Let's talk about Death

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bradley

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The reason for most diseases and eventual death: oxidation, inflammation, calcification and the lack of oxygenation, hydration and circulation. Only after we address those factors can our overall genetic potential be fully realized.

Perhaps one day we will see people routinely living to be 120-130 years-old along with an excellent quality of life. How to fill those mundane spaces inbetween or even desiring to live with such longevity is entirely another question.
 

njdevilsfan87

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Death is scary because its a one way trip into the unknown all by yourself. There's no coming back from it. I'm not sure I want to be aware of my final passing moments.

Why I find it scary is because I don't believe in lights out forever. Because our universe somehow exists with me inside of it. If this universe spawned from nothing (even more crazy than String Theory) then the possibilities are infinite. I may not exist for some unfathomably long period of "time", but that won't feel like anything - just like before I was born. And whatever comes after - I don't believe I will remember this life. Honestly, it would almost be easier for me to not believe in something. Eternal sleep sounds easy. But something? That what scares the shit out of me when I really think about death.

With that said, it's interesting that we are wired to almost completely ignore it until it or almost happens. But how could we live otherwise? The only thing you can do is just enjoy now.
 
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StinkyPinky

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Death is scary because its a one way trip into the unknown all by yourself. There's no coming back from it. I'm not sure I want to be aware of my final passing moments.

Why I find it scary is because I don't believe in lights out forever. Because our universe somehow exists with me inside of it. If this universe spawned from nothing (even more crazy than String Theory) then the possibilities are infinite. I may not exist for some unfathomably long period of "time", but that won't feel like anything - just like before I was born. And whatever comes after - I don't believe I will remember this life. Honestly, it would almost be easier for me to not believe in something. Eternal sleep sounds easy. But something? That what scares the shit out of me when I really think about death.

With that said, it's interesting that we are wired to almost completely ignore it until it or almost happens. But how could we live otherwise?

Which is the same as oblivion then. If you don't remember your current life, then it is the same thing.
 

njdevilsfan87

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Oblivion it is then. Ignorance is bliss. It has to be like that. If people knew for certain there are multiple lives to be lived, we'd see people more offing themselves left and right hoping the next one is more favorable. And then as society we'd end up getting nowhere.
 

rsbennett00

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Let's Talk About Death. Awesome song.

Let's talk about death ba-by. Let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may-be. Let's talk about de-ath, let's talk about death.
 

Jeff7

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Perhaps, if you spent less time posting on AT and more time doing something worthy of remembrance that wouldn't be the case? Only those that strive for greatness will obtain it.
The AT server probably uses RAID, and it might have regular backups. The posts here could potentially last longer than the results from spending time elsewhere.





The only thing that makes me sad is that my family will have to pay to do something with my body. Why can't we just "go out to pasture" or sign some paper that allows us to dig a hole and chuck our bodies in there. What a waste of money.

I originally had instructions that if possible, go in with another family and get me a 2-for-1 deal at the burn barrel, but then my mortician MIL said that mixing of cremains is illegal. WTF, mixing ashes is illegal.

Fuck this country and their ridiculous religious laws.
This sort of thing came to mind the other day (a relative is in the hospital with flu or pneumonia, and she's in her 90s).
We have lots of weird rituals concerning death, with and without religion.

I was thinking about the whole "viewing" thing.
"I know what'll make everyone feel better! Let's dress up the corpse all nice and show it off to everyone!" You know, really drive home the "this person is dead" thing.

How about let the dead body be somewhere else, and have a nice funeral, maybe with some with photos around of the person back when they were still alive.



If my corpse is going to have to be on display, at least be kind enough to prop me up in a realistic pose as people remembered me......so sitting at a computer, neffing away.

:hmm:
Yes, let's just stick with "neffing."




Death is scary because its a one way trip into the unknown all by yourself. There's no coming back from it. I'm not sure I want to be aware of my final passing moments.

Why I find it scary is because I don't believe in lights out forever. Because our universe somehow exists with me inside of it. If this universe spawned from nothing (even more crazy than String Theory) then the possibilities are infinite. I may not exist for some unfathomably long period of "time", but that won't feel like anything - just like before I was born. And whatever comes after - I don't believe I will remember this life. Honestly, it would almost be easier for me to not believe in something. Eternal sleep sounds easy. But something? That what scares the shit out of me when I really think about death.

With that said, it's interesting that we are wired to almost completely ignore it until it or almost happens. But how could we live otherwise? The only thing you can do is just enjoy now.
The Universe was probably spawned from something. Problem is, we don't have a good way of describing it. For example, you can move forward along time's arrow, and people talk about moving backward. What if, instead of those directions, you moved to the right instead? What kind of dimension would you call that?
And normal physics that our bubble of spacetime follows get damn screwy when you start asking things like "What if I compressed the Universe to a ball the size of an alternator?" Sorry, you just broke physics. Let's call it a "singularity."

Infinite possibilities: Why does the Universe's origin automatically mean infinite possibilities? There's also the matter of probability. Some things are theoretically possible, but they are so improbable that they are, for any practical purpose, impossible.


Here's an interesting idea: Time for your consciousness is an undefined function.
For you, time only exists as long as you are aware of it. Before you were born, what did you think of reality? Nothing. "You" were not in existence, so you couldn't perceive or remember anything. Likewise, when you die, that processing again returns to the realm of "doesn't exist."


Thinking about what death "feels like" or "is like" is likely similar to what a computer would feel if it tries to divide by zero. It is difficult to think about because it's a practical impossibility: Death isn't a thing that can be experienced, as it is the complete lack of experiences. Our brains don't like that divide-by-zero scenario, so a lot of us bypass it by saying "Zero doesn't exist."
 
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disappoint

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Go home Jeff7, you're drunk. LOL. If you tell me you're sober and serious about that post, and you want me to point out all the logical fallacies your pickled consciousness figuratively vomited into your post, I can. Just say the word. Otherwise I'll just bid you farewell with this final message: Enjoy your Friday night
 
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njdevilsfan87

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Infinite possibilities: Why does the Universe's origin automatically mean infinite possibilities? There's also the matter of probability. Some things are theoretically possible, but they are so improbable that they are, for any practical purpose, impossible.

I'm not saying we're are going to be flying spaghetti monsters in the next universe with no relocation of being humans in this one! I did not say that!

I also agree with probability too. I'll just leave it at. Anything more just starts getting way too philosophical and even religious crazy.
 
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Nograts

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OP, you're not suffering from depression, are you?

Nope! I'm actually a pretty happy person.

I just wanted to hear thoughts on this subject since we all have to take the plunge one day, plus I re read riverworld.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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To borrow a quote

"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome."
 

tortoise

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In the context of the cosmos, our existence may have less significance than an ant fart. Looks like whatever remains of our elements will eventually get recycled through a black hole.
 

sportage

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Anandtech goes down every Sunday morning and unavailable for hours.
Now That's death.
 

xaeniac

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as you get older you think about death. death is coming soon be ready.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I think about death quite a bit. It's depressing knowing that when I die, all of my amazing thoughts will be the first things to disappear. That's why I choose to inhabit highly successful internet forums likely to preserve my thoughts well past my passing.
 

compuwiz1

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Do we really die anymore, or does our energy and essence just change form? Energy never leaves and thoughts never die. They just re-implement themselves wherever the flow takes them. Death is a false hood. It doesn't happen. And then.....we go to the spirit in the sky. He decides where we will next provide our skills, our conscience, our humanity, or our bitch or bastard. We don't get to decide our next move, once our soul has departed. All we can decide is how we will behave in the next life, once our life in the present is spent.
 

Jeff7

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I'm not saying we're are going to be flying spaghetti monsters in the next universe with no relocation of being humans in this one! I did not say that!

I also agree with probability too. I'll just leave it at. Anything more just starts getting way too philosophical and even religious crazy.
You did say infinite though. That's a fairly all-encompassing term.




Go home Jeff7, you're drunk. LOL. If you tell me you're sober and serious about that post, and you want me to point out all the logical fallacies your pickled consciousness figuratively vomited into your post, I can. Just say the word. Otherwise I'll just bid you farewell with this final message: Enjoy your Friday night
Oh do go on.
 

marvdmartian

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The truth of the matter is that we are NOT forever, at least not in the way most of us think about it. I know there's plenty of people out there (and many, many here) who would like to think they will be immortalized forever for their greatness, but the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of us will be completely forgotten in less than 100 years, along with all the "great" things we have accomplished in life. Welcome to the great human foible of narcissism.

That being said, it's important to then realize that much of what you're doing with your life is a colossal waste of time. If you're good with that, go for it! But don't be the whiner, who, years from now, as you're lying on your death bed, you find yourself weeping, and begging for more time on this Earth, so that you can accomplish all the things you forgot to do (or live your life over again, so you can do things differently).

Instead, seize the day! Get off your butt, stop worrying about all the foolish little things that you really have no control over in your life, and get out there and DO SOMETHING with it! The "stuff" you own lasts an even shorter time than you do, so why do you obsess over it? You can't take it with you! Meanwhile, the days are slipping by (and believe me, they slip by faster, once you reach a certain point in life!), you're stuck in the same rut you were 5 years ago (and, likely, the same one you'll be in 5 years from now), and it's high time to realize that you haven't done a damn thing with your life.......YET.

So spend more time with your loved ones, with your children, hell, with complete strangers, if that's all you have! Pause, every so often, to enjoy the little pleasures in life. Plan for your future enough so that you won't be a burden on others, but enjoy your present enough so that you'll be able to look back on it, some day (hopefully in the far future), and think, "Damn, that was a great ride, wasn't it??"
 
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