Let the tip war begin! - Woman uses "single mom" as excuse not to tip, total - $138

[Atomic Playboy]

Here's a tip to even it out, get a job that pays at least minimum wage.

With tips, servers at high-end restaurants can make significantly more than minimum wage. I've heard personal testimony from waiters at Vegas restaurants who will clear $2,000 a night on weekends based almost exclusively on tips.

 

[HeXen]

What I want to know is what restaurant has ever refused to service non tippers? I mean you would have to remember who they were, assuming you were even working that day, then the management would have to agree cause likely that person is going to go apeshit right there in the restaurant in front of customers. No manager wants a scene...but i'm curious to know who has actually refused service and how they reacted to it.

 

[jagec]

My friend who makes 6 figures at Apple tipped a cab driver 30 cents before. I hate cheapasses. I'm not even a rich guy, but when I was in grad school if I went out and spent money, I tipped appropriately. Unless the service is horrible, there's no reason to give less than 15%.

And if you can't stand tipping, don't go out. Period.

Maybe that's why he makes 6 figures and you're just a grad student.

LET THE TROLLING BEGIN!

 

[Veliko]

quality of service. If the restaurant's paid better, there would be no incentive to give good service, this causes people to stop going there.
When I get bad service, I tip poorly and won't go there for quite some time. If the food is bad I tip normally but never, ever go back. There's a balance there and too many other places to go eat at.

Let's take a closer look at the post that you replied to:

Originally Posted by Veliko
Any right-thinking person hates the tipping culture in the service industry.

The cheapasses are the people who refuse to pay their staff properly.

Tipping serves no positive purpose at all. You can go to places like Sweden and Iceland, where tipping doesn't really exist, and the service will be no worse than what you get in the US.

Can you see the part that I bolded? That, right there, the bit that you ignored, completely negates what you are saying.

Let's also take a closer look at the inherent contradiction in your post:

there would be no incentive to give good service, this causes people to stop going there.

If people stop going there, the restaurant goes out of business, and everyone loses their job.

This means that the management will have an incentive to make sure their staff do their jobs properly, as happens in just about every other industry in every other nation.

 

[Wreckem]

Most of them run the place or are relatives of the owner or bonded labors who don't get to keep it anyways, so it does not matter to them.

By bonded, do you mean indentured and were victims of human trafficking. Its a big problem in the restaurant biz right now.

 

[Wreckem]

With tips, servers at high-end restaurants can make significantly more than minimum wage. I've heard personal testimony from waiters at Vegas restaurants who will clear $2,000 a night on weekends based almost exclusively on tips.

Wait staff in fine dining(ie: high end) can easily clear $70k/year.

 

[Wreckem]

I gave about a 22% tip at the hole in the wall Mexican place that I **KNOW** employs (or used to) illegals last time I went. Why? Because I know those guys work hard for their money - AND the food is always great, the service is always great, and you get WAY more than you should for the price. These guys are real Americans - they don't bitch about their jobs. They're just happy to have a job.

Same thing at the hole in the wall Chinese place across the street from work when I grab lunch there sometimes. I'll give them about a 30% tip mostly because I don't have a problem with a $2 top on a $6 order.

Typical "American" chain dining etablishment? They're lucky if I give those silver-spoon teen trashheaps 10%.

Were they just illegal? Or were they indentured? Its possible it was the later, which meant they didn't get anything. Many people are victims of human trafficking in the US, where they are promised to be taken to the US for a job, but when they get here they are told they owe the traffickers(or the people who paid the traffickers for the victim) an impossible amount of money that takes years to work off. Thats if they are lucky, as most are set up to never be able to pay off their "debt."

There are approx. 12million slaves in the US right now. A majority are in the sex industry, but the next largest amount are working in restaurants. The hotel industry has a lot as well.

 

[Chrono]

I never leave tip. It's your fuckin' job to serve me now do it! Don't like it? Go get a fuckin' education and get a real job using your brain instead.

 

[rh71]

I'm against tipping but do it because of the social norm. This woman went out knowing that and basically just gave a big FU to the waiter/waitress.

And what meal with kids costs $138??? The four of us can do $50 at a family restaurant since each adult dish is only $15-ish. She's obviously not watching her money THAT closely.

 

[Meractik]

People tip at McDonalds, Starbucks or Dunkin?

sometimes there is a tip jug by the cashier.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

If you've got the money to spend $138.35 on a food tab, you've got the money for a tip. I wouldn't ban her but, I'd inform her that a 15% gratuity would be added automatically to future tabs. If she doesn't come back, that's fine.

 

[amdhunter]

I don't tip because someone else will eventually. Why tip them twice?

 

[ImpulsE69]

Any right-thinking person hates the tipping culture in the service industry.

The cheapasses are the people who refuse to pay their staff properly.

Tipping serves no positive purpose at all. You can go to places like Sweden and Iceland, where tipping doesn't really exist, and the service will be no worse than what you get in the US.

I sort of agree with this except that the idea behind it is that if you get good service you tip and vice versa. The catch is both sides have to see it the same way and for some reason it's morphed into a required minimum regardless of service.

 

[paulney]

Also:

http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/15-secrets-your-waiter-will-never-tell-you-2447556.html

If making hot tea is such a pain for you that you are going to hate me for it, better quit your job now. My wife often requests tea when we go out for dinner. I didn't realize its such a big deal..,

 

[Anubis]

People tip at McDonalds, Starbucks or Dunkin?

i leave pennies in the cup at dunkin, because i fucking hate pennies

 

[DesiPower]

I'm against tipping but do it because of the social norm. This woman went out knowing that and basically just gave a big FU to the waiter/waitress.

And what meal with kids costs $138??? The four of us can do $50 at a family restaurant since each adult dish is only $15-ish. She's obviously not watching her money THAT closely.

Probably that's the reason she's single. she's a dumb ass bitch

 

[postmortemIA]

See what girl got as present in Des Moines for poor tipping yesterday:

Caught on video: Pizza delivery man urinates on woman's door

 

[Powermoloch]

I hope gratuity charge should be automatic lol.

 

[Cpus]

sometimes there is a tip jug by the cashier.

I think its for their charities.

 

[shortylickens]

I was stationed in Iceland for 2 years, believe me tipping makes a difference. Though I will admit the minimum standard of quality is a lot higher than in tip-reliant economies like America and Canada.

Ditto the kids. They dont believe in spanking or any kind of serious discipline up there, but for some reason the children are a little better behaved than American kids who never received discipline. But again, they do much better if they are disciplined.

What is the point of my rambling? What works in Europe works in Europe. It doesnt always have the same effect here in America. We perceive things differently.

 

[shortylickens]

If making hot tea is such a pain for you that you are going to hate me for it, better quit your job now. My wife often requests tea when we go out for dinner. I didn't realize its such a big deal..,

In Virginia and most of the rest of the south, brewed tea is pretty much the norm everywhere you go. They dont make a big deal out of having to prepare it. Shit, even plenty of fast food places have a pot right next to the soda fountain.

 

[SunnyD]

Even the ones that come here to work take full advantage of things they can get for free. Don't think for one second the info doesn't reach people still across the border. Hey just get over the fence etc, you can get a job and free healthcare etc etc. They can get knocked up, come here, walk into any hospital and have their kid delivered on the tax payers dime.

True. But in my opinion, they're the ones that actually earn those things too, unlike those worthless shits that just sit around spitting out kids to collect their monthly beer and iPhone check.

30% tip is way too much for any restaurant. But yeah the American restaurants act like they are entitled to 18% tip which makes me sick. I usually tip them 12%.

Honestly, in terms of the Chinese place, I feel like I'm getting more food than I'm paying for in this case. It doesn't bother me.

Were they just illegal? Or were they indentured? Its possible it was the later, which meant they didn't get anything. Many people are victims of human trafficking in the US, where they are promised to be taken to the US for a job, but when they get here they are told they owe the traffickers(or the people who paid the traffickers for the victim) an impossible amount of money that takes years to work off. Thats if they are lucky, as most are set up to never be able to pay off their "debt."

There are approx. 12million slaves in the US right now. A majority are in the sex industry, but the next largest amount are working in restaurants. The hotel industry has a lot as well.

No, he was here illegally, per his own words. He left when Alabama passed the new immigration bill for fear of his family's safety. Haven't seen him since unfortunately.

 

[LumbergTech]

I left a penny one time at Golden Corral and the entire staff got worked up. I had a friend who worked there and mentioned that they were riled up about "this guy". I neglected to tell her it was me. I almost always tip, but that time I didn't have it and there was a penny change from my dinner and I just left it on the table. Pretty strong accidental troll.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

I used to go out to eat with my Egyptian friend & he never tipped. Sometimes I'd tip a little more on his behalf, then chew him out about it. It was kind of embarrassing.
This guy went out on a semi-regular basis, often times to the same places.
Sushi several times a week type shit. I just couldn't keep up with him, without going broke or getting fat myself.
He said they didn't tip where he came from, that he never tipped before & sees no reason to start now.
He eventually got a steady girlfriend who got it through to him.

 

[Puppies04]

Its funny because this has always been a hot topic on ATOT. I worked as a waiter and I used to be very pro tipping. Not so much as I've gotten older.

Even though everyone argues for tipping on this forum, my stance has gone the other way. I think its because everyone has such strong opinions on it. Yea, sure I was a waiter, and then I got a better job. If you need tips to survive, get a better job

What you are basically looking at is a way for resaurant/bar owners to advertise one price on a menu that bears no reality to the actual price you will pay. Pay ALL staff a minimum wage set by the government and tip for excellent service/good food/because you are drunk and the server has awesome boobs/any other reason. It works all over the world, is fair and stops all these stupid arguements about whether servers actually make minimum wage or not.

Morraly compulsory tipping is the stupidest idea ever created and the fact that some places expect you to tip while others don't would be confusing as hell for a foreigner like me.