LGA 2011. Upgrading soon, will it last?

[CZory91]

Hi, I'm wondering if the LGA 2011 is still the "enthusiast platform" for the near future at the least. From what I can find, Ivy Bridge-E is going to be king of the hill for some time on the 2011 platform. This interests me greatly as an MMO player in CPU heavy games. Coming from a 2600k and GTX 670, going for 4820k and GTX 770 if I can get any BFriday deals. I just some opinions on how long 2011 will last as the top performer.

Edit: Doh, not even realizing DDR4 is coming soon. What does this mean? Intel will come out with DDR4 2011 boards, or start another new 2011 board? Maybe now is a bad time to upgrade... I realize memory upgrades aren't much, if anything of a deal, but the newer architectures and what not will be on DDR4 boards in the future...

 

[MiRai]

From what I understand, the next enthusiast/extreme platform is Haswell-E and it's going to use the X99 chipset on an entirely different socket which is due out next year.

If all you're playing is MMOs, then I doubt a 4820K is much of an upgrade from a 2600K. You should open up your Windows Task Manager while you're playing and watch what your CPU is doing on the Performance tab. Does it look like it's the bottleneck of your system?

 

[CZory91]

I forgot to add that I also record from time to time, which ramps up CPU usage for obvious reasons. In towns and such, CPU usage gets high as it should, and delayed actions start to kick it due to the massive amount of players it needs to load. Since I'll have the money and I want to blow it on that, I just need to know whether or not it will last. The last roadmap picture I found was with ivy bridge-E at the top of the charts, do you have any links about haswell E?

 

[MiRai]

Recording or not, I doubt the CPU is the bottleneck. When recording, you're more likely to find a bottleneck with your drive's write speed than a CPU like a 2600K.

As for whether IVB-E will last or not, well... Nothing lasts forever and eventually there'll be another chip that's better. If you keep waiting for the next best thing you're going to be waiting for a long time. Here's some information about HW-E:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2325520

 

[CZory91]

I use two SSDs and previously have used a VelociRaptor WD drive. It's not the hard disk. Recording takes a big hit on CPU usage if you want great quality footage.

 

[jacktesterson]

Not worth the upgrade right now. (my opinion, of course)

 

[DigDog]

From what I understand, the next enthusiast/extreme platform is Haswell-E and it's going to use the X99 chipset on an entirely different socket which is due out next year.

conveniently named "Socket LGA 2011 -3";

So 2011 is out and 2011-3 is due SOON(tm). Allegedly second half of 2014, also allegedly, will use DDR4 ram, which Samsung wants us to know it's "really, almost ready" while others tell us it's unlikely before 2015.

So giving you a recommendation on whether it's a good idea or not to upgrade, it's just not possible. However, if you do upgrade, it will probably still be a great system next year, as Haswell-E will hardly make anything redundant. And you don't have to deal with dodgy thermal interface material, either.

 

[zir_blazer]

I forgot to add that I also record from time to time, which ramps up CPU usage for obvious reasons.

Google around how to use QuickSync to encode recordings on the fly. You can encode using Sandy Bridge's GPU instead of CPU.

 

[Hdgamer]

Just because DDR-4 is almost ready doesn't mean you have to get it. I highly doubt ddr-4 is going to be anything to be impressed about. If anything wait until the next platform does come out and wait for reviews. Really don't think new CPU's are giving us huge jumps every generation like they used to. Would be interesting to see what skylake turns out though. But just because it uses new ram, doesn't mean squat. Ram and ram speed isn't holding any of us back, it's just marketing crap like PCI-E 4.0. YEAH like we really even use all of the bandwidth of 2.0 yet...

 

[Essence_of_War]

Coming from a 2600k and GTX 670, going for 4820k

Moving from SB->IB-E, but not transitioning from quad-core to hex-core?

That seems strange to me. If I were moving to LGA 2011, I wouldn't do it for a side-grade on physical core count.

 

[nenforcer]

The first batches of DDR4 are suppose to start at around DDR3 2133 speeds at a JEDEC approved level so the first chips you can get aren't going to offer much more bandwith than what is currently available in DDR3.

They will have lower voltages and lower power, however.

 

[wasabiman123]

Don't do it, not worth it, X79 is old, go Z87 or hunker down and wait for X99.

 

[smangular]

DDR4 may end up being 50%+ more expensive per GB when it launches as well. Not fun times...

 

[DigDog]

hunker down and wait for X99.

i'm counting the days to H2 2014. ()

 

[Techhog]

The only reason to ever get a 4820K is if you need the PCIe lanes. The 4770K is faster. Either wait for Haswell-E or get the 4770K on Socket 1150. Or hell, keep what you have because it's fine.

 

[Braxos]

My thoughts are that 4k monitor are coming on the PC so that means higher ram GPUs where that means more core CPUs will be necessary so there will be no bottleneck. Now for me the question is the time frame that company's will keep will GPU and CPU manufactories produce right away the proper technology or they will sell crap things first so they can have some profit from the research the did to provide that technology or skip one or 2 generations.

Looking to the next years 2-3 max. I see 4-8gb ram on GPU and 6-12 cores on CPU. Forget 1440p or 1600p the TV manufacturers are going the 4k road so panels on that resolutions will be cheaper to produce for TV and monitors, so to drive them you need ATM quad GPUs to have them on a medium playable solution at 30hz. So think 60hz or more and think higher settings too what will you need for it.

I am same dilemma 2600k at 4.5 with sli 770 2gb. Where the upgrade I see is a hexacore but the 1k to pay for the upgrade benefit is to high for my taste.

So gl HF