Liberals trying to force homosexuality onto children

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

 

[JacobJ]

Supt. Paul B. Ash refuses to whisk the Parkers' son away if a classmate with same-sex parents brings a family photo for show-and-tell, or a lesbian couple volunteers at the Halloween party.

OMG THEY'RE GAY VOLUNTEERS! NOOOOO! AHHHHH! RUN!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Why the mods haven't permabanned you is a mystery to me...

On what grounds?

Sure, many here, including myself, disagree with the OPs stance on issues, but since when is having an unpopular opinion reason for banning?

Nod, I disagree with Zen on just about everything, but don't see why this or posts like it should be grounds for a ban.

I think it's ridiculous to oppose it. Why not pull your kid out of science class as well? Science also contradicts a radically right interpretation of the bible.

 

[Steeplerot]

I hear they can turn you gay by them training their beady hungry souless eyes on you..lookout! gay people gonna convert you!

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Homosexuals are corrupting society? Do tell.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

EAT DIRT

 

[Bitek]

I thought this thread was going to be about the Mass. Catholic church again...



Where are they talking about teaching gay sex? I think the Supt reasoning was perfectly valid, plus how would that effect the student having to have him alone whisked out of the classroom any time anything related to homo. was brought up? What kid wants to be singled out bc his parents are overreactionary? There are gay people in the world, always will be. No point in trying to bury your head in the sand about it.

Plus it just sets a bad precedent. Why should the school staff be responsible for removing kids based on any topic that some dingbat parent doesn't want their child exposed to? If the school does relent, would that make them liable for everything little Timmy may hear that was forbidden by his parent? Could a German family sue if little Hans heard discussion on the halocaust and his parents were Halocasut-deniers and had forbidden the subject?

If they gayness is immoral, teach Timmy at home about it. Be parents for once.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

 

[outriding]

Ok I have a question for the anti gay people here...

Do you know what the percentage of being gay when ....

You are an identical twin is gay?
or Your faternal twin is gay?

I will post the answer and my source later tonight.

 

[JacobJ]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

You mean the biology of reproduction? Should a kid learn that when a penis goes into a vagina, pregnancy may result?

Should they be taught the physical science of how reproduction works? Of how babies are formed? No, probably not. It would get in the way of true faith and understanding of God, Our Lord and Savior.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

Yes in the context of reproduction.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: outriding
Ok I have a question for the anti gay people here...

Do you know what the percentage of being gay when ....

You are an identical twin is gay?
or Your faternal twin is gay?

I will post the answer and my source later tonight.

Guarantee you that you get one reply or less from anyone who disagrees with homosexuality - they just have no heart.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

Yes in the context of reproduction.

no safe sex education? info on HIV, etc? Birth control, condoms?

My view is that gay kids should have the same access to relevant info on sex and sexuality, including things like HIV/ AIDS, condoms, etc. that heterosexual kids do.

edit: obviously I'm talking about older kids in the last few years of highschool.

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: outriding
Ok I have a question for the anti gay people here...

Do you know what the percentage of being gay when ....

You are an identical twin is gay?
or Your faternal twin is gay?

I will post the answer and my source later tonight.

Guarantee you that you get one reply or less from anyone who disagrees with homosexuality - they just have no heart.

Yea I know I was just trying to point out that nature plays more of a role in beng gay than you think...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

Yes in the context of reproduction.

no safe sex education? info on HIV, etc? Birth control, condoms?

My view is that gay kids should have the same access to relevant info on sex and sexuality, including things like HIV/ AIDS, condoms, etc. that heterosexual kids do.

They can sanitize it enough not to be offensive and still be effective.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

Yes in the context of reproduction.

no safe sex education? info on HIV, etc? Birth control, condoms?

My view is that gay kids should have the same access to relevant info on sex and sexuality, including things like HIV/ AIDS, condoms, etc. that heterosexual kids do.

They can sanitize it enough not to be offensive and still be effective.

who would they offend?

 

[nageov3t]

so when intelligent design comes around, we're supposed to promote all points of views, but only one point of view when it comes to the various cultures that we're going to be living shoulder-to-shoulder with for the rest of our lives?

I fail to see how what the school did is a big deal. all they're saying is homosexuality exists, and some homosexual couples get married and make families. if you're that concerned about your innocent little snowflake, homeschool and wrap them in bubblewrap, because they probably hear things 10x worse on the playground during recess.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dirtboy
As I've said before, the left is a party of no morals. They want to corrupt our society and this is just more proof to the mountain of evidence.

Liberals, progressives want to make society better by bringing much needed change.

Changwe is fine when it's for the good of all. I do believe that acceptance of Gays is good but there really isn't a need to teach about Gay Sex when the vast majority of students aren't gay.

Where do you get they are teaching about gay sex? I thought in this case it was teaching about different types of families.

I didn't, I was just commenting on what I thought wouldn't be acceptable to teach in the Class Room

should heterosexual sex be taught (with older kids)?

Yes in the context of reproduction.

no safe sex education? info on HIV, etc? Birth control, condoms?

My view is that gay kids should have the same access to relevant info on sex and sexuality, including things like HIV/ AIDS, condoms, etc. that heterosexual kids do.

They can sanitize it enough not to be offensive and still be effective.

who would they offend?

Christians, Muslims, Jews, and 95% of Atheist Hetrosexuals (unless it was two very attractive Lesabians) would be my guess.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

You cannot combat intolerance. Because no matter what truth you speak, it can always rationalize to itself a reason why you are wrong.
Sometimes, to fully understand and come to terms with something, you have to experience it yourself.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Titan

I don't believe in liberal "progressive" change for change's sake. But kids need a dose of reality. If you don't want your kids to know the truth, you can legally take them out of school. But a lie of omission is still a lie. I don't like the idea of the Govt taking people's kids away, but I hate even more these parents who believe they own their kids and can do anything they want with them. In other words, parents forget their responsibilities when imposing their own beliefs on their kids. If it were up to me, your kid would learn everything not about sex (the act, the innuendos) until puberty and then be taught one class about sexuality. We are entering the information age and kids need as much knowledge and understanding they can get, from anywhere they can get it.

The bolded section is precisely what the Parkers tried to do but the school district decided to block them.

Let's teach the kids about pedophiles while we are at it.

 

[Pabster]

I'm afraid that doesn't amount to liberals forcing homosexuality onto children...

Everyone exaggerates from time to time but that is stretching it way too far.

 

[Future Shock]

Originally posted by: outriding
Ok I have a question for the anti gay people here...

Do you know what the percentage of being gay when ....

You are an identical twin is gay?
or Your faternal twin is gay?

I will post the answer and my source later tonight.

I can't answer those two questions - but I DO know that 10% of the human population is "gay" or homosexual. This statistic is invariate across populaitions, educational systems, cultures, religions, and time periods.

More importantly, this 10% have been shown to respond differently than straight people to phermones - they are attracted to the phermonal scent of the same sex, not the opposite sex. Man are attracted to the scent of sweaty men, women to other women's scents. This again is consistent across study populations.

Homosexuality DOES run in families, and appears to be an inherited trait.

There is, therefore, a quite strong arguement that 10% of the population is just biologically homosexual. It doesn't mean that they are exclusively homosexual - a friend of mine married a woman that for most of her life was lesbian - but really liked him as a person, and they wanted to have children together, and did enjoy straight sex with him as well. But she admitted that she was still attracted to women too...and he was fine with that.

You can't "hide your children" from it - 10% of the population, cutting across all racial and income lines, is a pretty large swath of people to shield them from. One out of every 10 teachers they have will be gay. A fair number of priests are gay (oh my GOD - don't take your children to church!!!).

IMHO - these parents are idiots, and shouldn't have reproduced...

Future Shock

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

i think it's hard for those of us who are more socially progressive to understand the conservative point of view on these kind of issues. for us to understand them, would be for us to essentially accept their intolerance.

 

[Titan]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Titan

I don't believe in liberal "progressive" change for change's sake. But kids need a dose of reality. If you don't want your kids to know the truth, you can legally take them out of school. But a lie of omission is still a lie. I don't like the idea of the Govt taking people's kids away, but I hate even more these parents who believe they own their kids and can do anything they want with them. In other words, parents forget their responsibilities when imposing their own beliefs on their kids. If it were up to me, your kid would learn everything not about sex (the act, the innuendos) until puberty and then be taught one class about sexuality. We are entering the information age and kids need as much knowledge and understanding they can get, from anywhere they can get it.

The bolded section is precisely what the Parkers tried to do but the school district decided to block them.

Let's teach the kids about pedophiles while we are at it.

We do, in terms relevant to what they understand. I was told in school to "not accept rides from strangers" at an early age. This is a good thing. Should we not teach them that guns are dangerous? Education prevents the misunderstandings that lead to accidentsintolerance, and crimes related to such.

I missed the part where the Parkers were blocked from homeschooling their child.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: aidanjm
no safe sex education? info on HIV, etc? Birth control, condoms?

My view is that gay kids should have the same access to relevant info on sex and sexuality, including things like HIV/ AIDS, condoms, etc. that heterosexual kids do.

They can sanitize it enough not to be offensive and still be effective.

The phrase 'sanitize' implies you think there is something dirty about sex, per se.

My view is that gay kids and heterosexual kids face somewhat different dangers or problems associated with becoming sexually active. E.g., young gay males face greater risk of picking up HIV/ AIDS. They don't have to worry about unwanted pregnancies. It isn't good enough, in my opinion, to offer a sex ed. course that caters only to heterosexuals, and offers no information at all specific to gay kids. It also isn't good enough, imo, to simply promote 'no sex before marriage" and conveniently ignore the fact that many individuals, gay or straight, will become sexually active long before they get married (if indeed they ever marry).