Libya: U.N. Security Council to support action short of invasion

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Patranus

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Its a shame Obama choose to sit on his hands as civilians are being slaughtered in the street.

And to think that America was once "a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
 

OCGuy

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Wow, another war we cannot afford. This is not a no-fly zone. This is authorized war.

FUCK.
 

PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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I wonder why the chinese don't want to get involved at all. they would get to try out their naval/air tech without putting troops on the ground, the gratitude of the rebels, and access to a shitload of quality oil and gas. they've probably already got favor with the khadaffi gov't, maybe even more siding with the rebels.
 

Infohawk

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It's too bad this didn't happen earlier. This is the kind of mission the UN was designed for.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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LOL @ you guys saying "UN". Everyone involved is a NATO force, and there will be a token Arab showing. This is US $$$$ and lives on the line in another arab country we have no business being in.
 

gevorg

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"No fly-zone" is just a euphemism for invasion. Much more than just air defenses will be bombed. Things can easy turn ugly and the ground forces will step in too.
 

OCGuy

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"No fly-zone" is just a euphemism for invasion. Much more than just air defenses will be bombed. Things can easy turn ugly and the ground forces will step in too.

They authorized more than a no-fly zone. Anything short of a land invasion.
 

chucky2

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Dec 9, 1999
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Sup UN, thanks for showing up over a week late.

Was this ever in doubt? Look at the UN handling of.....anything? F, look at how badly they handled Sudan. They actually got held up because out of the entire UN, they couldn't get 14 F'ing helicopters or some such BS.
 

chucky2

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I wonder why the chinese don't want to get involved at all. they would get to try out their naval/air tech without putting troops on the ground, the gratitude of the rebels, and access to a shitload of quality oil and gas. they've probably already got favor with the khadaffi gov't, maybe even more siding with the rebels.

Because the Chinese don't give half a F about one civilian, they only care about what's best for China. They're a brutal dictators wet dream....
 

Fenixgoon

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I don't want America involved, but if it is to be then why not test out some of the toys. Question though, I thought F-22s werent on aircraft carriers? Or are they?

F22 is airforce.

F35 will have airforce, marine corps, and navy variants
 

JSt0rm

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Its a shame Obama choose to sit on his hands as civilians are being slaughtered in the street.

And to think that America was once "a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."

fuck off neocon. Better to wait and let the whole world go in then be a baby bush and stick our dicks in there alone.
 

Doppel

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They authorized more than a no-fly zone. Anything short of a land invasion.
I thought it was anything short of an occupying force. Is that strictly defined? Seems like an in-out land force would be ok.

I agree with above this is what UN was made for. Get in there and do this. Honestly it makes me think much higher of the world that it's willing to do this when there isn't obviously money or other bullsh*t on the line.
 

OCGuy

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I thought it was anything short of an occupying force. Is that strictly defined? Seems like an in-out land force would be ok.

I agree with above this is what UN was made for. Get in there and do this. Honestly it makes me think much higher of the world that it's willing to do this when there isn't obviously money or other bullsh*t on the line.

The "UN" isnt doing shit. These are NATO countries, including the US, wasting more money we dont have.
 

bfdd

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Was this ever in doubt? Look at the UN handling of.....anything? F, look at how badly they handled Sudan. They actually got held up because out of the entire UN, they couldn't get 14 F'ing helicopters or some such BS.

Of course it wasn't a doubt in my mind. Please... I've spewed quite a bit of hate on the UN. Fucking worthless organization of idiots stroking each other off.
 

chucky2

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Of course it wasn't a doubt in my mind. Please... I've spewed quite a bit of hate on the UN. Fucking worthless organization of idiots stroking each other off.

Bu Bu bu...'The Rest of The World' needs to approve of things else we're "bad"....

I know, each and every time I see someone recommend, in a serious manner, that the UN actually handle a crisis in the hopes of actually having any hope of successfully handling that crisis without US involvement (meaning: we do it while they take the credit stroking each other on their awesomeness), it produces fits of uncontrolled laughter.

Chuck
 

JSt0rm

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Bu Bu bu...'The Rest of The World' needs to approve of things else we're "bad"....

This is why we should never let the republicans have power again. Tea Party or not they do not learn from their mistakes. Fucking redneck Taliban.
 

chucky2

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Yes, I'm the 'redneck Taliban" because the vaunted UN let hundreds of thousands get slaughtered while it UN'd its response, then, when there weren't hardly any left to slaughter, they finally mount a half @ssed response, but it comes to a standstill because out of the entire UN, they couldn't get 14 helicopters there.

Some of us live in this place called Reality, where we realize that people like to talk talk talk, and then look to others to do what they want them to do (for whatever reason).

The UN has again displayed its awesomeness, and its awesome response is that the rebels have been pushed all the way back to one city that's going to get rolled over before the UN does a meainingful F'ing thing about it.

Only a Liberal would actually believe the UN was good for anything other than hot air...

Chuck
 

rudeguy

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LOL @ you guys saying "UN". Everyone involved is a NATO force, and there will be a token Arab showing. This is US $$$$ and lives on the line in another arab country we have no business being in.

I hate to agree with you but I find it hard to believe any other country will take the lead.

But then again...Obama doesn't seem like he has the testicular fortitude to take action.

Maybe Gadaffi isn't such a bad guy after all. Lets strike up a trade agreement and open up some capital for short term loans. Of course that's after we ban drilling for oil.
 

wuliheron

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Its a shame Obama choose to sit on his hands as civilians are being slaughtered in the street.

And to think that America was once "a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."


Yeah, back in the good old days when we committed genocide on the Native Americans and segregated everyone!
 

wuliheron

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"No fly-zone" is just a euphemism for invasion. Much more than just air defenses will be bombed. Things can easy turn ugly and the ground forces will step in too.


No-fly zone is a euphemism for Gaddafi will either stop bombing them from the air or we will destroy every radar and airplane he has. In the Iraq war this took all of 2 or 3 days.
 

gevorg

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No-fly zone is a euphemism for Gaddafi will either stop bombing them from the air or we will destroy every radar and airplane he has. In the Iraq war this took all of 2 or 3 days.

Awww, so you "care" about Libyan civilians, how cute.

Will you "care" about Libyans as much as you "care" about Afghani civilians for the 10+ years? Even Soviets didn't "care" that much.
 

rudder

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"No fly-zone" is just a euphemism for invasion. Much more than just air defenses will be bombed. Things can easy turn ugly and the ground forces will step in too.

That's because the rebels have been wiped out by qaddafi's mercenaries. There is no way to remove him now.

I say get some good intel, find out where he and son are hiding... send in an F117 with a bunker buster and be done with it.
 
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