License Plate ID Help

cvrefugee

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This morning a box flew out of a pickup truck's bed and damaged my front bumper. I have a dashcam and the incident was recorded, however, I did not get close enough to get his license plate number clearly and I didn't think to read it so the dashcam could record my voice. So far I've loaded the video onto my computer and made various screencaps in VLC, but I still cannot make out the license plate number clearly. If it helps, I believe the license plate number format for trucks in CA is 1ABC234.

Can anyone else help me take a crack at it? Before I contact my insurance company I wanted to have all of the information needed to make a claim. I did not follow him and get his information because I wasn't sure if there was any damage, but there definitely was. Thanks guys!

Occurs around the 1:25 mark
 
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jlee

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How much damage did an empty (presumably) cardboard box manage to do?
 

cvrefugee

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How much damage did an empty (presumably) cardboard box manage to do?

Broke my lower grille inserts and cracked part of the front spoiler. My car is lowered so the box was forced underneath my car, causing the plastic to bend and fracture.
 

Bartman39

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cvrefugee... Uh I am with jlee on this one...? Just how much damage could a cardboard box cause...?

Also you when around the guy...? What the heck were you thinking...? Pissed off and driving like that will get you more than you would expect and I mean that in a difficult way...
 

cvrefugee

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cvrefugee... Uh I am with jlee on this one...? Just how much damage could a cardboard box cause...?

Also you when around the guy...? What the heck were you thinking...? Pissed off and driving like that will get you more than you would expect and I mean that in a difficult way...

I was pissed off because I've already had to replace parts due to a bucket falling off a truck and a semi-truck tire scrap getting kicked up into my lane. I don't tailgate and stuff like this still happens. How can you blame me for him not tying down his boxes? For the box to cause this much damage it must have been heavy duty and rigid.

Here's the damage:


don't drive such a brittle car

Thanks for tip.

EDIT: Dropbox suspended my public links, so I removed them for now.
 
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Bartman39

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cvrefugee...

Well to the best of my memory that box could never have flown out of the back of the truck if it were loaded with something...? It had to have been empty...?
I've already had to replace parts due to a bucket falling off a truck and a semi-truck tire scrap getting kicked up into my lane.
This explains part of the issue with your car as well...

Now as far as seeing the license plate I just do not understand why you drove past the truck and did not get it...? Being this pissed off will not help in these situations trust me I know myself... It does appear to be a company truck also if that would help but I doubt it...?
 

Brian Stirling

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Why all the blame going to the guy that was hit? I've had over $3K in damages, mostly tires and wheels, due to crap that's fallen out of mostly pickups and it pisses me off big time. I'm not talking some cheesy lowered cars here just stock cars. One time I was entering a turn on a narrow country road and there's was crap in the road but couldn't swerve to avoid it because of a car coming the other way and the upshot of this single incident was: both right side tires hosed, front right rim destroyed, front end needing work (parts and alignment). This one incident cost me over $800.

The rules are written mostly to protect the trucking companies and generally break down this way: if the object that fell out of the truck bounces on the road the truck driver/owner is no longer responsible. And, to further cover there ass they usually have a sign on the back of the truck that says "Stay back 500 feet" which you can't read from 500 feet, but with those two provisions the trucking companies are free and clear to sloppily load and not cover there load.

As bad as the big trucking companies are the worse culprit by me experience are contractor types in pickups as they seem to feel they can put anything they want in the bed of there pickup while leaving the gate down. They get to where they're going and the trash they put in the back is gone -- where did they think it went?

So, go ahead and blame this kid for running into crap someone else dropped on the road!


Brian
 

jlee

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Why all the blame going to the guy that was hit? I've had over $3K in damages, mostly tires and wheels, due to crap that's fallen out of mostly pickups and it pisses me off big time. I'm not talking some cheesy lowered cars here just stock cars. One time I was entering a turn on a narrow country road and there's was crap in the road but couldn't swerve to avoid it because of a car coming the other way and the upshot of this single incident was: both right side tires hosed, front right rim destroyed, front end needing work (parts and alignment). This one incident cost me over $800.

The rules are written mostly to protect the trucking companies and generally break down this way: if the object that fell out of the truck bounces on the road the truck driver/owner is no longer responsible. And, to further cover there ass they usually have a sign on the back of the truck that says "Stay back 500 feet" which you can't read from 500 feet, but with those two provisions the trucking companies are free and clear to sloppily load and not cover there load.

As bad as the big trucking companies are the worse culprit by me experience are contractor types in pickups as they seem to feel they can put anything they want in the bed of there pickup while leaving the gate down. They get to where they're going and the trash they put in the back is gone -- where did they think it went?

So, go ahead and blame this kid for running into crap someone else dropped on the road!


Brian

In NH, an automotive accident is considered damage/injury that is caused by the motion of a motor vehicle or its load.

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THEIR

My Forester hit a retread at ~70mph and all it did was crack the paint on the bumper and put a little wrinkley area on it (very, very minor). A retread is a hell of a lot more solid than an empty cardboard box. I'm surprised at the significance of the OP's damage in this case.
 
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OutHouse

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to further cover there ass they usually have a sign on the back of the truck that says "Stay back 500 feet" which you can't read from 500 feet, but with those two provisions the trucking companies are free and clear to sloppily load and not cover there load.

you do know that sign has no legal teeth right?

"Not Responsible for Broken Windshields
Story by: DU Law Professor Jan Laitos
April 1, 2001

Is a truck legally liable when debris from it flies into and cracks your car windshield? Is the trucking company excused from liability when it installs a sign on the back of the truck saying it is not responsible for broken windshields if the car is following too closely?

It is common throughout the 9News area to see gravel and rock and dump trucks on our highways that are carrying substances that can fall off the moving truck, and break a windshield of a car that is behind it. Often these trucks have signs on the back of the vehicle that seem to say that if the car is following too closely, the truck is not responsible for any damage that might be caused. Do these signs in fact, and as a matter of law, excuse the truck from liability if a windshield is cracked from material that flies off the truck?

One answer to this question is found in state law. As a matter of statutory law, vehicles which are carrying material shall not have that material fly off the vehicle so that it hits and damages other cars. The State Patrol will enforce this law, and cite trucks that either cause accidents or property damage as a result of their loads falling off the vehicle and hitting other motor vehicles. There is no exception in this law for trucks that put warning signs on the truck.

Another answer to the question lies in "common law," which is judge-made law. As a general rule, a person is not excused from liability merely by putting a sign up warning others that the person with the sign is excused from liability. The @ISSUE story makes this point.

However, if there is a sign on a truck that is a warning to a motorist to drive at least 200 feet behind the truck, and if a vehicle is driving really close to the truck (within 200 feet) when debris from the truck hits the windshield, the fact that the vehicle with the cracked windshield is driving very close, despite the warning, could be used in court to mitigate the liability damages for the truck owner. After all, the truck did try to warn, and if the motorist ignored the warning, that fact would probably not be ignored by a court.

State law also provides that certain loads be covered, depending upon how large in diameter the load is that is being carried by the truck. Failure to cover these loads will also be relevant if part of the load is blown off of a truck, and in turn hits the windshield of a following car.

The best piece of non-legal advice that can be provided is simply this:
Cars should stay back from trucks, and don't follow them too closely; and trucks should cover their loads, and not assume signs on the back of the truck excuse them from liability.
 

cvrefugee

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Forgot about this thread. I went back to reassess the damage and it was minimal after all. The grill inserts popped back in and nothing was broken. The front spoiler still has a crack. It first happened about a year ago due to some retread that I ran over but now has grown larger with this latest incident. To replace the entire piece is under $500, so I'm not going to pursue the claim further. Thanks anyway, guys.
 

JEDIYoda

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Forgot about this thread. I went back to reassess the damage and it was minimal after all. The grill inserts popped back in and nothing was broken. The front spoiler still has a crack. It first happened about a year ago due to some retread that I ran over but now has grown larger with this latest incident. To replace the entire piece is under $500, so I'm not going to pursue the claim further. Thanks anyway, guys.
so you were going to try to rip off an insurance company to fix your car???? Is that the story now>???
 

jlee

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Forgot about this thread. I went back to reassess the damage and it was minimal after all. The grill inserts popped back in and nothing was broken. The front spoiler still has a crack. It first happened about a year ago due to some retread that I ran over but now has grown larger with this latest incident. To replace the entire piece is under $500, so I'm not going to pursue the claim further. Thanks anyway, guys.

Well, now we know that running over a cardboard box won't fix pre-existing damage.
 

TainToTain

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so you were going to try to rip off an insurance company to fix your car???? Is that the story now>???

Doesn't the fact that he inspected the damage before filing a claim, and decided to not proceed after finding that there was minimal damage show that he wasn't trying to rip off anyone?
 

JEDIYoda

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Doesn't the fact that he inspected the damage before filing a claim, and decided to not proceed after finding that there was minimal damage show that he wasn't trying to rip off anyone?
No because if you read the entire thread you would see that he was basically talked out of proceeding.....

He first inspected the supposed damage and then posted on these forums that he needed to get a license plate number because he wanted to report the damage......
 

cvrefugee

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I posted this in the morning, then went out later in the afternoon to take a closer look. That's when I noticed the damage wasn't that bad and decided not to file a claim. I'm not trying to rip anyone off. My mistake was to post this thread before seeing if I really was going to pursue filing a claim and waste everyone's time.
 
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