Lets see how important the CPU is, anyone with a 6600GT/s939/s754/intel rig wanna bench F.E.A.R MP Demo?

[Inappropriate4AT]

Just tested with the 81.85's:

Intel Mobile Celeron @ 2.81ghz 187mhz fsb
Abit IS7 865PE, 350watt Rosewill generic, AV-710 sound
2x512mb Corsair pc3200 2.5-3-3-7 Dual Channel
Rosewill 6600GT @ 500/900 81.85

Settings as described:
20/19/19 minimum
35/36/36 average
82/72/71 maximum

12/11/11% below 25
65/67/64% 25-40
23/22/25% above 40

I don't believe the drivers themselves made such a big impact as just clean installing them. It might've just been a bad install of the 78.01s to begin with, because overall gameplay just seemed rather sluggish over the passed few days, I'll reinstall the 78.01s sometime and run it again to confirm.

 

[NatePo717]

I can do this when I get home.

My system specs are in my profile. I'm using Omega drivers and haven't tried benching them yet.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Inappropriate4AT
Intel Mobile Celeron @ 2.81ghz 187mhz fsb
Abit IS7 865PE, 350watt Rosewill generic, AV-710 sound
2x512mb Corsair pc3200 2.5-3-3-7 Dual Channel
Rosewill 6600GT @ 500/900 78.01

Settings as described:
14 minimum
26 average
59 maximum

50% below 25
39% 25-40
11% above 40

if you have time, here are the 81.85s.

http://nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_81.85.html

i did a 500/900 to compare, but i think there's a big difference between the 78.01s and 78.01s, since i can't imagine my platform is THAT much faster than yours

my scores: Now to compare with Inappropriate4AT, i clocked down to 500/900. (using the 81.85s). Average of four runs.

18.75 FPS min
33.25 FPS avg
81.5 FPS max

below 25 fps - 28.5%
25-40 fps - 47.75%
above 40 fps - 23.75%

So dug, your tbred is blowing away his much faster clocked celery?

dug, why not consider just lowering your rez all the way down and take the results to compare to the higher rez.

That way you'll find a baseline for your CPU, then as you compare to the higher rez numbers you'll see how much your gfx card is holding you back.

I think that would be more meaningful info. If your baseline numbers (fps) are so low as to be unacceptible, then your CPU bottlenecking is severe. A better gfx card would not overcome it.

If the baseline numbers are acceptable, but the numbers/fps fall to unacceptable levels at the higher rez, it's really an issue of gfx card bottlenecking. Here a better gfx card would help, it could at least bring you backup to the baseline numbers.

Fern

 

[Qbah]

Looks like the 2.8GHz Celeron fared better. Look at his below 25fps percentage... 11% for the Intel one and 28.5% for the AMD platform... The AMD platform had less than half of fps between 25 and 40. The Intel one had almost 2/3 Most impressive!

 

[Fern]

Looks to me like 50% below 25fps for the Intel vs 28.5% for dug777 ?

I.e., I'm reading it as the "bolded" numbers are dug's

 

[martinez]

Ok I ran the benchmark and got my average of three scores.

My system
Leadtek extreme 6600GT clocked 550/1120, 3500+ Clawhammer@stock 2.2Ghz (939), 2 gig value RAM in dual channel, 550W Antec Truepower, Seagate NCQ 120 gig HDD, 81.84 drivers

Min-------26FPS
Avg------43FPS
Max------84FPS

FPS Distribution %

0% below 25FPS
60% between 25-40FPS
40% above 40 FPS

Seems the difference between Athlon 64 and dual channel RAM is fairly significant. I might get better results with only one gig of RAM in some cases, because I have 4x512 so running at 2T (I bought before knowing the difference:roll: )

 

[Super56K]

Here's your settings dug777 I couldn't tell much of a difference at all between my settiings below, and these settings. Other than the fps scores.

21 min
40 average
84 max

5% below 20
58% 25-40
37% above 40

I'll add my own figures into this benchmark. I posted this originally in the FEAR thread in Software/Programming section, but haven't had any replies about it. I tweaked a ton of settings and found out that if I cranked up nearly everything(had textures, video medium; no AA, Water Medium, all else at the high settings) at a resolution of 12x10 I would have a totally playable setting. I want to get an average of the benches first and post the results properly though.

Important aspects of rig are:

Mobile Athlon processor at 2305ghz (200x11.5)
1 gig Buffalo pc3200 in dual channel
Evga 6600gt at 567/1.0ghz

Here are the 12x10 results
min: 28
avg: 67
max: 146

80% of fps above 40

The game looks sweet at these settings, but you can still tell it's lacking AA. No matter what I try AA is impossible to use in this game for me without killing my fps.

 

[Sjokoprins]

Ok well i overclocked my AMD64 3000+ (venice) to 2450 mhz, ram to 434, 2,5-3-3-8 and vidcard leadtek 6600GT to 550/1100 and the results (used your settings):

min= 26 fps
average= 62 fps
max= 124 fps

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

Overclocking from 1800mhz to 2450mhz yielded in HL2 and CoD approx. 30% !!
So the AMD64 scales very well !
Haven't checked higher resolutions yet

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Sjokoprins
Ok well i overclocked my AMD64 3000+ (venice) to 2450 mhz, ram to 434, 2,5-3-3-8 and vidcard leadtek 6600GT to 550/1100 and the results (used your settings):

min= 26 fps
average= 62 fps
max= 124 fps

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

Overclocking from 1800mhz to 2450mhz yielded in HL2 and CoD approx. 30% !!
So the AMD64 scales very well !
Haven't checked higher resolutions yet

Wow! Your average is anywhere between about 65% and 85% faster than Dug's average, depending on which of his numbers you look at. Looks like the CPU might be a very important factor for FEAR then...and that doesn't bode well for me that I'm still on an Athlon XP (although at 2.4GHz)...

 

[Sjokoprins]

Ok sorry forgot to mention:

Drivers 78.01
1 gig ram
80 gig harddisk ata100

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Sjokoprins
Ok well i overclocked my AMD64 3000+ (venice) to 2450 mhz, ram to 434, 2,5-3-3-8 and vidcard leadtek 6600GT to 550/1100 and the results (used your settings):

min= 26 fps
average= 62 fps
max= 124 fps

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

Overclocking from 1800mhz to 2450mhz yielded in HL2 and CoD approx. 30% !!
So the AMD64 scales very well !
Haven't checked higher resolutions yet

Wow! Your average is anywhere between about 65% and 85% faster than Dug's average, depending on which of his numbers you look at. Looks like the CPU might be a very important factor for FEAR then...and that doesn't bode well for me that I'm still on an Athlon XP (although at 2.4GHz)...

yeah thats a lot. how does it do at stock cpu? Cheers for doing this btw mate

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: martinez
Ok I ran the benchmark and got my average of three scores.

My system
Leadtek extreme 6600GT clocked 550/1120, 3500+ Clawhammer@stock 2.2Ghz (939), 2 gig value RAM in dual channel, 550W Antec Truepower, Seagate NCQ 120 gig HDD, 81.84 drivers

Min-------26FPS
Avg------43FPS
Max------84FPS

FPS Distribution %

0% below 25FPS
60% between 25-40FPS
40% above 40 FPS

Seems the difference between Athlon 64 and dual channel RAM is fairly significant. I might get better results with only one gig of RAM in some cases, because I have 4x512 so running at 2T (I bought before knowing the difference:roll: )

cheers mate, much more comparable with my scores than that guy at 2.45ghz, at least in tems of the avg, but your %s are much more healthy than mine at the bottom end

 

[Keysplayr]

Are ya interested in seeing benches for a P4 2.66/533, 1GB mem, Vanilla 6600?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

X2 3800+@2.35ghz 10x235 1.3v
2x512mb OCZ Performance DDR400@213mhz dual channel 2-3-3-10 1T 2.8v
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI w/integrated SBLive 24bit hardware audio
eVGA 6600GT@561/1.12 FW 78.01's F.E.A.R. 3 run load temp=51c thanx to AC6 rev.2+Ceramique
SATA2 Deathstar 250GB

FPS:
Minimum: 26
Average: 41
Maximum: 84

FPS Distribution:
0% below 25FPS
63% between 25 and 40 FPS
37% above 40FPS

 

[imported_BadKarma]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Are ya interested in seeing benches for a P4 2.66/533, 1GB mem, Vanilla 6600?

Go for it. I'm interested in seeing your results.
Here are my numbers.
System @ stock
AMD64 3000+ Winny @ 1.8Ghz
1Gig Mushkin Value Ram (512 x 2)
Leadtech 6600GT @ Stock (Forceware 81.85)

Setting:
Same as dug777's.

20 min
38 average
77.5 max

9% below 20
64% between 25-40
27% above 40


Here are the numbers when the CPU is overclocked.
AMD64 3000+ Winny @ 2.4Ghz
Leadtech 6600GT @ Stock 500/1000

20 min
38 average
81.6 max

9% below 20
66% between 25-40
27.6% above 40


CPU and VIDEO overclocked
AMD64 3000+ Winny @ 2.4Ghz
Leadtech 6600GT @ Stock 550/1100

22 min
41.6 average
85 max

3% below 20
58.6% between 25-40
28.3% above 40



My system is pretty similar to Sjokoprins, but I'm not seeing a comparable result. I must be doing something wrong when overclocking.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Hmm...everyone else's results seem to be a lot closer to Dug's than the high results posted by Sjokoprins...I wonder if he was using different settings or something? Because if you throw out his results, it looks like even those with A64's at or near 2.4GHz are only averaging just above 40fps, which is only a few frames higher than Dug's results. Maybe the CPU isn't as important after all.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Sjokoprins
Ok well i overclocked my AMD64 3000+ (venice) to 2450 mhz, ram to 434, 2,5-3-3-8 and vidcard leadtek 6600GT to 550/1100 and the results (used your settings):

min= 26 fps
average= 62 fps
max= 124 fps

0% below 25 fps
15% between 25 and 40 fps
85% above 40 fps

Overclocking from 1800mhz to 2450mhz yielded in HL2 and CoD approx. 30% !!
So the AMD64 scales very well !
Haven't checked higher resolutions yet

Wow! Your average is anywhere between about 65% and 85% faster than Dug's average, depending on which of his numbers you look at. Looks like the CPU might be a very important factor for FEAR then...and that doesn't bode well for me that I'm still on an Athlon XP (although at 2.4GHz)...

His testing is borked, it is way too high on avg&max compared to the rest of us. If he set his AF manually in the nV settings to something lower, it could be to blame. Perhaps he just missed upping the res. or something though? Just no way that his system can produce those FPS at the required settings after looking at the others in this small pool we have here.

EDIT: lmao looks like we agree already

 

[SonicIce]

Got 2800+ Newcastle 754 @ 2.2GHz and Leadtek 6600 GT. Will test soon .

 

[Lufusol]

Sorry, I just have the SP demo. Can tell ya tho, and sorry if I'm repeating my specs cause I can't remember how I set up my sig here at anand, but on my secondary machine, P4 2.66, 1x512 ddr333 at 2.5/7-3-3 and a 9500np @ 350/315, it runs very well.

I'll download and try it on this main rig (3@3.8ghz pressie/6600GT) and get back to you.. if I remember where this thread is

-luf

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Did a quick run with all settings identical except trilinear instead of 8xAF and got the following SS

AF can be used without a big hit on the 6600GT, so well worthwhile to do so. I noticed the lack of AF big time when passing the steel floor grate between the 2 guys that are firing through the shelves.

Tried 16xAF and it finally dropped below 25fps in the bench SS 9% of the time, with 3% coming from the 25-40 , and 6% coming from over 40.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
X2 3800+@2.35ghz 10x235 1.3v
2x512mb OCZ Performance DDR400@213mhz dual channel 2-3-3-10 1T 2.8v
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI w/integrated SBLive 24bit hardware audio
eVGA 6600GT@561/1.12 FW 78.01's F.E.A.R. 3 run load temp=51c thanx to AC6 rev.2+Ceramique
SATA2 Deathstar 250GB

FPS:
Minimum: 26
Average: 41
Maximum: 84

FPS Distribution:
0% below 25FPS
63% between 25 and 40 FPS
37% above 40FPS

see i'm thinking this and Bad Karma's results are far more realistic than the uber fast dude...something isn't right with that one i think...

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Are ya interested in seeing benches for a P4 2.66/533, 1GB mem, Vanilla 6600?

love to

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Are ya interested in seeing benches for a P4 2.66/533, 1GB mem, Vanilla 6600?

love to

No Prob. I'll have some marks tomorrow after work. I need to pick up another GB of RAM for my main box. FEAR seems to PEG my memory usage at 1.08GB and I am getting a lot of hitching/page file thrashing. Annoying. Is this the thing the 81.85 beta's are supposed to fix? Or is there really a RAM shortage even with a GB of memory?

I'll find out tomorrow and post about it.

 

[martinez]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
X2 3800+@2.35ghz 10x235 1.3v
2x512mb OCZ Performance DDR400@213mhz dual channel 2-3-3-10 1T 2.8v
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI w/integrated SBLive 24bit hardware audio
eVGA 6600GT@561/1.12 FW 78.01's F.E.A.R. 3 run load temp=51c thanx to AC6 rev.2+Ceramique
SATA2 Deathstar 250GB

FPS:
Minimum: 26
Average: 41
Maximum: 84

FPS Distribution:
0% below 25FPS
63% between 25 and 40 FPS
37% above 40FPS

see i'm thinking this and Bad Karma's results are far more realistic than the uber fast dude...something isn't right with that one i think...

Hmmm, my results are very similar to his with an X2, which is a bit surprising.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: martinez

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
X2 3800+@2.35ghz 10x235 1.3v
2x512mb OCZ Performance DDR400@213mhz dual channel 2-3-3-10 1T 2.8v
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI w/integrated SBLive 24bit hardware audio
eVGA 6600GT@561/1.12 FW 78.01's F.E.A.R. 3 run load temp=51c thanx to AC6 rev.2+Ceramique
SATA2 Deathstar 250GB

FPS:
Minimum: 26
Average: 41
Maximum: 84

FPS Distribution:
0% below 25FPS
63% between 25 and 40 FPS
37% above 40FPS

see i'm thinking this and Bad Karma's results are far more realistic than the uber fast dude...something isn't right with that one i think...

Hmmm, my results are very similar to his with an X2, which is a bit surprising.

have you got the 81.84 or 81.85 drivers? They use dual core AFAIK. But i think that we are mainly gpu limited at this stage.