Let the tip war begin! - Woman uses "single mom" as excuse not to tip, total - $138

[EMPshockwave82]

Any right-thinking person hates the tipping culture in the service industry.

The cheapasses are the people who refuse to pay their staff properly.

Tipping serves no positive purpose at all. You can go to places like Sweden and Iceland, where tipping doesn't really exist, and the service will be no worse than what you get in the US.

You might be right. But in Sweden what is your recourse for getting terrible service? Complaining to the manager? Getting angry and taking it out on someone else? At least in a tipping culture you can put it straight to the person that didn't do their job properly (in your eyes).

 

[Veliko]

You might be right. But in Sweden what is your recourse for getting terrible service? Complaining to the manager? Getting angry and taking it out on someone else? At least in a tipping culture you can put it straight to the person that didn't do their job properly (in your eyes).

In any country in the world, what is your recourse for getting terrible service in any industry...?

If I get poor service from, say, Amazon, what recourse do I have?

 

[DesiPower]

Any right-thinking person hates the tipping culture in the service industry.

The cheapasses are the people who refuse to pay their staff properly.

Tipping serves no positive purpose at all. You can go to places like Sweden and Iceland, where tipping doesn't really exist, and the service will be no worse than what you get in the US.

You are comparing culture of US to small Scandinavian semi-socialist country? P.H.A.I.L

 

[DCal430]

If true, and if I owned the restaurant, she'd have a lifetime ban. I have no use for people like that, or their money.

If you ban someone for not leaving tip that is against the law here.

 

[DesiPower]

In any country in the world, what is your recourse for getting terrible service in any industry...?

If I get poor service from, say, Amazon, what recourse do I have?

You can call them, email them, return the item and worst case dispute the payment, there are plenty of options. Stop trolling.

 

[Veliko]

You are comparing culture of US to small Scandinavian semi-socialist country? P.H.A.I.L

Someone from Texas who fails to grasp a simple point?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell thee.

 

[Veliko]

You can call them, email them, return the item and worst case dispute the payment, there are plenty of options. Stop trolling.

And what prevents someone in Sweden from doing a similar thing, when they get poor service in a restaurant?

 

[Meractik]

What is a white peoples restaurant?

McDonalds, Olive Garden, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Franchises!

 

[lxskllr]

If you ban someone for not leaving tip that is against the law here.

If true, I doubt that extends beyond CA, and if I find myself living in CA, I'd know I fucked up my life bad somewhere along the way.

 

[DCal430]

People here get around $8 to 10 an hour BEFORE tip and most still expect a 15% minimum tip, many want 20% now. LOL

 

[WaTaGuMp]

McDonalds, Olive Garden, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Franchises!

People tip at McDonalds, Starbucks or Dunkin?

 

[DesiPower]

And what prevents someone in Sweden from doing a similar thing, when they get poor service in a restaurant?

You are trolling again, EMPshockwave82 said instead of complaining and whining, through tiping you can ensure good service or let the server know that the service was not good.

 

[AMDZen]

In any country in the world, what is your recourse for getting terrible service in any industry...?

If I get poor service from, say, Amazon, what recourse do I have?

Agreed. People act like the service industry is another world from the rest of consumer'dom

You do business with businesses that do good business. You don't with those that don't. Its as simple as that.

However, apparently restaurants are another world. When you walk into one, you are transported via a complicated teleport system to another dimension where things are different.

You get bad service, you don't patronize the establishment again. I do this even in the scenario where I don't leave a good tip either. Truth be told, I still tip but not well, then leave and don't come back.

 

[DCal430]

If true, I doubt that extends beyond CA, and if I find myself living in CA, I'd know I fucked up my life bad somewhere along the way.

To clarify, if you ban someone for not leaving tip then that makes the tip mandatory, which means you must charge sales tax on it, and 8 to 10% must be given to the state as sales tax.

 

[Veliko]

You are trolling again, EMPshockwave82 said instead of complaining and whining, through tiping you can ensure good service or let the server know that the service was not good.

I'll let you figure out the inherent contradiction here.

 

[lord_emperor]

I want to see the server's pay stub to verify their hourly wage, then know why they think they're entitled to an extra $20 for serving one table.

That's 2 or 3 hours worth of extra pay in any of the sane states with normal minimum wage, or any other country in the world.

 

[DAGTA]

McDonalds, Olive Garden, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Franchises!

McDonalds, a white person restaurant? Not sure about that...

 

[SunnyD]

I tip 10% at chinese restaurants and the severs seem happy.

white people restaurants expect 18% which is absurd

I gave about a 22% tip at the hole in the wall Mexican place that I **KNOW** employs (or used to) illegals last time I went. Why? Because I know those guys work hard for their money - AND the food is always great, the service is always great, and you get WAY more than you should for the price. These guys are real Americans - they don't bitch about their jobs. They're just happy to have a job.

Same thing at the hole in the wall Chinese place across the street from work when I grab lunch there sometimes. I'll give them about a 30% tip mostly because I don't have a problem with a $2 top on a $6 order.

Typical "American" chain dining etablishment? They're lucky if I give those silver-spoon teen trashheaps 10%.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I gave about a 22% tip at the hole in the wall Mexican place that I **KNOW** employs (or used to) illegals last time I went. Why? Because I know those guys work hard for their money - AND the food is always great, the service is always great, and you get WAY more than you should for the price. These guys are real Americans - they don't bitch about their jobs. They're just happy to have a job.

Now you opened a new can of worms. ILLEGAL and REAL Americans?

 

[RedRooster]

Karma man. Kar-ma.

 

[SunnyD]

Now you opened a new can of worms. ILLEGAL and REAL Americans?

Yup... people pursuing the American dream and not whining about not having it handed to them every step of the way. (I'm talking about people that are completely different from your typical "Moving to Amerika to have my anchor babby and collect free welfare check" illegal btw)

These are the kind of people this country was built on. It's a shame they get lost in the chaff.

 

[DesiPower]

I'll let you figure out the inherent contradiction here.

It was on purpose, you and compliment or complain, at the end of the day, tiping ensures good service.

 

[sdifox]

Her picture would be at the hostess station, and if she came in, and was recognized, she'd be escorted out. It isn't foolproof, but it's close enough. Genius...

Korben Dallas Multi-Pass!

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Yup... people pursuing the American dream and not whining about not having it handed to them every step of the way. (I'm talking about people that are completely different from your typical "Moving to Amerika to have my anchor babby and collect free welfare check" illegal btw)

These are the kind of people this country was built on. It's a shame they get lost in the chaff.

Even the ones that come here to work take full advantage of things they can get for free. Don't think for one second the info doesn't reach people still across the border. Hey just get over the fence etc, you can get a job and free healthcare etc etc. They can get knocked up, come here, walk into any hospital and have their kid delivered on the tax payers dime.

 

[shortylickens]

People tip at McDonalds, Starbucks or Dunkin?

McDonalds people can NOT accept tips. But most coffee places have a tip jar. Even the big chains.


As for the illegal/legal immigrant issue: If that bothered me so much, I simply would not eat there any more.

It is the height of rudeness to patron a restaurant and not tip because of some other issue unrelated to the quality of service.

One of the reasons I dont go to my local Hooters any more is they started hiring anchor babies to serve the illegals. But I'm not gonna go in and just treat people poorly, that accomplishes nothing and builds animosity.