Let's say you knew someone with an IQ of 150-200...

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Looney

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Looney
It's not what i believe, it's what it's intention is. SATs are APTITUDE tests...

ok with that statement you definitely are not of high IQ. You are weak also since you will defend it.... I do believe you may be the typical psych 101 student.

LOL and what's your experience or education with IQ tests? Because you think you've taken one before and scored 150? So now you know what IQ tests are? Unlike you, i'm not only educated in this, but i've administered and interpreted these tests before.

You're a dumbass that's trying to argue with me, but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

The SAT is an aptitude test. Like all aptitude tests, it must choose a medium in which to measure intellectual ability. The SAT has chosen math and English.

http://www.studentmarket.com/studentmarket/aboutsat.html

The ability to predict freshman grades is the backbone of the SAT's claim to measure aptitude. In the world of psychometrics, the valid aptitude test is one that can predict a person's performance.
http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/sat.shtml


nope I see alot both my brother and I work for Fortune 500+ companies (+ being less)

I will agree many that are not think they are genius, esp. the ones that talk about being one all the time are usually the furthest from the truth.

Yeah, look who's claiming to have an IQ of over 150.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Landroval
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Looney
It's not what i believe, it's what it's intention is. SATs are APTITUDE tests...

ok with that statement you definitely are not of high IQ. You are weak also since you will defend it.... I do believe you may be the typical psych 101 student.

Originally posted by: Looney
No, the only geniuses you're seeing are in this thread

nope I see alot both my brother and I work for Fortune 500+ companies (+ being less)

I will agree many that are not think they are genius, esp. the ones that talk about being one all the time are usually the furthest from the truth.

There are also the one's that swear their paste eating kids are the next Bill Gates.


There is a correlation between how well one does in the FIRST YEAR of college and their SAT. Isn't it a little suspicious that people take SAT multiple times and get higher scores or pay money for a prep course and increase their score by a few hundred points? IQ is supposed to be relatively stable throughout life (with the exception of childhood IQ tests often being somewhat overinflated because of the age adjustments).

That's part of the controversy... if you can train and get better, then can it really be measuring aptitude? And like i said earlier, on average, 70% of these questions are achievement based questions.

Some people still say it does... because prepping for a test, may increase it slightly, but it's not so significant that it makes the test useless. And because test prepping are so prevalent these days, that when they do the sampling of the tests, it should be reflected in the standardizing of it.

I'm not defending these tests... if you guys would read my first post, i said i wasn't a fan of it. I'm just explaining what these tests are and how they work.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: rezinn
I got 126 on that test, but I haven't slept and didn't understand a couple questions. I normally score in the mid 130s on internet tests, and that's what I scored when I was younger on a real test.

according to this: http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/GREIQ.html my IQ should be around 149.
and this: http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/SATIQ.html 135 when I was in high school.

Who knows how accurate that stuff is, though. I learned in a black psychology class that IQ test basically measure how well you've assimilated into "white" culture

Or in other words, it measures intelligence.

The SAT->IQ comparison chart was dead on for my IQ. The SAT obviously isn't an IQ test, but I think there's probably a pretty good correlation between IQ and SAT score. There were people I went to school with who got better grades than I did, but had to work much harder. Their SAT scores were several hundred points lower than mine.
 

GiLtY

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<dessman> man both Tesla and Newton were lifelong virgins
<dessman> am i the only one who sees the link?
<m0nd0m> you believe you're going to be a great scientist?

--GiLtY
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: 2cpuminimum
Usually I ask her things like "where are my keys?", "Did you feed the dogs already today or should I?", "What would you like for breakfast?", "Would you like me to bake cookies or brownies?", "Would you like me to make a pan-fried pizza?", and such. It turns out that my keys are in the kitchen.
And of course I ask myself "Did I leave the oven on?"

:thumbsup:

Last couple we had here I was in the 154-160 range myself. I am extremly lazy though so it's all wasted... Where are my keys BTW? always loosing them...
 

Landroval

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: rezinn
I got 126 on that test, but I haven't slept and didn't understand a couple questions. I normally score in the mid 130s on internet tests, and that's what I scored when I was younger on a real test.

according to this: http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/GREIQ.html my IQ should be around 149.
and this: http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/SATIQ.html 135 when I was in high school.

Who knows how accurate that stuff is, though. I learned in a black psychology class that IQ test basically measure how well you've assimilated into "white" culture

Or in other words, it measures intelligence.

The SAT->IQ comparison chart was dead on for my IQ. The SAT obviously isn't an IQ test, but I think there's probably a pretty good correlation between IQ and SAT score. There were people I went to school with who got better grades than I did, but had to work much harder. Their SAT scores were several hundred points lower than mine.

Yes, but since some people prep for it and take it multiple times to increase their score, it clearly is more variable than an IQ test is alleged to be. People who do not prep for it and take it one time would be at a significant disadvantage than those who practiced, were coached and/or took it multiple times. On the other hand, IQ is *supposed* to measure raw ability.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Looney
That's part of the controversy... if you can train and get better, then can it really be measuring aptitude? And like i said earlier, on average, 70% of these questions are achievement based questions.

Some people still say it does... because prepping for a test, may increase it slightly, but it's not so significant that it makes the test useless. And because test prepping are so prevalent these days, that when they do the sampling of the tests, it should be reflected in the standardizing of it.

I'm not defending these tests... if you guys would read my first post, i said i wasn't a fan of it. I'm just explaining what these tests are and how they work.

Aptitude is more of a generic type of word, in the sense of SAT's it's measuring your skillset. It's rarely used in my experience to measure one's capacity...although it is a fine word for that.

Those that SAT / ACT prep learn what college the first two years is looking for. Them scoring higher should equal a higher grade in their AA stages. However, I scored high in 1988 and 1989, but wasn't a prepper nor one to do my homework....I made A's in my organic chem and comparative anatomy (junior level) class and got a C in my art appreciation and health.

However, IQ tests aren't so rote knowledge and as such it's nearly impossible to increase your score over a lifetime.
 
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