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fskimospy

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote.
Truth be told, many years ago, I did not vote for years either (I felt an ignorant vote was the worst kind of vote). But this election is about the most important one -- most desperate one -- I can ever remember. Please vote. that's all I can say.

Well let's be clear here, I live in New York. If the election is close here then we are screwed anyway. It's more of just a desire to give Trump the finger.
 

Homerboy

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Well let's be clear here, I live in New York. If the election is close here then we are screwed anyway. It's more of just a desire to give Trump the finger.

Still vote. Regardless if your state is a "done deal". That's why I hate early polling numbers on election day -- people just say "well it's over" and end up not going. Such a waste.
 
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Well let's be clear here, I live in New York. If the election is close here then we are screwed anyway. It's more of just a desire to give Trump the finger.

Yea I live in Illinois, which hillary will win, probably by 80% or more, but I'm voting for the local level folks and to put my vote in against drumpf, because fsck drumpf, and his supporters.
 
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Yea I live in Illinois, which hillary will win, probably by 80% or more, but I'm voting for the local level folks and to put my vote in against drumpf, because fsck drumpf, and his supporters.

Go for moral victories too, not just electoral wins. I want an absolute thumping in the general vote to give him an extra kick in the ass. I live in Kentucky so my democratic vote is useless. Still voting. Not like I have anything better to do. It's a state holiday. Yes, in Kentucky presidential elections are state holidays!
 
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Go for moral victories too, not just electoral wins. I want an absolute thumping in the general vote to give him an extra kick in the ass. I live in Kentucky so my democratic vote is useless. Still voting. Not like I have anything better to do. It's a state holiday. Yes, in Kentucky presidential elections are state holidays!

should be a national holiday, imo. And yea, I feel a solid and repeated kicking to the balls of drumpf is absolutely needed. I think that's why I enjoyed the debate so much. Just watching him flail and lie and lie and flail. LOL....
 
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Homerboy

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Go for moral victories too, not just electoral wins. I want an absolute thumping in the general vote to give him an extra kick in the ass. I live in Kentucky so my democratic vote is useless. Still voting. Not like I have anything better to do. It's a state holiday. Yes, in Kentucky presidential elections are state holidays!

Excellent point about the majority vote. It should be national holiday if you ask me. Nobody should be working.

If he loses, it will be a blessing and a curse. If he loses, he is going to still be a cancer on American politics. Trump TV is going to happen and his zealots are going to be as unbearable as if he actually won.
 

emperus

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Oh my..
  • In 1997, Donald told Howard Stern that Machado was an “eating machine” who “ate a lot of everything.” “You whipped this fat slob into shape,” the radio host told Trump. “I don’t know how you did it. I see all these diet plans, everything else. God bless you.” When asked if Trump had “gotten her down to 118,” he said she is going to be there soon. (Via Buzzfeed)
  • Around the same time, Trump told Newsweek: “We’ve tried diet, spa, a trainer, incentives. Forget it, the way she’s going, she’d eat the whole gymnasium.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...latina-beauty-queen/57eb0230e9b69b0ec0c0a85d/
 
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Still vote. Regardless if your state is a "done deal". That's why I hate early polling numbers on election day -- people just say "well it's over" and end up not going. Such a waste.

I agree no polling number should be made public on election day until all the votes are cast
 
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should be a national holiday, imo. And yea, I feel a solid and repeated kicking to the balls of drumpf is absolutely needed. I think that's why I enjoyed the debate so much. Just watching him flail and lie and lie and flail. LOL....

Yup and it should be over two or three days one of which should be a National Holiday and one a weekend day. Nearly every employer should be required to make sure employees have at least one of the days off.
 
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Commodus

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If he loses, it will be a blessing and a curse. If he loses, he is going to still be a cancer on American politics. Trump TV is going to happen and his zealots are going to be as unbearable as if he actually won.

Of course, that's partly because Trump's devotees will cling to his insinuation that he could only lose if the election is rigged. Clinton could deliver an Obama-style thumping with full independent verification and they'd still be crying foul through 2020.
 
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Balt

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Of course, that's partly because Trump's devotees will cling to his insinuation that he could only lose if the election is rigged. Clinton could deliver an Obama-style thumping with full independent verification and they'd still be crying foul through 2020.

Yep. Hell, there are still people who think Obama only got elected twice because of voter fraud (illegal aliens voting, dead people voting, ACORN, etc.)
 

K1052

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Even though I'm someone who hasn't voted in years I'm considering it just as a way to express my total disgust with him as a candidate and as a person. Whatever he loses by it won't be enough.

Having only lived in rock solid blue areas for basically my whole eligible voting life I'll confess to never having voted, mainly because my preferred candidate was going to win anyway. This time around I would feel complicit were he to win the election and I didn't turn out to at least cast my lot against him even though Hillary will carry the state easily. I never really thought I would see somebody so totally reprehensible and potentially dangerous make it this far even though I know it's historically (not really ours) possible.

Also the race between our incumbent R senator and the D that's challenging him is sort of close and should the worst come to pass every extra D controlled seat in the Senate is going to be needed.
 

gamervivek

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lmao, Trump just got really lucky (or he really is playing 10-dimensional hypergalactic chess):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we8OnvlWSHg

Venezuela my country...

That segment can work pretty well as a Trump ad untouched. Clinton should've got someone better,

In Mexico a few years later, Machado insisted that her new baby was the child of businessman Rafael Hernandez Linares rather than of narco cartel druglord José Gerardo Álvarez Vázquez, a.k.a., El Indio, as Mexico’s Attorney General claimed. From a Google Translate version of a 2010 article in El Economista

http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-hilarious-story-of-alicia-machados-hillarys-victimized-woman/

wow just wow
 

Paratus

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Morning consult poll (first one entirely post-debate) now has Hillary up by 3, vs down by 1 before debate. Nice bump.

538 polls only has been slowly moving Hillarys way since the debate. It's now 58.2H vs 41.8T.
 

Jhhnn

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Having only lived in rock solid blue areas for basically my whole eligible voting life I'll confess to never having voted, mainly because my preferred candidate was going to win anyway. This time around I would feel complicit were he to win the election and I didn't turn out to at least cast my lot against him even though Hillary will carry the state easily. I never really thought I would see somebody so totally reprehensible and potentially dangerous make it this far even though I know it's historically (not really ours) possible.

Also the race between our incumbent R senator and the D that's challenging him is sort of close and should the worst come to pass every extra D controlled seat in the Senate is going to be needed.

Those seats are needed no matter who wins the presidency.
 
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It will be.



Oh, but that was in the past, nobody is a saint, etc etc.

Just by watching the local & national news I can comfortably say this is a powerful image to women. I'm a guy so it doesn't register as a big thing to me but women feel pressure about weight & looks so its different for them.
I'd guess shaming the former Miss Universe will be very dangerous.

BTW: This guy still has big, strong, masculine hands

 
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