Lian-Li PC-V1000

[undyingpayne]

Edit: Bought the case.. need help with wiring. Post on second page.

 

[Mik3y]

i like the case a lot, but unless i'm rich, i wouldnt spend the money on that case. yes, its perhaps the highest quality case out there, but its got its cons too. the whole inside is like flipped upside down and not all psu's will fit in it. its more up to you on if you can justify its worth.

 

[Tab]

Speaking of the V-1000 whats the difference between the V-1000 and the V-1200...

 

[Mik3y]

size. the v-1200 is bigger if i remember correctly.

 

[undyingpayne]

Yeah but are there really an cons to having a flipped motherboard?

As for PSU's.. eh, I have to buy a PSU anyway, so it's not a big deal if I have to buy one that's going to fit.

I'm not a modder, so I'm not going to buy a PC-65 and then cut holes into it.. so if I get a cheaper case, it needs to be perfect (well, as close to) right out of the box.

 

[Mik3y]

the cons for having a flipped motherboard is that the videocard will blow heat straight at the cpu area, making it even hotter a bit (as wut i've been told), but other then that, its fine. its hard to find a silver optical drive to match the front bezel.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
the cons for having a flipped motherboard is that the videocard will blow heat straight at the cpu area, making it even hotter a bit (as wut i've been told), but other then that, its fine. its hard to find a silver optical drive to match the front bezel.

I doubt that very much, all test show the V1000's config runs cooler then traditnal ATX. Besides heat rises, all that heat generated by the graphics card is going to find its way to the CPU in any ATX case.

 

[tonyou]

Originally posted by: undyingpayne
Hey guys... I'm building a new computer and I need to choose a case. The Lian-Li PC-V1000 really appeals to me... but I'm wondering, is that $200 price tag on it worth it?

I think all of the new Lian-Li V-series are great (especially the ones with front doors) and are well worth their prices IMHO. But again, that is just me.

 

[undyingpayne]

Originally posted by: tonyou

Originally posted by: undyingpayne
Hey guys... I'm building a new computer and I need to choose a case. The Lian-Li PC-V1000 really appeals to me... but I'm wondering, is that $200 price tag on it worth it?

I think all of the new Lian-Li V-series are great (especially the ones with front doors) and are well worth their prices IMHO. But again, that is just me.

Do you actually own one? I have a few questions for someone that does.

 

[MPistner]

I actually Own the PC-V1200. The main difference is it's a little longer, but as far as height and width, it's the same as the PC-V1000.

The case is truly exceptional in quality and does a great job when it comes to cooling (Though my system is water cooled as well...). I couldn't be happier. I've run many other cases before and this one is one of my fav's, if not my absolute favorite.

My one concern prior to purchase, was that it didn't have the removable motherboard tray like most Lian-Li, and that due to the motherboard placement it would be a tad awkward when installing it, but I was DEAD wrong. It's a VERY roomy case (Especially the PC-V1200 since its a tad longer) and it was VERY easy to work in.

I'll keep track of this post, so if you have any questions, feel free to post them or just PM me and I'll see what I can do for ya!

 

[undyingpayne]

Well.. heh.. I wanted to know how long SATA cables I would need, but you have the V1200 so it's going to be different anyway.

Is the V1200 a lot bigger? Do you think the 1000 would be a little small on the inside?

And I can't really inquire about the videocard thing that was brought up by Mik3y since you are watercooling.

Really, right now, I'm trying to decide between a PC-65, Coolermaster Praetorian, or a CM Stacker. I would gladly go with the V1000 if it wasn't so expensive.

 

[csrx]

I've heard this exact same problem from people that actually own a V1000. Their temperatures went up after moving their setup to this new case. I hear the compartments don't help airflow, heat gets trapped. They have drilled a extra holes for fans to ease the situation.
These are not my views, these are comments from people that have bought the case. This issue has stopped me from purchasing one.

Originally posted by: Mik3y
the cons for having a flipped motherboard is that the videocard will blow heat straight at the cpu area, making it even hotter a bit (as wut i've been told), but other then that, its fine. its hard to find a silver optical drive to match the front bezel.

 

[Tuzzi]

Originally posted by: MPistner
I actually Own the PC-V1200. The main difference is it's a little longer, but as far as height and width, it's the same as the PC-V1000.

The case is truly exceptional in quality and does a great job when it comes to cooling (Though my system is water cooled as well...). I couldn't be happier. I've run many other cases before and this one is one of my fav's, if not my absolute favorite.

My one concern prior to purchase, was that it didn't have the removable motherboard tray like most Lian-Li, and that due to the motherboard placement it would be a tad awkward when installing it, but I was DEAD wrong. It's a VERY roomy case (Especially the PC-V1200 since its a tad longer) and it was VERY easy to work in.

I'll keep track of this post, so if you have any questions, feel free to post them or just PM me and I'll see what I can do for ya!

I also have the V1000, and would agree with MPistner. Its one of the best cases I have owned. Its very roomy, and you don't need a removeable mobo tray.

I have replaced the two stock 120mm Adda fans with Pabst ones. Along with a Silenx 92mm fan on my SP-94, and I have a very quiet case.

One word of warning, as previously mentioned not all PSU's fit this case. I bought a OCZ Powerstream and it doesn't fit. It protrudes out the back about 2 inches. But it is so quiet I am keeping it.

I dont really understand what csrx is saying. My mobo, and CPU temps have all dropped with this case. I think air flow through the case is excellent.

 

[csrx]

tuzzi, your temps have dropped from what to what? Which case did you own before the V1000?

I have an OCZ Powerstream 520, and I would find a way to mod the V1000 to make it fit too!

 

[csrx]

These are comments that i'm referring to:

1)My V-1000b is definitely warmer than my 3-year old PC-68. I plan on adding a top 120mm intake and punching out the rear exhaust grill like sp00l did.

2) I've finally found the weak spot in this case which no review has pointed out(why doesn't this surprise me?) With the cpu at the bottom of the top compartment, a thermalright heatsink will funnel air veritical in the case. This hot air rises to the bottom of the vid card and bounces off the bottom of the compartments divider. It is ROASTING in the the corner near the ps/2 ports because the cpu fan is pushing air through the heatsink but it has a limited space to go. However, in the traditional atx case, the hot air vented down towards the vid card can rise up out of the case either through a blowhole or the psu. The air that is vented up, goes out of the psu or the top blowhole. Now I have a theory that something like the Thermaltake Silent tower would work wonders as the heatsinks fins would be parallel with the rear exhaust and thus pull hot air out instead of trapping it.
Anyways, the case is beautiful, well-made, and TONS of space. But it is definitely not an oc'ers case.

3) hear you man, I just got the V1000B. My NBtemp is as high, or higher, than my cpu temp using an slk-800! I've never seen 50c NB temp before (using a iceberq4). I also have a pci ide raid card and a 24" cable barely reaches. I'm going to make an external waterbox so I won't have to deal with this horrible heat. It is beautiful though isn't it?

4)My brother just got this case. I have to say it is pretty nice. I would like to get one myself, but they are just so expensive. With that said, this case is definately in serious need of some extra fans. There is very little airflow between the upper and lower compartments. He is adding either 2 or 4 80mm fans in the bottom of the case, and a single 120 between the upper and lower compartments. Then probably a blow hole or side vent as well. With a few well placed fans, you could greatly improve the performance of this case.

There's more if you want...

Originally posted by: Tuzzi
I dont really understand what csrx is saying. My mobo, and CPU temps have all dropped with this case. I think air flow through the case is excellent.

 

[Tuzzi]

Originally posted by: csrx
tuzzi, your temps have dropped from what to what? Which case did you own before the V1000?

I have an OCZ Powerstream 520, and I would find a way to mod the V1000 to make it fit too!

Sorry, my temps on my old Coolermaster ATC-710 were CPU 35 idle, and mobo 37 idle. With the V1000 there are between 31-33 for CPU, and between 33-34 for the mobo idle.

The are really no mods required to make the OCZ PSU fit. You will just have to have it hanging out the back, and not use the bracket. This PSU is soooo quiet its worth it. I can take a pic if you want. Shoot me a PM with your email addy.

 

[MPistner]

My sata cables are I believe 18", and even with that size, are still a tad long.

The PC-V1200 is just a couple inches longer. If I could go back and get the PC-V1000? I don't think I could honestly say I would or wouldn't. In the end it's basically the same case and I'm more than happy with the PC-V1200.

As for the video card? I've placed sensors from my temp. monitor (Digital Doc 5) All around my cpu, video card, top of the case, etc... And I don't find any spot that is specifically warmer than the rest. I think the design on the case, just pulls the heat out very evenly. After deciding where I wanted my final placement on the sensors to be, after weeks of running it, I STILL don't feel any spot is warmer than another unless it were to be in front of a fan or something in the case, then perhaps it would be a bit cooler.

When it comes to power supply, I'm running an Antec power supply and it fits perfectly. I really couldn't ask for anything more when it comes to this case. It's truly a great case despite its price.

 

[randomlinh]

i want the 1100B..... but at $250... that's just a little too much for something w/o a power supply

 

[csrx]

I sent you a PM Tuzzi.

Lian-Li also makes windowed side panels for their V series (for those interested).

Thanks for the temp information. These conflicting comments are confusing me. I like the case alot, but wanted to be sure that this new layout wasn't affecting anything in a negative way. I know Silverstone is coming out with a similar layout, the TSJ06, but it kind of isolates the cpu area with a tube.

The other case I like is the chenbro gaming bomb II (msrp ~$200). It also reminds me of a mac, but they keep delaying it. Now i'm hearing last week of september as a release. date.

 

[undyingpayne]

They make windowed side panels for the V series? Where did you see those at?

Tuzzi, how was your case with the stock fans... was it loud? Antec's PSUs should fit, right?

I have to decide on a case by the end of the day because I'll be ordering the rest of my computer then

 

[Tuzzi]

Originally posted by: undyingpayne
They make windowed side panels for the V series? Where did you see those at?

Tuzzi, how was your case with the stock fans... was it loud? Antec's PSUs should fit, right?

I have to decide on a case by the end of the day because I'll be ordering the rest of my computer then

You can get the windowed panels here:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=103_130_158&products_id=1925&osCsid=f1b724f8e17e4933ced108116012049a

I found the stock fans not bad for noise. I just like the Pabst.

My Enermax 465PE PSU fit fine. The OCZ is just bigger.

 

[tonyou]

Originally posted by: undyingpayne

Do you actually own one? I have a few questions for someone that does.

I have a V1100 here at work. The included ADDA 120mm fans are not noticeable in an office environment, but if you are going to use it in your bedroom and/or sensitive to noise, you can always swap with quieter fans.

As for power supply, just make sure to get PS2 sized units 150x86x140mm (WxHxD) and you'll be fine.

 

[CraigRT]

ever since I saw this case I've been wanting it.. Not sure what I am going to do yet.. there are a few other good options also.
nice to hear some people with experience though, I am one of those people who looks for that, over reading reviews any day.

 

[Tab]

I am really trying to figure out if a PC V-1200 can fully fit a Antec NeoPower. Thats what really is on my mind at the moment, not to mention if they case could be easily modded into fitting something larger.

 

[undyingpayne]

Originally posted by: tonyou

Originally posted by: undyingpayne

Do you actually own one? I have a few questions for someone that does.

I have a V1100 here at work. The included ADDA 120mm fans are not noticeable in an office environment, but if you are going to use it in your bedroom and/or sensitive to noise, you can always swap with quieter fans.

As for power supply, just make sure to get PS2 sized units 150x86x140mm (WxHxD) and you'll be fine.

But the V1100 is a lot quieter with the closed design and noise-dampening foam.

I would go for the V1100 but I really don't like the looks of it over the V1000. The door bothers me and even if the door wasn't there, the top and bottom would protrude out.

I really want the case but I don't know if it justifies the high price tag. Cooling doesn't seem to be that great over the other things I am looking at (might be worse... comments?) and it seems like it will be a little louder too.