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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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She sat for twelve hours in that Benghazi hearing without batting an eye. She can definitely handle anything he throws at her.

You know something bad happened to Trump when it was Clinton who mentioned Benghazi for herself... and it worked!
 

chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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You have to remember that both of these candidates are as old as dust. The one elected will be oldest president in American history. I hope they have a full supply of Depends stocked in the Oval Office.

Billary doesn't care if she drops dead the day after she's inaugurated: Her ambition is to be the first female POTUS. It's icing on the cake that her ego will be stroked and validated each and every day she's POTUS. My dad has the TV on upstairs and she's at some college it sounds like: These young fools are cheering over every talking point, carefully scripted and manufactured to get them fired up enough to go out and vote against that evil Trump and elect Her, their New Savior (the last one was less Savior than they were expecting, praise be upon Him). They literally are lapping up the calculated delivery that is transparently fake - they cannot get enough...it's amazing. It's like the pied piper is playing and the followers are marching happily along...
 

bshole

Diamond Member
Mar 12, 2013
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I think you glazed over the part of "Nation state backed hackers". We're not talking about self interested one-offs that are doing it for personal profit or bragging rights. He's talking about a government backed/funded/encouraged organized hack on private data and interests. That's quite a different game and a quite terrifying one.

To you it is, not to me.

We don't need new laws or more government intervention to deal with that threat. It is just fear-mongering to get Americans to relinquish more control of their own lives.

The very best computer minds are in private industry, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. The solution will come from computer geniuses, not Washington bureaucrats on a power binge.
 

bshole

Diamond Member
Mar 12, 2013
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To you it is, not to me.

We don't need new laws or more government intervention to deal with that threat. It is just fear-mongering to get Americans to relinquish more control of their own lives.

The very best computer minds are in private industry, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. The solution will come from computer geniuses, not Washington bureaucrats on a power binge.

I suspect this whole thing is a scheme by powerful corporate elites who want to offload the cost of cyber security from themselves onto the American taxpayer.....
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
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The very best computer minds are in private industry, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. The solution will come from computer geniuses, not Washington bureaucrats on a power binge.
You seem to think it's a mind game, it's far more a resource game.

Who has the biggest fire hose (bandwidth for DDoS) and who has the most trained actors available.

Nations and governments clearly have the advantage here, China's cyber security budget alone is probably large enough to embarrass almost any large corporation, not to mention having several million domestic chinese computers connected to a government controlled botnet for large DDoS actions.

This is a numbers game and business entities can't be expected to keep up on their own.
 

bshole

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Mar 12, 2013
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This is a numbers game and business entities can't be expected to keep up on their own.

....and there it is..... This is just a big sham to put American taxpayers on the hook for corporations that are too damn cheap to pay for their own cyber security. Screw that, if they want taxpayer money to pay for their operations, then their profits should be shared with the taxpayers.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
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....and there it is..... This is just a big sham to put American taxpayers on the hook for corporations that are too damn cheap to pay for their own cyber security. Screw that, if they want taxpayer money to pay for their operations, then their profits should be shared with the taxpayers.
It has nothing to do with too damn cheap, you think a business should have to devote millions of dollars to massive cyber security infrastructure in the off chance they're targeted by china or russia? What a total waste of american money that would be.

The idea is we pay taxes to the government so they can have the cyber security apparatus that is large enough and powerful enough to dissuade any foreign nations. This way we spend the money once and protect everyone equally instead of spending the money on a case by case basis.

It simply isn't possible to have EVERYONE provide their own security, its far too expensive.

Do you think every state should still maintain and fund a militia? Or are you okay with our national branches of military?
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Found an archived thread on /pol/ giving instructions to download bot software to rig online polls.

It's pretty obvious the online polls are mostly bullshit.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/90478498#p90478498

And yet every and I mean EVERY conservative news source out there is pointing to the online polls as an indication of a Trump victory.

I genuinely would love to hear from someone from the right as to why they believe living in this type of denial is going to help win. Trump can't stand up on his own merits so they have to create a false narrative that he has merit. In the end it won't change anything with the people who are deciding who to vote for. The only purpose it seems to serve is making them feel better about their choices.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I'd play along and take credit, but I really don't need a visit from the freaking FBI.
This thread is really working for me, I haven't laughed so much in quite a while. Get past 7:00PM and it's a real laugh fest. And I ain't done yet.
 

vi edit

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 28, 1999
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....and there it is..... This is just a big sham to put American taxpayers on the hook for corporations that are too damn cheap to pay for their own cyber security. Screw that, if they want taxpayer money to pay for their operations, then their profits should be shared with the taxpayers.

That's not even the point. I'm not suggesting that the feds be responsible for setting digital hardpoints on private data. It's about federal policy and diplomacy dealing with foreign states that encourage the behavior.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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I loved the part where Trump criticized roads, bridges, and airports he didn't pay for.
I am sorry we didn't build them nice enough for his majesty who doesn't pay taxes.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Clinton has the patience of a zen master. How anyone can stand next to such an uninterrupted stream of unintelligible and vapid nothing word salads without cackling outragously is beyond me.

give that lady the purple heart that Donald got from that other dude.
She was well schooled. She had worn the shoes, walked around in them for a few weeks, they fit good. She was comfortable. She probably had some loonies with orange hair pulled over their heads and riffed off them for hours. Like I heard it said, she was aware (DT too) that maybe 100,000,000 Americans were watching and she'd never have a better opportunity to reach them. It was imperative to stay on point. She did the job by and large.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Billary doesn't care if she drops dead the day after she's inaugurated: Her ambition is to be the first female POTUS. It's icing on the cake that her ego will be stroked and validated each and every day she's POTUS. My dad has the TV on upstairs and she's at some college it sounds like: These young fools are cheering over every talking point, carefully scripted and manufactured to get them fired up enough to go out and vote against that evil Trump and elect Her, their New Savior (the last one was less Savior than they were expecting, praise be upon Him). They literally are lapping up the calculated delivery that is transparently fake - they cannot get enough...it's amazing. It's like the pied piper is playing and the followers are marching happily along...

You whine magnificently.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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3,459
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She was well schooled. She had worn the shoes, walked around in them for a few weeks, they fit good. She was comfortable. She probably had some loonies with orange hair pulled over their heads and riffed off them for hours. Like I heard it said, she was aware (DT too) that maybe 100,000,000 Americans were watching and she'd never have a better opportunity to reach them. It was imperative to stay on point. She did the job by and large.

If Trump can't handle Clinton or some mean reporters, how do people expect him to handle Putin or Jinping? The talking point from the right that she somehow cheated by being prepared is mind-boggling.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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I think you glazed over the part of "Nation state backed hackers". We're not talking about self interested one-offs that are doing it for personal profit or bragging rights. He's talking about a government backed/funded/encouraged organized hack on private data and interests. That's quite a different game and a quite terrifying one.

I think Trump touched on those as "400lb hackers sitting in their beds"
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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I loved the part where Trump criticized roads, bridges, and airports he didn't pay for.
I am sorry we didn't build them nice enough for his majesty who doesn't pay taxes.

Thought it was amusing he used Biden's "third world country" line about LGA. Ironically where I see Trump's 757 parked on occasion when flying to/from NYC.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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If Trump can't handle Clinton or some mean reporters, how do people expect him to handle Putin or Jinping? The talking point from the right that she somehow cheated by being prepared is mind-boggling.

It is a truly amazing thing when their counter argument is 'she only beat him because she actually put the work in ahead of time'. They are basically saying that she won because she's a hard worker and he isn't.

lol.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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If Trump can't handle Clinton or some mean reporters, how do people expect him to handle Putin or Jinping? The talking point from the right that she somehow cheated by being prepared is mind-boggling.

Hillary was basically required to be there last night.

if Trump constantly interrupted and shouted down someone like Putin as he did to Clinton, they'd probably just walk away from the negotiation table.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Hillary looked depressed and sullen last night. But what most voters found was her 6:00 PM shadow had not been shaved giving her an even more sinister look. With thoughts of deleted Clinton Foundation emails dancing in her head she was probably distracted as well.

Trump was a debate ninja. I expect he will win the election in a landslide.

Well, that's the view from Disneyland, obviously.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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The debate to me was like watching a kindergarden student throwing tantrums at a Disney animatronic from the Hall of Presidents.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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If Trump can't handle Clinton or some mean reporters, how do people expect him to handle Putin or Jinping? The talking point from the right that she somehow cheated by being prepared is mind-boggling.
As I said earlier, Trump proved the former Intelligence guy correct. He's the perfect retarded agent. Easily manipulated.

BTW: Nice avatar
 
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