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Originally posted by: Rob9874

In a war on terrorism, you're not going to find hard evidence about anything. You're going to have to work with the best intelligence you have.

That's not good enough - you do not punish someone because your best intelligence leads you to "assume" they're up to no good.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: busmaster11
So you unilatterally decide to wage war on a sovereign nation (1) because you suspect that some element associated with their government *may be* in some minor way aiding the enemy and more importantly

Are you a lawyer? Nice loaded question. No, the US didn't merely "suspect" anything. The best intelligence our government has was highly confident. I would say that's a little stronger than "maybe suspecting that there's a slight possibility". You guys phrase things to make them suit you better.

That's pretty reckless given the less-than-accurate intelligence our country's intel orgs have generated lately. 9/11 was the biggest intel failure since Pearl Harbor. The Iraqi WMD claim was the second. Care to make it three?

 

[Genx87]

Did you practice this post with crayons before typing it? Give it up already, the sooner you realize that Saddam did not order those stikes the better off you will be

Thank you for agreeing with what the Bush administration has been saying since Sept 16th 2001 or so.

As for the connections. You would have to stick your head in the sand to deny there werent come level of cooperation between the two entities. And in this war where anything can happen and anytime. We dont have time to hope for the best. If your high lvl intelligence agencies are visiting terrorist sites to talk about deals and alliances. Then expect to be removed from power.

 

[cash1220]

9/11 was the biggest intel failure since Pearl Harbor.

you classify those two events as inteligence failures? gimme a freakin break

 

[Bonesdad]

Iraq and Al Qaeda TALKED .... that is all. Bush and his conservative flunkies deliberatly misled us all by trying to create a link in our minds between 9/11 and Iraq. Fortunately, some of us were clear headed enough to see through the lie. Unfortunately, some were not.

 

[AEB]

there is some CIA report that iraq was helping al quadia develop WMD, and putin confirms that his intel gatherd the same. I will find links and post asap

 

[Insane3D]

Of course no one has pointed out it makes no sense for AQ and Saddam to work together considering Saddam ran a secular government that persecuted those who follow Islam, and restricted the free practice of it. Of course OBL, being a Islamic fundamentalist, would be jumping through flaming hoops to work with a dictator who supressed and marginalized the very religion he thought was worth fighting a holy war over. Yep..makes PERFECT sense.

:roll:

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

well this debate will never end I suppose. It's very hard to argue with people like Rob, who are so indoctrinated into Bush's lies that they cannot see the truth lying in front of them.
If our goal is to defeat terrorism on a global level, do you really think we are going about it the right way? Is starting a war under false pretenses in the Middle East the best way to achieve peace? Think about what we are doing. This war is only creating more enemies for the US, and it is only breeding more terrorists. Instead of approaching this situation cautiously, with careful planning, we went in recklessly. The prisoner abuse scandal SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED, had we planned this like we should have. It seems as if we are doing everything in our power to screw things up in a very tense and heightened place. That is why I think we need a change in leadership.
I truly WANT to fight this global war on terrorism, and I think all Democrats share the same feeling, but we realize there is a much better way of going about it. It is going to take global unity and action from many countries around the world to truly fight this problem. After all, what the hell is going to stop some lunatic extremist from strapping 50 lbs worth of explosives to himself and detonating in the middle of Times Square, or a subway station, or any crowded place for that matter. There is NO amount of defense or security that we can have that would ever truly stop such terrorists attacks. If we go this alone, we will continue to lose the battle.......