LIFE ... defined

Sep 29, 2004
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I am currently thinking about life. I am also drinking ... so be warned.

What is the point to life?

My mom is 80. She has survived cancer. She has met poor. She has met rich. And she has recently said things about life lately. What matters? It's not your job. Not your income. Not your social status. It is family. No one that is a bad family man and good business partner is remembered for being a good business partner. But the good family man is always remembered and loved.

My uncle just turned 80. We had a party. I never knew how loved he was. Well, I knew he deserved it. He is the epitome of patriarch. He is the kind of person that I would literally drive 500 miles for. Some did drive 500 miles for that party. I did but there were other circumstances for me being there. (I did plan to be there for that particular weekend). He is middle class I guess. I would do anything for him. It all comes down to his love for family.

So, I was wondering. What are the keys being the best family man? Google? Well, Google made me cry. is this really what civilization is turning into:

https://www.google.com/search?q=how....,cf.osb&fp=5c2ad6ec74fab5d7&biw=1600&bih=743
 

IcePickFreak

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Same as pretty much every other living thing on the planet, procreation to further your genes. Why should we be any different? (Not that we are) Being a 'family man' would fit in with that. I guess on the other hand you have stuff like turtles though, that have a ton of babies and abandon them - not that us humans would do such a thing. :hmm:

Right now we're at the stage that we're only smart enough to be dangerous. IMO our "self-awareness" threw a curve ball to the natural process. What other living creature questions it's existence or the meaning of life?


Ok, other than the octopus. I know they plot to rule the world.
 

lxskllr

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There is no point. Nihilism almost has it right, but there's no ethical base. You shouldn't be a dick, even if there's no sky fairy to punish you.
 

Farang

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There is no point. Nihilism almost has it right, but there's no ethical base. You shouldn't be a dick, even if there's no sky fairy to punish you.

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos
 

TheShiz

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just doing things because you want to be remembered well is a selfish ambition. If that is what you think the point of life is, have at it. Mother Teresa is thought of this way unless you dig deeper. there is a dark side.
 

elmer92413

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i think i would say that the point of life is life. life is its own purpose. life is about the experiences we all have. and the struggles to find our own meaning are a part of that. there may be good or bad ways to go about it, but i'd have to say that in the end it's just part of life and brings it round back to life being its own purpose. there is a quote out there about how we are the Universe experiencing/observing itself.
 

nanette1985

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Key to being a good family man - number one - be masculine
number two - acquire a family
number three - make up your own definition of good family man - number four - do number three
 

chusteczka

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Religious philosophy has contemplated the purpose of life for hundreds, if not thousands of years. But then many Americans feel religion has no purpose in their life. Hence such drunk musings.
 

elmer92413

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Religious philosophy has contemplated the purpose of life for hundreds, if not thousands of years. But then many Americans feel religion has no purpose in their life. Hence such drunk musings.

are you saying that meaning in life only comes through religion or that religion is the search for meaning in life?
 

Blieb

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Life is how YOU define it. Everyone is different ... you steer the ship ...
 

epidemis

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Same as pretty much every other living thing on the planet, procreation to further your genes.

That's not a point of life. That's only because the life we observe to today has obviously procreated. Life that has somehow existed earlier but for strange reasons didn't care to procreate didn't 'fail' or missed the point of life. They were just happy not reproducing themselves to latter days.
 

highland145

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82, died Thursday, March 15, 2012. Known by his family and friends as a Master Story Teller, “Folio Fred” Christensen’s story began on October 7th, 1929 in Savannah Georgia. Oh, what a wonderful story it is! Born to parents Frederick Holmes and Helen Burr Christensen, and the grandson of Harry Porter and Lila Collins Burr, and Neils and Abby M. Christensen, Fred grew up with the Low Country deep within his soul. Most of his stories evolve out of his youth where he attended high school in Beaufort South Carolina. His family played a vital role in this storied coastal town where they operated the lumber mill and hardware store. One only has to stroll the streets of Beaufort to see the fingerprints of Fred and his family throughout the town and the adventures of Folio Fred come to life.
Fred met the love of his life, Elizabeth (Betty) Schurmeier on the beach at Hunting Island and dedicated his life to her. Being a Master Story Teller requires an audience and nothing satisfies that need better than attentive children and grandchildren. The arrivals of Frederik H. (Catherine) Christensen, Benjamin B. (Lois) Christensen, David C (Cathy) Christensen, Elizabeth Anne (Kevin) Alleman and Margaret H. (Jeff) Ray soon followed. Stories never grow old but new audiences are always welcomed. Fred treasured the presence of his attentive grandchildren, Paul, Tim and Mark Christensen, Greg Hudspith, Michelle Seigler, Kimberly Boucher, Kasci Hutchenson, Collin, Abby and David Ray, and Heidi Alleman. Then came even more impressionable minds with his great- grandchildren, Gavin, Reagan, Tucker, Jonah, Rose, Lois, Henry, Cecile, Walter, Sophia, Kaeleigh, Skyelar and Palmer. A list of Fred’s family is not complete without mentioning his “adopted” daughter, Marlyn Abner. How blessed we all are that his tales will be recounted for generations.
Fred felt honored by the privilege of “fighting the cold war” through his service of 25 years at the Savannah River Plant. After receiving his education at Deerfield Academy in Mass., Amherst College and graduate studies at San Jose State, Fred brought his bride and young sons with a host of engineers to Aiken to design, construct and operate the “Bomb Plant”. While he was sworn to secrecy about his role at the plant, he was able to regale his offspring with tales of the wild turkey with two right feet, mutant alligators in par pond and other antics he played with the cast of characters he had the pleasure to work with at the Plant.
Retiring at a relatively early age, Fred began second careers as a pine tree farmer and moonshiner. Believing long ago that alternative fuels were key to this nation’s future, Clemson provided Fred with a still so that he could experiment with locally grown crops such as turnips to produce ethanol. Stories are told that as he “brewed” up some experiments, locals would come out of the woods to offer their opinions on his “fuel”. Now that the Bio-Mass project has begun at SRS, his early foray into this field has proven to be visionary.
Aiken felt the impact of Fred’s influence over the years. An Eagle Scout in his youth, he served the Boy Scouts of America for many years as a leader with Troop 110. As a story teller, he was naturally drawn to politics. He served on the Alcohol and Drug Commission as Chairman, served on the Aiken County Planning Commission, served as the County Chairman of the Republican Party, ran for the S.C. Senate, was a poll manager for 30 years and served on the Habitat for Humanity Board.
Fred was the developer of the Braeloch and Steeplechase subdivisions and participated in the establishment of All Saints Anglican Church where he served on the vestry and as a Sunday school teacher.
As this grand story neared the ending, Fred’s life was blessed with new friends who quickly were welcomed into the family. These caregivers listened with rapt attention to the stories of the tidewater marshes, defending our nation against the “evil empire” and the great adventures of Folio Fred. How fortunate we are that Melissa, Glenda, Francis, Paulette and Christine loved our Dad and cared for him as the last pages were turned.
A man with Faith as strong as granite, Fred was embraced in the loving arms of Jesus on Thursday the 15th of March. There is no better place to tell a story than gathered around the Thanksgiving table, Fred’s favorite day of the year. Today he is seated at the Heavenly table with his parents and in-laws along with his sister Maude Vaden and a host of other friends and family who preceded him, listening to the greatest story ever told with his Lord and Savior. Enjoy the Turkey Dad and save some pecan pie for us. We will see you soon!
The Family will share time with friends at Shellhouse Funeral Home on Hayne Avenue on Monday, March 19 between 5:00 and 7:00 PM. Services will be held at St. Johns United Methodist Church on Tuesday at 3:00 PM with The Reverend George Alexander and The Reverend Henry Sumerall presiding.




The fisher of men.
 

chusteczka

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are you saying that meaning in life only comes through religion or that religion is the search for meaning in life?

Neither, I am not religious and am not here to push such a lifestyle. However, the religious philosophy class at the university was fantastic and really opened my eyes to the philosophical focus religions have towards understanding the meaning of life.

I am also not saying that I have the answer. It just seemed interesting that America is pushing religion out of society while showing signs of not having religion for guidance.
 

Baked

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Life is just a stage for affliction. It will repeat infinitely until you're enlightened and escape the cycle of reincarnation.
 

elmer92413

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Neither, I am not religious and am not here to push such a lifestyle. However, the religious philosophy class at the university was fantastic and really opened my eyes to the philosophical focus religions have towards understanding the meaning of life.

I am also not saying that I have the answer. It just seemed interesting that America is pushing religion out of society while showing signs of not having religion for guidance.

Yes, it has been interesting to watch the slow move away from religion both here in the US and over in Europe where they have a head start. If you are interested I know there have been several articles on the matter especially from britain's perspective. It also seems to be specific to christianity and I would think that various eastern religions will fare better in the long run.
What was the focus of your class? I've taken a philosophy of religion which focused on western religions and explored philosophical ideas such as what it means for god to be all powerful. And then I took a class that was religious worldviews which explored both western and eastern religions and some of their basic tenets and some of their history.
 

OverVolt

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There is a comic that shows the usual monkeys evolving into humans.

All the first 4 monkeys are like "eat,survive, reproduce" "eat, survive, reproduce" then it gets to the human and its like "hey whats this all about!???"
 

Jaepheth

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lxskllr said:
There is no point. Nihilism almost has it right, but there's no ethical base. You shouldn't be a dick, even if there's no sky fairy to punish you.
Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos

If our society seems more nihilistic than that of previous eras, perhaps this is simply a sign of our maturity as a sentient species. As our collective consciousness expands beyond a crucial point, we are at last ready to accept life's fundamental truth: that life's only purpose is life itself.

Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Looking God in the Eye"
 
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