make Microsoft look like a pinnacle of virtue, for Chrissakes.
There's a simple solution here, folks: Don't buy Sony products. Don't buy their music, their movies, their players, their games--don't give them your dollars. Make Sony pay for their crimes by taking away your monetary support. It will do more good than any government action will, and more importantly, it is within your power to *ensure* that Sony doesn't get your dollars. All you have to do is make a choice and then follow through on it.
Jason
Well no PS3 then. Nor will my new home theater system be a sony. Thye just lost 800 dollars. BFD.
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
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Personally, when PS3 comes out I plan to pick up an Xbox 360. I figure it like this: They'll have had the first price drop by then, the second gen software will be hitting while PS3's first gen is hitting and all the good stuff will be on 360 at that point. Other than that, Rev. Besides, if PS3 follows suit with PS1 and PS2, the first batch will be junk anyway.
Oh, and believe me, you *don't* want a Sony home theatre system. Their receivers are the *worst* I've ever seen and their subs & speakers are crap. Only way to get a good Sony receiver or speakers is to go with their ES models, and those will put you into debt in a way that will make you cry
Jason
No.Originally posted by: cstegger
Back to this article. Do you think installing rootkits is a good practice? Whether it is a BIG Company or your not so friendly neighbor kid. I personally wouldn't like to have one loaded on my machine from either source. Attacking another person does little to state how you feel about something IMHO. I think that that copy protection is a neccessary evil to protect intellectual property of the developers or artists painstaking work but when you start altering the system of the client to hide running processes you have installed mallware. And this is plain wrong and should be punished in the same way as if a hacker did that to your computer. Not just once but for every computer that they have done this to.
Aside: they are likely really Sanyo, anywayOriginally posted by: YoshiSato
I'm not even buying Sony brand batteries. Hell with their thinking they will have a EULA making it only possible to use the batteries in a Sony product.Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
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Personally, when PS3 comes out I plan to pick up an Xbox 360. I figure it like this: They'll have had the first price drop by then, the second gen software will be hitting while PS3's first gen is hitting and all the good stuff will be on 360 at that point. Other than that, Rev. Besides, if PS3 follows suit with PS1 and PS2, the first batch will be junk anyway.
Oh, and believe me, you *don't* want a Sony home theatre system. Their receivers are the *worst* I've ever seen and their subs & speakers are crap. Only way to get a good Sony receiver or speakers is to go with their ES models, and those will put you into debt in a way that will make you cry
Jason
How so? Nothing about this seems to have any effect on the ability of a good drive, such a LiteOn, to rip audio.You do know that if you have a Ipod you can't convert a Sony CD to play on the iPod right because if ther "protection"
Until they quit making CDs, it won't stop.BTW the pirates are still trading the protected CDs on the P2P networks. This did nothing to protect the media. All it did was treat legitimate consumers like criminals(USSR style)
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sony should go down for this one.
Originally posted by: Cerb
Did the CD, by any chance, sport the good old CDDA logo? If not, buying it is a risk. Red book FTW, DRM DIAF.
This is hacking, and Sony should not not get fined: they should have to pay a per-incedent fine to anyone who bought a copy of one of those discs.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
I agree, Rip was a thousand times brighter, as well.Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: bthorny
I think this is just more proof that Zendari=Riprorin...
Didn't he trash him over this all the time....or maybe I'm thinking of someone else.....
That's ludicrous. Rip was totally religious and socially conservative, I don't see zendari making any posts similar to Rip's.
Zendari didn't even know about dave's little run-in with the law until a day or two ago.
Originally posted by: zendari
Fvck them both and huge copy protection garbage.
Originally posted by: zendari
Medicinebear, DVD shrink and Decrypter are easy to use programs that should work well for you.
Originally posted by: Vic
The heart and soul of DRM can be summed up in Napster's latest marketing phrase: "Own nothing, have everything."
The traditional system of music distribution, where the consumer purchased specific products from specific artists, benefitted the artists and consumers more than the production and distribution companies. The new system being pushed for is one where the consumer pays for his entertainment content on a monthly basis. As soon the consumer stops paying each month, he loses his privileges. This is not about preventing piracy or copyright infringement. It's not even really about profits (especially when one considers the enormous expense the new system is costing). It's about control. Control over the artists and control over the consumers. Control over the artists even more so.
A few words of advice: disable autoplay. Better yet, don't play your new content-protected audio CD's on your PC's period. Line-in an old school style CD player and capture the audio in wav at 1x, the encode to your favorite compression (like ripping vinyl). Remember, if it can be played, it can be recorded and copied. No matter how many billions Sony and the like spend, they can never prevent that, they can only make in inconvenient.
Originally posted by: Cerb
c|net article
Wow, somebody at c|net still hasn't sold her soul to Apple. I'm impressed.
(credit: Febs found it, not I)
P.S. The Linuxator, I wholly agree. If it weren't for the DRM, I might have gone for one of the 'perfume bottle' Sony players. As far as the hardware goes, they are now the only large company that can really compete with Apple.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Cerb
Did the CD, by any chance, sport the good old CDDA logo? If not, buying it is a risk. Red book FTW, DRM DIAF.
This is hacking, and Sony should not not get fined: they should have to pay a per-incedent fine to anyone who bought a copy of one of those discs.
Sony got so scared that they released a patch today to make the code unhidden and you can delete it.
Or was it simply just mention my name??? :shocked:
11-2-2005 Sony to offer patch to reveal hidden copy-protection software
SAN JOSE, Calif. ? After a chorus of criticism, Sony Corp.'s music division said Wednesday it is distributing a free software patch to reveal hidden files that automatically installed to hard drives when some of its music CDs were played on personal computers.
The offending technology was designed to thwart music piracy.
The controversy highlights the need for rules as to what content providers can and can't install on PCs to protect their property, said Russinovich, who is co-founder and chief software architect at Winternals Software, which specializes in advanced systems software for Microsoft Windows.
"We need to get some formality about what's legal, what's ethical and what's fair ? and what level of disclosure there needs to be," he said. "It's fine for Sony to say we're not going to do that now. What kind of guarantee do we have they're not going to do it at a future date or that other companies are not going to do this?"
Originally posted by: Cerb
Derailing (kind of comes back in the last sentence)...
First, who wants to use Atrac? Seems like a waste of time to me, just because of the Sony lock-in.
Second, and Pro #3, 1GB = 1GB, no matter how you slice it. 1GB of MP3s says nothing about the MP3s or the Atracs that could go on there. 8k? 384k? What encoder, what version of it, and what settings? Did you check by ABXing them? It's 1GB, and there is no perfect answer for everyone's brain when it comes the ability to fit the music on there at a good quality.
Speaking of ABX tests...
http://www.rjamorim.com/test/multiformat128/results.html
Any universal claims of quality for a lossy codec are not to be trusted.
Third, AFAIK, they still require special software to do the music management. I like doing that myself. Transcode with FB2K+LAME, transfer with Explorer. My player has some software (JetAudio, JetShell), but I've not bothered to install it, because it serves no purpose for me.
Pro #6: replacing the battery makes that a null issue (1x900mAh gives me around 12 hours). However, I'd deal with a LI battery for that nice of a player w/o DRM. If Sony were still an electronics company, not a be-everything-about-entertainment company, they probably would have it out, already.
CONS :
1-SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
2-SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
3-SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
4-SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
5-SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
6- & more SUCKY SOFTWARE !!!
Originally posted by: cumhail
More proof that Sony will do whatever it thinks it can get away with...
"Sony BMG executives have defended the company's actions.
Most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," Thomas Hesse, president of Sony BMG's global digital business, said in an interview with National Public Radio on Friday."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1883828,00.asp
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cumhail
More proof that Sony will do whatever it thinks it can get away with...
"Sony BMG executives have defended the company's actions.
Most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," Thomas Hesse, president of Sony BMG's global digital business, said in an interview with National Public Radio on Friday."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1883828,00.asp
He has got to be a Republican. Can someone confirm this?
Originally posted by: cumhail
More proof that Sony will do whatever it thinks it can get away with...
"Sony BMG executives have defended the company's actions.
Most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," Thomas Hesse, president of Sony BMG's global digital business, said in an interview with National Public Radio on Friday."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1883828,00.asp
cumhail
Yeah, I just read that a few hours ago (this week's Katt comic is great, BTW). You'd have to want to not care to be fooled by that guy.Originally posted by: cumhail
More proof that Sony will do whatever it thinks it can get away with...
"Sony BMG executives have defended the company's actions.
Most people don't know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," Thomas Hesse, president of Sony BMG's global digital business, said in an interview with National Public Radio on Friday."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1883828,00.asp
cumhail