Lets get ready for some Debating Cage Fights Round 1,2, and 3

[cytg111]

"She has got experience, Ill give her that, but it is BAD experience"

Every single argument he throws; she bad, me good.

Hillary has spent her entire life in service of other people, like her form or not. The only way NOT to make mistakes is to do nothing. Of course she has mistakes in the bag + id like to see Putin try to stare her down. She will eat him alive.

 

[zinfamous]

lmao, Trump just got really lucky (or he really is playing 10-dimensional hypergalactic chess):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we8OnvlWSHg

well, this has gotten weird.

 

[bshole]

"She has got experience, Ill give her that, but it is BAD experience"
Hillary has spent her entire life in service of other people, like her form or not.

My view of the vast majority of national level politicians is that they are in it for the raw and naked POWER. I don't ever see them as servicing ANYTHING other than their fundamental need to control the lives of others. Ditto for certain corporate leaders like Trump. On his TV show he positively reveled in firing people, you could tell it gave him immense and ineffable pleasure to do so.

 

[Homerboy]

where are all the resident Trump zealots?


I have to say, I have, for years, been quite politically agnostic. I have more or less never discussed politics with my wife or extended family - it always results in arguments. I have told nobody who I voted for since I was able to cat my first ballot. This election though... Jesus. I have not been, and am not "pro-Clinton" but I am so anti-Trump it makes me nauseous. It's not only his politics (does he have any?) but it is him as a human being. He is disgusting and vile. That is not a person I can vote for on any level.

He's in town today. Makes me mad.

 

[fskimospy]

where are all the resident Trump zealots?


I have to say, I have, for years, been quite politically agnostic. I have more or less never discussed politics with my wife or extended family - it always results in arguments. I have told nobody who I voted for since I was able to cat my first ballot. This election though... Jesus. I have not been, and am not "pro-Clinton" but I am so anti-Trump it makes me nauseous. It's not only his politics (does he have any?) but it is him as a human being. He is disgusting and vile. That is not a person I can vote for on any level.

He's in town today, just blocks from my sisters house. She is physically ill due to that. My brother is attending the rally. Ugh.

He is, without a doubt, the worst major party candidate for president in history.

It's not just that I think his policies are bad, he appears to be a genuinely bad human being as well. In addition to his poor character he seems to be emotionally unstable and prone to erratic behavior.

I'm no fan of most republicans and I thought GWB was one of the worst presidents in history. That being said I would happily vote for GWB over this dangerous fool.

 

[nageov3t]

It's not just that I think his policies are bad, he appears to be a genuinely bad human being as well. In addition to his poor character he seems to be emotionally unstable and prone to erratic behavior.

say what you will about the policies of the Bushes, McCain, and Romney, but I feel like they were all genuinely good people, or at least trying to be (and more often than not came from a place of genuinely wanting to do what they saw as best for the country, even if I have radically different ideas on what "best" entails)

 

[MomentsofSanity]

He is, without a doubt, the worst major party candidate for president in history.

It's not just that I think his policies are bad, he appears to be a genuinely bad human being as well. In addition to his poor character he seems to be emotionally unstable and prone to erratic behavior.

I'm no fan of most republicans and I thought GWB was one of the worst presidents in history. That being said I would happily vote for GWB over this dangerous fool.

It hit the point some time ago where my wife and I can no longer stomach when he comes on the TV. I can't listen to him speak any more. It's just the same nonsense over and over and over. He doesn't even try to have a factual understanding of anything. Just slings whatever red meat comes to mind and his supporters eat it up. Has he ever actually addressed policy in his stump speeches?

 

[realibrad]

well, this has gotten weird.

OMG what the hell hahahaha.

Jesus.

 

[nageov3t]

stumbled on this picture today:

this was Alicia Machado in 1997, the year that Trump called her "Miss Piggy" and someone who "likes to eat."

 

[MomentsofSanity]

well, this has gotten weird.

From looking at old news reports apparently she was accused of being the getaway driver but was exhonerated due to having an alibi. She was at a taping for her soap opera until late into that evening.

I have to believe this to be accurate as there is no way she would have been granted citizenship in the United States with an attempted murder conviction.

 

[Homerboy]

It hit the point some time ago where my wife and I can no longer stomach when he comes on the TV. I can't listen to him speak any more. It's just the same nonsense over and over and over. He doesn't even try to have a factual understanding of anything. Just slings whatever red meat comes to mind and his supporters eat it up. Has he ever actually addressed policy in his stump speeches?

He is, without a doubt, the worst major party candidate for president in history.

It's not just that I think his policies are bad, he appears to be a genuinely bad human being as well. In addition to his poor character he seems to be emotionally unstable and prone to erratic behavior.

I'm no fan of most republicans and I thought GWB was one of the worst presidents in history. That being said I would happily vote for GWB over this dangerous fool.

say what you will about the policies of the Bushes, McCain, and Romney, but I feel like they were all genuinely good people, or at least trying to be (and more often than not came from a place of genuinely wanting to do what they saw as best for the country, even if I have radically different ideas on what "best" entails)

It hit the point some time ago where my wife and I can no longer stomach when he comes on the TV. I can't listen to him speak any more. It's just the same nonsense over and over and over. He doesn't even try to have a factual understanding of anything. Just slings whatever red meat comes to mind and his supporters eat it up. Has he ever actually addressed policy in his stump speeches?

I agree on all these points. Policies be damned and ignored, I simply do not like, nor can I even stand, the PERSON that Trump is. He is a vile, disgusting human being. One that I refuse to let represent me, my family and my country on a world stage. Even the politicians that you mention (GWB, McCain, etc) -- while I may not agree with some of their politics, I do believe they were, at the core, decent human being who would and wanted to help their fellow Americans (let alone fellow human beings). I just don't believe Trump would ever help a person out if there wasn't some benefit for him in the end.

 

[Jhhnn]

The one time that the audience broke out in laughter was when he was yelling about his great temperament. Go figure.

 

[fskimospy]

The one time that the audience broke out in laughter was when he was yelling about his great temperament. Go figure.

If I remember right after the audience starts laughing at him he gets angry and then doubles down, saying something like not only is is temperament good, but it might be his best quality.

 

[fskimospy]

I agree on all these points. Policies be damned and ignored, I simply do not like, nor can I even stand, the PERSON that Trump is. He is a vile, disgusting human being. One that I refuse to let represent me, my family and my country on a world stage. Even the politicians that you mention (GWB, McCain, etc) -- while I may not agree with some of their politics, I do believe they were, at the core, decent human being who would and wanted to help their fellow Americans (let alone fellow human beings). I just don't believe Trump would ever help a person out if there wasn't some benefit for him in the end.

Even though I'm someone who hasn't voted in years I'm considering it just as a way to express my total disgust with him as a candidate and as a person. Whatever he loses by it won't be enough.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

From looking at old news reports apparently she was accused of being the getaway driver but was exhonerated due to having an alibi. She was at a taping for her soap opera until late into that evening.

I have to believe this to be accurate as there is no way she would have been granted citizenship in the United States with an attempted murder conviction.

But will Trump believers accept that?

I vote no way...

 

[Homerboy]

Even though I'm someone who hasn't voted in years I'm considering it just as a way to express my total disgust with him as a candidate and as a person. Whatever he loses by it won't be enough.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote.
Truth be told, many years ago, I did not vote for years either (I felt an ignorant vote was the worst kind of vote). But this election is about the most important one -- most desperate one -- I can ever remember. Please vote. that's all I can say.

 

[Homerboy]

But will Trump believers accept that?

I vote no way...

Even if she was guilty of whatever she may or may not have partaken in -- what does it matter? He didn't know anything about her and was completely vulgar towards her and treated her like shit. Now of course I know you realize that, but the millions if Trump supports will still try to drag her through the mud.

 

[agent00f]

Even if she was guilty of whatever she may or may not have partaken in -- what does it matter? He didn't know anything about her and was completely vulgar towards her and treated her like shit. Now of course I know you realize that, but the millions if Trump supports will still try to drag her through the mud.

I would say it should be pretty obvious that something is lost in translation when speaking a foreign/second language, but trump fans don't seem the type to be able to relate.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Even if she was guilty of whatever she may or may not have partaken in -- what does it matter? He didn't know anything about her and was completely vulgar towards her and treated her like shit. Now of course I know you realize that, but the millions if Trump supports will still try to drag her through the mud.

But now she's a Citizen due to our lax immigration policy and she's a criminal too she should be deported.

*that is how its going to play out.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

But will Trump believers accept that?

I vote no way...

I'm sure their belief and faith will rest with the Venezuelan government.

 

[soundforbjt]

I can't believe Trump was "allowed" to give a commercial plug during the debates. That was beyond classless for someone seeking the office of President.

 

[Homerboy]

But now she's a Citizen due to our lax immigration policy and she's a criminal too she should be deported.

*that is how its going to play out.

that's fine if that's the spin they want to apply. Hell if she's guilty of something, I'm not against prosecuting her.
I'm just saying that the reason she was brought up in the first place was as an example of how Trump derides women and of that, she is a shining example.
(again I realize I'm preaching to the choir)

 

[agent00f]

that's fine if that's the spin they want to apply. Hell if she's guilty of something, I'm not against prosecuting her.
I'm just saying that the reason she was brought up in the first place was as an example of how Trump derides women and of that, she is a shining example.
(again I realize I'm preaching to the choir)

Disagree, trump loves women, particularly his own daughter, enough to date her.

 

[zinfamous]

I can't believe Trump was "allowed" to give a commercial plug during the debates. That was beyond classless for someone seeking the office of President.

I don't think anyone ever confused Trump with class. No one with even the smallest sense of taste, anyway.

 

[senseamp]

Morning consult poll (first one entirely post-debate) now has Hillary up by 3, vs down by 1 before debate. Nice bump.