Let's talk about RAID

AMDPwred

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So how would RAID be good for me? Which is the most effective way of having a RAID setup for a personal workstation? Lastly, about RAID cards, could you guys shed some light on what one would need as the controller? Thanks for any insite.
 

AMDPwred

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Yeah, I was reading that. That article got me thinking about it. I need it broken down into little mans terms though
 

AkumaBao

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Look at this way. There would be two options in considering (in my opinion) for a workstation, and keep it cheaper than SCSI. 1. Striped drives (RAID 0), meaning more performance. You take two identical drives ( If you want, otherwise the bigger one will be seen as the size of the smaller one. ) set them up into a RAID stripe method. To my understanding you get twice the speed, and (of course) twice the size. The RAID will then see this as one drive. i.e. two 40GB Seagates Barracudas, (or something) so not only is your 7200RPM drive speed increased you will also see them as one drive. 2. You can do a RAID 1 (mirror), which you do the same setup as a stripe method, but instead of any increase your main drive is copying itself to the other drive, hence the name "mirror". Just a easy backup pretty much. In benchmarks, running two 7200RPM hard drives in RAID 0, (striping) almost matches up to the speed of a SCSI 160 setup, which is pretty damn fast. Also, most motherboards with RAID built-in, or even if you get a RAID controller you're going to have the ability to hook-up 4 other drives to the IDE channels. I hate hooking anything else in the same channel as my hard drive (i.e. ZIP, CD-ROM, etc.), it slows it down too much. I hope that helped.
 

Mears

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Are you saying that having two HDs on a single Channel hampers performance or just different devices?
 

HexVector

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No, having two HDs on the same IDE chain is fine. Its when you add a slower optical drive as a master slave for example is where HD performance is hindered. Since only one device can use the cable at any one time, a slow CD drive hogging the line with its slow, petty read requests is not good.
 

AMDPwred

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RAID 0 sounds like the setup for me. I could use some extra hard drive space anyways. Might as well get a RAID card and get some extra performance while I'm at it. So what would a good card be? I'll be using two WD 20GB 7200RPM drives on a Shuttle AK31A board.
 

Sugadaddy

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Let's talk about RAID baby, let's talk about RAID baby, let's talk about all the good things.....
 

Rahminator

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Raid 0 sure does look good in synthetic benchmarks. In real life, the only significant advantage that you will notice is if you do a lot of video editing. Other than that, you probably won't notice the speed improvement.
 

AMDPwred

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I could use the extra hard drive space though so what's another <$80 to get some better performance?
 

Budman

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Raid 0 is pretty much all hype,unless you do video editing or transfer large files chances are you will not even see a difference,remember the latency will not improve so only on large files will you see a diff. just opening word & surfing you will not notice any improvement.
 

amature

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Don't forget that if any drive fails in raid 0, all data is lost. If you have a 4 drive raid 0, the chances of drive failure is 4 times that of an single drive.
 

HexVector

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Do you need RAID 1? In otherwords, is your data that important that a very current copy be kept at all times? Don't fall into the RAID hype just becuase it sounds cool. It has its uses, but if you don't really need any of the benefits RAID offers than why bother?
 

AMDPwred

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If your asking if I have tons of data on my PC that I wouldn't want to re-install, then yes. Is it mission critical, no not really. I would feel better if I had a backup of my entire drive though. I have 'alot' of software
 

SinNisTeR

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raid 0 all the way baby!!!! wooohoooo!!!

HDs are the slowest part of the PC... so why not speed it up?!

i do raid 0 and one tip... DO NOT DO ANY OVERCLOCKING OF ANY SORT.. especially if your controller is on board. good luck to ya.
 

Demonicon

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I'm sorry but Raid 0(Striping) is not all just hype. Your boot times will be a little slower but other than that performance is blazing. You can tell the difference.

It is true that your twice as likely for a failure, but do CD backups of important data and blaze away.
 

AMDPwred

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Twice as likely for failure isn't worth any performance gains to me. So RAID 1 is looking best right now. Could anyone point me to a nice controller?
 

SinNisTeR

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raid 0 + 1 is where you have at least 3 HDs. Two will do raid 0 while the third ones automatically backs-up the data. you get the best of both worlds. if the raid 0 dies, you will have raid 1 still intact, and you then just move the data back and everything is then peachy keen.
 
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