It's what we get for entering another fetid TH thread though I suppose, and I knew better. Ugh.
Jesus taught to obey the law.
Remember when Jesus was asked about taxes? He said render unto Caesars which is Caesars. Jesus never taught to disobey the law.
Please explain in detail how Jesus taught civil disobedience, because he didn't.
Jesus never said anything about gays, that came later. He taught love and acceptance.
Muhammad on the other hand,,,,,. According to the quran marrying a 9 year old girl is fine. How are liberals going to justify a 50 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl.
Stop dodging the issues, please.
According to what you've said countless times, a religion's collective behavior is dictated by the entirety of its sacred text. If you're a Christian, by your previous logic, it doesn't matter whether Jesus said something, or Paul, or other disciples -- every follower automatically endorses every part of the Bible. So which is it? Either you explicitly advocate homophobia and slavery, or you admit the truth: that religious people have widely varying interpretations that often exclude regressive parts, which opens the door to moderate and liberal Muslims.
You must be referring to the old testament.
Jesus abolished the old testament.
Way to not understand anything that you read. Islam is not the issue. Radical Islam is the issue. You could just as easily say that Nazism is not compatible with western civilization... Radical Islam is to Islam as Nazism and the KKK is to Christianity.
I have no clue whatsoever why you keep trying to claim that.
Other than ignorance.
We have already been over that in this thread. And it has been explained why and how Jesus abolished the old testament.
Still has nothing to do with last weekends bombings and stabbings, and the terror in France,,,,,.
Where are Christians bombing non-believers? They are not, so please stop the strawman.
Liberals are importing a group of people in mass who are in direct conflict with liberal beliefs.
Why are christians and the bible being drug into strawman arguments?
It is this simple:
Jesus preached love. That is all he preached, to love each other.
Quran - Kill the nonbelievers until everyone follows allah. Then there are the womens rights and child marriage issues taught in the quran.
We have already been over that in this thread. And it has been explained why and how Jesus abolished the old testament.
Still has nothing to do with last weekends bombings and stabbings, and the terror in France,,,,,.
Where are Christians bombing non-believers? They are not, so please stop the strawman.
Liberals are importing a group of people in mass who are in direct conflict with liberal beliefs.
Why are christians and the bible being drug into strawman arguments?
It is this simple:
Jesus preached love. That is all he preached, to love each other.
Quran - Kill the nonbelievers until everyone follows allah. Then there are the womens rights and child marriage issues taught in the quran.
Because you're creating a double standard and hoping we're not bright enough to see it.
Your take on Islam: every Muslim always adheres to every part of the Quran. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim compatible with the US.
I have no clue whatsoever why you keep trying to claim that.
Other than ignorance.
You must attend some weird Church, or do not even understand their teachings, which is highly more likely I imagine.
Jesus wasn't known for dancing around with rattlesnakes either...
Jesus is fake. He was put together from bits of Egyptian mythos.
Lets not group everyone together shall we. Lets not speak in generalizations.
What we can say is what the quran teaches and what is going on the the US, Europe and the middle east.
It's because he's full of shit. Completely and totally full of shit. Nothing more, nothing less, like the assclown he's planning on voting for, full of shit.This baffles me. "Let's not group everyone together... let's not speak in generalizations."
Isn't that the very core of your argument, though? All Muslims are intolerant. Trump is right to want a ban on all of them entering the US. If you were sincere about refusing to throw them all into the same pot, you'd treat them on a case-by-case basis, accept that there are enough moderate Muslims that a blanket ban is irrational and contrary to the US' principles of freedom and tolerance.
The ignorance is yours. TH probably knows more about this than 90% of this forum.
Lets not group everyone together shall we. Lets not speak in generalizations.
What we can say is what the quran teaches and what is going on the the US, Europe and the middle east.
This baffles me. "Let's not group everyone together... let's not speak in generalizations."
Isn't that the very core of your argument, though? All Muslims are intolerant. Trump is right to want a ban on all of them entering the US. If you were sincere about refusing to throw them all into the same pot, you'd treat them on a case-by-case basis, accept that there are enough moderate Muslims that a blanket ban is irrational and contrary to the US' principles of freedom and tolerance.
Holy fuck! Are you really this fucking dumb?! You said lets not group everyone together and lets not speak in generalizations and then you proceeded to do just that!
It should truly be painful to be this stupid. And the bullshit you're trying to spread about being loving and accepting, for f%cks sake, do you not realize your posting history is entirely researchable as is your rampant homophobia?
On the subject of the OT being invalid, nah. Only when you take verses out of context do ya reach that conclusion.
If you read Jeremiah 31:31-34, it states that the only way for the new covenant (the covenant that the NT alludes to) to come into effect, is if every single person on Earth is a believer of Christianity, and follows the OT to the letter, following every commandment.
Only then will the OT become null and void, as everybody will be living as God intended, and will no longer require the punishment of death & eternal torment for breaking the commandments, in other words, will no longer have to punish sin, as there will be none.
Luke 16:17 even states that it's impossible for the OT to become irrelevant.
But 'ey, it's the usual fare. Wail and squirm when your religious text is laid bare, along with all of it's barbarism, but when it comes to other religions, all is well and fair.
We know for a fact muslims are bombing various cities in Europe and the US.
We know for a fact girls are being sent out of Europe for female circumcision.
We know for a fact girls are being sent out of Europe for forced marriages.
We know for a fact that there were several bombings last weekend and a stabbing.
We know for a fact gang rapes are taking place by muslim refugees in Europe.
Hiillary wants to allow even more muslims into the nation?
So, where do liberals draw the line on their tolerance? How many gang rapes, bombings, stabbings, mass shootings,,,, etc before we say enough is enough.
Who's talking about other religions? We're just speaking of the one which by total random chance happens to be followed by the terrorists currently blowing up, murdering, and raping their way through the Western world. I appreciate that you, as a consistent liberal, feel the need to kill yourself making every excuse imaginable for the most illiberal religion on the planet, but you should probably do a better job with your propaganda.
On the subject of the OT being invalid, nah. Only when you take verses out of context do ya reach that conclusion.
If you read Jeremiah 31:31-34, it states that the only way for the new covenant (the covenant that the NT alludes to) to come into effect, is if every single person on Earth is a believer of Christianity, and follows the OT to the letter, following every commandment.
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Luke 16:17 even states that it's impossible for the OT to become irrelevant.
We know for a fact muslims are bombing various cities in Europe and the US.
We know for a fact girls are being sent out of Europe for female circumcision.
We know for a fact girls are being sent out of Europe for forced marriages.
We know for a fact that there were several bombings last weekend and a stabbing.
We know for a fact gang rapes are taking place by muslim refugees in Europe.
Hiillary wants to allow even more muslims into the nation?
So, where do liberals draw the line on their tolerance? How many gang rapes, bombings, stabbings, mass shootings,,,, etc before we say enough is enough.