Lets see how important the CPU is, anyone with a 6600GT/s939/s754/intel rig wanna bench F.E.A.R MP Demo?

[martinez]

I just ran the tests again(twice, 3 times for avg) to see if I'd stuffed up somehow, but I'm getting at worst case 60% between 25-40FPS and 40% >40FPS. Funny, I asked for this kind of thing to be done with AoE3 Demo. I wanted a comparison between what I have and a 6600GT SLI, and/or a 7800GT or GTX rig. All I got in response was a bunch of people telling me how stupid I was for getting 6600GT SLI etc. When all I wanted was a comparison . I haven't decided which upgrade to take, all I know is I need to up my framerate in that game from low 20's to 40+ as a minimum.

 

[jeffa66]

Hi i wanted to run the tests u guys have on my rig but im uber noob to this whole thing could u guys tell me what programs u use and maybe where to get them? thanx

 

[martinez]

This particular test is in the demo. But for any benchmarking you want to do outside of built in time demos, use fraps. Just google it, download it, install it and run it. It should be pretty self explanatory from there, cause I'm a noob too, and I figured it out.

 

[Sjokoprins]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: martinez

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
X2 3800+@2.35ghz 10x235 1.3v
2x512mb OCZ Performance DDR400@213mhz dual channel 2-3-3-10 1T 2.8v
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI w/integrated SBLive 24bit hardware audio
eVGA 6600GT@561/1.12 FW 78.01's F.E.A.R. 3 run load temp=51c thanx to AC6 rev.2+Ceramique
SATA2 Deathstar 250GB

FPS:
Minimum: 26
Average: 41
Maximum: 84

FPS Distribution:
0% below 25FPS
63% between 25 and 40 FPS
37% above 40FPS

see i'm thinking this and Bad Karma's results are far more realistic than the uber fast dude...something isn't right with that one i think...

Hmmm, my results are very similar to his with an X2, which is a bit surprising.

have you got the 81.84 or 81.85 drivers? They use dual core AFAIK. But i think that we are mainly gpu limited at this stage.

Hello everyone,

It seems that my max. is a bit off compared to you guys. If i remember i did run at 1024x768, AF 8x and high quality settings. Game setting are all max.
Vidcard could be at 550/1125 instead of 1100.
But i could missed something so will run the test in a couple of days to check things out.
Keep you posted.

By the way clock for clock in games the Xp is nothing compared to the amd64 there is simply a huge difference.
When i see that the results of Dug777 in his original post is 95 fps max and the amd64's do 85 max. then i think something is wrong.
Simple fact is that the fps on amd64 must be higher then on XP.
I had an xp2500+ overclocked to 2250 mhz but the amd64 is much better

Laters

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Sjokoprins
Hello everyone,

It seems that my max. is a bit off compared to you guys. If i remember i did run at 1024x768, AF 8x and high quality settings. Game setting are all max.
Vidcard could be at 550/1125 instead of 1100.
But i could missed something so will run the test in a couple of days to check things out.
Keep you posted.

By the way clock for clock in games the Xp is nothing compared to the amd64 there is simply a huge difference.
When i see that the results of Dug777 in his original post is 95 fps max and the amd64's do 85 max. then i think something is wrong.
Simple fact is that the fps on amd64 must be higher then on XP.
I had an xp2500+ overclocked to 2250 mhz but the amd64 is much better

Laters

You ran@8x6, that was the problem. I just kept all settings but reduced to 8x6 and our numbers are suddenly inline with each other

F.E.A.R., @10x7 with all the eye candy on, is too much for a 128mb 6600GT.

I'd suggest trying 8x6 with the XPs and see if that creates a larger gap in performance. If not, then even@8x6 with max settings minus Soft Shadows, the 6600GT is likely the bottleneck.

 

[martinez]

Yeah you're right. I just ran at those settings and got...

Min 30FPS
Avg 77FPS
Max 178FPS

0%<25FPS
22% 25-40FPS
78%>40FPS

 

[Skippper]

Hi!
I will make the test on this config:Leadtek Winfast PX6600GT/TDH(OC @ 607/1420) Amd Athlon 64 s939 3000+(OC @ 2500) 2*512 MB Kingmax SuperRam (OC @ 467 (2.5,3,3,5) Chaintech Zenith VNF4 s939 mutha-bored! Will post the results soon.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Skippper
Hi!
I will make the test on this config:Leadtek Winfast PX6600GT/TDH(OC @ 607/1420) Amd Athlon 64 s939 3000+(OC @ 2500) 2*512 MB Kingmax SuperRam (OC @ 467 (2.5,3,3,5) Chaintech Zenith VNF4 s939 mutha-bored! Will post the results soon.

:Q holy mother that is a nice oc on your 6600GT :Q

 

[noni]

I have the 6800NU 256MB PCIe , this is about identical to 6600GT in terms of performance.

My specs:
Pentium 3.4EE (extreme embarrassment), 1.5 Gb Corsair Value, 80Gb SATA drive, geforce 6800NU drivers 77.72.

The mobile celeron has similar results. Either the CPU is not a big factor or i need to try drivers 78.01.

Stock @ 325/600 OC @ 400/750
min 19 10% min 24 1%
avg 37 57% avg 46 44%
max 83 33% max 97 55%

 

[dug777]

x777 i just checked and i was at 1.05 not 1.145 on the mem, so i'll run that again

 

[dug777]

Min 18.6FPS
Avg 37.8FPS
Max 94.6FPS

20%<25FPS
46.6% 25-40FPS
33.4%>40FPS

Avg of five runs @ 570/1145...at 1024 original settings in OP.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: martinez
Yeah you're right. I just ran at those settings and got...

Min 30FPS
Avg 77FPS
Max 178FPS

0%<25FPS
22% 25-40FPS
78%>40FPS

570/1145, 1024, settings as in OP;

Min 18.6FPS
Avg 37.8FPS
Max 94.6FPS

20%<25FPS
46.6% 25-40FPS
33.4%>40FPS

I drop to 800x600 and, hehe now i'm cpu/mem bound

Min 19FPS
Avg 46FPS
Max 124FPS

16%<25FPS
40% 25-40FPS
42%>40FPS

It looks like ass imo at 8x6, and with such a small gain in performance (to my eye the demo was not noticeably smoother) i'm sticking to 1024...where i'm not hugely cpu bound. Seems like it's the sweet spot for my Axp rig, cpu and gfx card both maxed out.

A bit off topic, i get a noticeable stutter when you move from the gunfight through to the water room, both at 1024 and at 800...maybe that's because i only have 1 gb of ram?

EDIT: my 1280x960 scores for good measure (no other settings changed).

Min 16FPS
Avg 28.75FPS
Max 67FPS

43.5%<25FPS
38.5% 25-40FPS
18%>40FPS

 

[SonicIce]

According to anandtechs benchies, this game is almost never CPU bound even with a 7800 GTX at 640x480 :Q thats without AA/AF or soft shadows. take a look at that huge ramp
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2575&p=4

 

[SynthDude2001]

Alright, I ran the benchmark myself, and Dug requested that I post my results here for comparison even though I've got a different video card

My system is a 2.4GHz Athlon XP T-Bred B (219x11), dual channel PC3200 RAM (11-2-2-2), 6800GT @ Ultra (400/1100)..other details can be found in the rig link in my sig if you care.

800x600, average of my last 3 runs (all of these results were using the same settings that Dug specified in the OP)

Min 24.7FPS
Avg 76FPS
Max 201FPS

0.3%<25FPS
12.7% 25-40FPS
87%>40FPS

1024x768, average of three runs

Min 31FPS
Avg 59.7FPS
Max 138.7FPS

0%<25FPS
23% 25-40FPS
77% >40FPS

And finally, 1280x960 (again, average of three runs)

Min 19FPS
Avg 44FPS
Max 96.7FPS

4.3%<25FPS
46.7% 25-40FPS
49%>40FPS

Edit: For completeness, I also ran it a few times with the drivers on Quality instead of High Quality, and not surprisingly the numbers were a bit higher:

1024x768 32/66/145/0%/11%/89%
1280x960 19/47/99/3%/42%/55%

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: dug777
A bit off topic, i get a noticeable stutter when you move from the gunfight through to the water room, both at 1024 and at 800...maybe that's because i only have 1 gb of ram?

I got the exact same thing, at the same place (and also at one specific point when you're leaving the water room and about to knock over the boxes). I didn't think to check my RAM usage during the benchmarking, but it happened at all resolutions, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were a lack of RAM thing...

 

[martinez]

Well, you could be right, but I noticed no stuttering at all during that benchmark Demo(just watched it a few more times). I do have 2 gig of RAM.

It does look much worse at 800x600. And yeah that is a beastly OC on the Leadtek.

 

[Aquila76]

I have SLI'd 6600GT's on a 3500+ @stock w/ 1GB (2x512MB) OCZ EL Plat. Rev. 2 @ 2-2-2-6.
I get the following:
Min: 30
Avg: 58
Max: 145

0% <25FPS
13% 25-40FPS
87% >40FPS

EDIT=====
OC'd the GT's to 583/1.16 and got:
Min: 31
Avg: 65
Max: 166

0% <25FPS
11% 25-40FPS
89% >40FPS

Not much significantly changed but the max FPS (+21 - likely during the empty hallway scene). It did seem to flow a little smoother, tho. I guess the +7 avg. FPS helped out a bit.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: martinez
Well, you could be right, but I noticed no stuttering at all during that benchmark Demo(just watched it a few more times). I do have 2 gig of RAM.

That sounds about right then - Dug and I both have "only" 1GB of RAM.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Aquila76
I have SLI'd 6600GT's on a 3500+ @stock w/ 1GB (2x512MB) OCZ EL Plat. Rev. 2 @ 2-2-2-6.
I get the following:
Min: 30
Avg: 58
Max: 145

0% <25FPS
13% 25-40FPS
87% >40FPS

EDIT=====
OC'd the GT's to 583/1.16 and got:
Min: 31
Avg: 65
Max: 166

0% <25FPS
11% 25-40FPS
89% >40FPS

Not much significantly changed but the max FPS (+21 - likely during the empty hallway scene). It did seem to flow a little smoother, tho. I guess the +7 avg. FPS helped out a bit.

Your results look almost exactly like mine (which makes sense, since SLI 6600GT's are more or less equal to a 6800GT/Ultra)

 

[martinez]

Originally posted by: Aquila76
I have SLI'd 6600GT's on a 3500+ @stock w/ 1GB (2x512MB) OCZ EL Plat. Rev. 2 @ 2-2-2-6.
I get the following:
Min: 30
Avg: 58
Max: 145

0% <25FPS
13% 25-40FPS
87% >40FPS

EDIT=====
OC'd the GT's to 583/1.16 and got:
Min: 31
Avg: 65
Max: 166

0% <25FPS
11% 25-40FPS
89% >40FPS

Not much significantly changed but the max FPS (+21 - likely during the empty hallway scene). It did seem to flow a little smoother, tho. I guess the +7 avg. FPS helped out a bit.

Mate, is there any way you could run some fraps benches of AoE3 demo 1.1 with your system. If I got another 6600GT I would have a very similar set up to you, and I'm finding it hard to get a gauge on the added performance I'll get. You can D/load the demo here..

https://forum.agecommunity.com/ibb/posts.aspx?postID=18679

I made a thread similar to this one here....

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1717239&enterthread=y

I understand it's asking alot, but you might enjoy the game, you never know

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: martinez

Originally posted by: Aquila76

...

Mate, is there any way you could run some fraps benches of AoE3 demo 1.1 with your system. If I got another 6600GT I would have a very similar set up to you, and I'm finding it hard to get a gauge on the added performance I'll get. You can D/load the demo here..

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://forum.agecommunity.com/ibb/posts.aspx?postID=18679">https://forum.agecommunity.com/ibb/posts.aspx?postID=18679</a>

I made a thread similar to this one here....

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1717239&enterthread=y

I understand it's asking alot, but you might enjoy the game, you never know

Let me try that out. That's a game a buddy of mine has been looking at and is trying to decide between one or two GT's.

 

[SniperREX]

I have a XFX 6600GT @558/1040 on a 3500+ @stock 1GB (2x512MB) OCZ EL Platinum Rev. 2 @ 2-2-2-6, DFI SLI-DR
Forceware 78.05
I used the retail game with patch 1.01, because I already disinstalled the demo.
Original setting in OP.

Min: 20
Avg: 38
Max: 81

8% <25FPS
60% 25-40FPS
32% >40FPS


Just installed the new forceware 81.85. Time for new bench .

 

[noni]

well i experience the stutter at the same spot and i have 1.5 Gb of memory.

 

[SniperREX]

Min: 25
Avg: 40
Max: 80

0% <25FPS
63% 25-40FPS
37% >40FPS

Nice improvement .

 

[H0witzer]

Hey Dug, I know this might sound kinda stupid but how the heck do you measure and record you frame rates?