Originally posted by: Cookie
Is 'indifference' a religion??
I don't care enough to be agnostic.
Originally posted by: Amused
Agnostic
I was an atheist until I realized that atheism is a logically untenable position. I can no more prove a god or gods do not exist than a theist can prove they do.
Therefore I am agnostic, I do not know and therefore have no positive, or negative belief on the subject.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Cookie
Is 'indifference' a religion??
I don't care enough to be agnostic.
That's the definition of agnostic. You don't know. Caring has nothing to do with it. You can not know and care, or not know and don't care. Either way, you're agnostic.
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: Amused
Agnostic
I was an atheist until I realized that atheism is a logically untenable position. I can no more prove a god or gods do not exist than a theist can prove they do.
Therefore I am agnostic, I do not know and therefore have no positive, or negative belief on the subject.
You don't need to believe that god's non-existence is a certainty nor even ascertainable in order to be an atheist. If you have no positive belief in the existence of a god, you are by definition an atheist.
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: Amused
Agnostic
I was an atheist until I realized that atheism is a logically untenable position. I can no more prove a god or gods do not exist than a theist can prove they do.
Therefore I am agnostic, I do not know and therefore have no positive, or negative belief on the subject.
You don't need to believe that god's non-existence is a certainty nor even ascertainable in order to be an atheist. If you have no positive belief in the existence of a god, you are by definition an atheist.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: Amused
Agnostic
I was an atheist until I realized that atheism is a logically untenable position. I can no more prove a god or gods do not exist than a theist can prove they do.
Therefore I am agnostic, I do not know and therefore have no positive, or negative belief on the subject.
You don't need to believe that god's non-existence is a certainty nor even ascertainable in order to be an atheist. If you have no positive belief in the existence of a god, you are by definition an atheist.
1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
The problem is, in western culture, Atheism is always associated with a denial of a god or gods.
Why not just avoid that confusion and use a more accurate term to describe your lack of beliefs?
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: Amused
Agnostic
I was an atheist until I realized that atheism is a logically untenable position. I can no more prove a god or gods do not exist than a theist can prove they do.
Therefore I am agnostic, I do not know and therefore have no positive, or negative belief on the subject.
You don't need to believe that god's non-existence is a certainty nor even ascertainable in order to be an atheist. If you have no positive belief in the existence of a god, you are by definition an atheist.
isn't "no positive belief in the existence of a god" very similar to faith that god does exist? using the word belief seems a lot like faith. or anti-faith in this case
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i mean, why does belief come into the picture? if there is no god, it has nothing to do with what you believe
if you have to not believe in God for him to not exist , it sounds like you have faith that he doesn't exist and i thought the whole thing about athiest is that they don't have to believe or not believe , there just isn't any god
i don't think i am explaining myself very well, but it just sounds like you are being contradicting by saying "no positive belief in the existence of a god". if there is no god then you don't need to not believe
nevermind if i am not communicating clearly