Life Expectancy of a NFL Player

[chuckywang]

It could be the steroids

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

I dont think its as much of the games toll on the body, rather than the type of people who play the game.. typically overly large people.

You dont see many people who are 6'4" and 275 live to be very old.

 

[Zebo]

Simple they get rich and fat and out of shape get on couch and heart gives out. Big men must stay in shape or they will die early. If they do stay in shape they can actually live longer than almost anyone because body is hearty and with weight loss it's nothing on it's structure. I'm talking resting HR of 40 or less in shape.

All NFL guys need to be looking like clint Eastwood as they hit 45 and not refrigerator perry. daily miles at the track and out of gym and McDonalds will do it.

 

[goog40]

These guys suffer a lifetime of pain for a few years of glory. Unless you're a kicker, it doesn't seem like it's worth it. It's hard to put a price on having the mobility of an 80 year-old man when you're 40. Not to mention all the brain injuries they suffer.

Earl Campbell has a dazzling assortment of rings that were given to him in honor of his storied accomplishments as a college and pro running back: the Heisman Trophy ring, the NFL Rookie of the Year ring, one MVP ring (though he was MVP three times) and the NFL Hall of Fame ring, but he wears none of them because of arthritis in both his hands, the ones that he used to push away pursuing tacklers. "Jim Brown and I were the best at the stiff-arm," says Campbell. "Now I can barely close my left fist -- the arthritis and the soreness and the pain."

Now 46 and the owner of a barbecue restaurant and a sausage-making business in Austin, Campbell winces at more than his swollen digits. His knees and back ache ceaselessly. He also has a condition called drop foot: As a result of nerve damage to his legs, he cannot raise the front of his feet when he lifts them off the ground to take a step. The feet flop along loosely when he walks. To use the bathroom upstairs from his home office, Campbell -- unable to grip with his hands or bend his knees--must lean his forearms on the railings and drag himself up the eight or 10 steps. The process is as painful to watch as it must be for Campbell to complete.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Those figures are incorrect. I suggest you do more research into this matter.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/footb...hestate-headgames.html

Studies in the United States show that men who play five or more years in the NFL have a life expectancy of 55, 20 years less than the average in the general public. For linemen, perhaps due to their size, the life expectancy is 52.

Yeah, I knew the second number was absolutely correct. I must say that I'm quite surprised about the first figure.

Could it be that the 85% of those in the NFL who only last 3 years die much younger? I'd guess the general public wouldn't hear about it because they were and remain unknown.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea its disturbing how often you see NFL players dying young. Other sports - particularly rugby - mock football players for wearing so many pads. Even with the pads, it takes a huge toll on the players. Did you know that the passing game evolved back in the early part of the 1900's as a mandate from Teddy Roosevelt, because so many people were dying on the field?

Hrm. Perhaps they should have started with the helmets/pads first?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ghost recon88

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Those figures are incorrect. I suggest you do more research into this matter.

http://www.nflplayers.com/user...&lmid=349&pid=0&type=l

The average length of an NFL career is about 3 and a half seasons. Although there are some exceptional players who have long careers that extend 10 or twelve seasons and beyond, most players only stay active for about three seasons. Players leave the game because of injury, self-induced retirement, or being cut by the team.

oh

One word replys = ban

You spelled replies wrong.

Someone is pissy about being wrong.

Actually I don't know anything about football.

Then why the flying fuck did you post?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

have you seen stories on aging linemen and defensemen? most of them "retire" in obscurity, living in assisted living, with walkers, and under constant pain for the rest of their lives.

I hear guys like Montana and Elway will lose sensation in their throwing arms for days on end.

Not Tom Brady, though. That guy hasn't taken a hit in his life.

 

[Lurknomore]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whats the average NFL salary? 500K?

If so, than a player with a 3.5 year career span will earn just under 2 million bucks. Roughly equivalent to a regular working Joe earning 50K over 40 years, but the NFLer get the $$ upfront an can do more with it.

Really?
If so, no sympathy for them.
They chose their profession, they get a relatively huge sum of money in a few years compared to the average lower-middle income worker over a few decades. A greater safety net for his kids and family early on, that's for sure, not to mention a nice house, investments, continued education if one chooses. And even with their injuries, there's no excuse to let go of your health later on.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

Of course it is. It's a decision that they make. As a fan I really don't give a shit. Owners, doctors, players, and the league officials should worry about that. Not me.

Originally posted by: Train

You dont see many people who are 6'4" and 275 live to be very old.

Shit, I'm 6'6" 250, I'm doomed eh?

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ghost recon88

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Those figures are incorrect. I suggest you do more research into this matter.

http://www.nflplayers.com/user...&lmid=349&pid=0&type=l

The average length of an NFL career is about 3 and a half seasons. Although there are some exceptional players who have long careers that extend 10 or twelve seasons and beyond, most players only stay active for about three seasons. Players leave the game because of injury, self-induced retirement, or being cut by the team.

oh

One word replys = ban

You spelled replies wrong.

Someone is pissy about being wrong.

Actually I don't know anything about football.

Then why the flying fuck did you post?

Ssshhhh. He just admitted he's not a man and he talks about things he knows nothing about. Let him keep going and see what else he says.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

Of course it is. It's a decision that they make. As a fan I really don't give a shit. Owners, doctors, players, and the league officials should worry about that. Not me.

There are preventive measures that could be taken. For example, there are new anti-concussion helmets that greatly reduce head trauma. Many high school and college programs are adopting these - no NFL teams though, too expensive! The health care plans available to retired players is terrible.

As a fan, am I saying I should go out and do something about it? Of course not, there's nothing I can do. Am I concerned? Of course, I'm a fucking human being, why wouldn't I be?

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: goog40
These guys suffer a lifetime of pain for a few years of glory. Unless you're a kicker, it doesn't seem like it's worth it. It's hard to put a price on having the mobility of an 80 year-old man when you're 40. Not to mention all the brain injuries they suffer.

Earl Campbell has a dazzling assortment of rings that were given to him in honor of his storied accomplishments as a college and pro running back: the Heisman Trophy ring, the NFL Rookie of the Year ring, one MVP ring (though he was MVP three times) and the NFL Hall of Fame ring, but he wears none of them because of arthritis in both his hands, the ones that he used to push away pursuing tacklers. "Jim Brown and I were the best at the stiff-arm," says Campbell. "Now I can barely close my left fist -- the arthritis and the soreness and the pain."

Now 46 and the owner of a barbecue restaurant and a sausage-making business in Austin, Campbell winces at more than his swollen digits. His knees and back ache ceaselessly. He also has a condition called drop foot: As a result of nerve damage to his legs, he cannot raise the front of his feet when he lifts them off the ground to take a step. The feet flop along loosely when he walks. To use the bathroom upstairs from his home office, Campbell -- unable to grip with his hands or bend his knees--must lean his forearms on the railings and drag himself up the eight or 10 steps. The process is as painful to watch as it must be for Campbell to complete.

Man thats kinda sad, there was a special on the lives of ex-49ers in the paper a while back, apparently Joe Montana can only move his neck in one direction.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

You dont see many people who are 6'4" and 275 live to be very old.

You must not have seen very many people in your day then.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Deeko

There are preventive measures that could be taken. For example, there are new anti-concussion helmets that greatly reduce head trauma. Many high school and college programs are adopting these - no NFL teams though, too expensive! The health care plans available to retired players is terrible.

As a fan, am I saying I should go out and do something about it? Of course not, there's nothing I can do. Am I concerned? Of course, I'm a fucking human being, why wouldn't I be?

Well I find it pointless to be concerned about something that you cant control. I certainly don't want to see players get hurt though.

 

[Oil]

McGahee had a major knee injury in college during the national championship game. Do you suggest that college players should get paid?

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
It could be the steroids

It could also just be a matter of size straining the heart. Maybe most of those mountains of a man would not live any longer if they never played football. Heck, maybe they'd die sooner for all we know. Very difficult to make a reasonably certain jump from correlation to causation in this case.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea its disturbing how often you see NFL players dying young. Other sports - particularly rugby - mock football players for wearing so many pads. Even with the pads, it takes a huge toll on the players. Did you know that the passing game evolved back in the early part of the 1900's as a mandate from Teddy Roosevelt, because so many people were dying on the field?

Hrm. Perhaps they should have started with the helmets/pads first?

It's not correct anyway. American Football during the late 19th century was basically just rugby with a few (dangerous) rule tweaks. That was the game Teddy banned. Modern American Football rose from that, but has very little in common with the turn of the 20th century game of American Football.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Regardless of what the exact numbers are - its still off putting that football puts that much of a toll on a players' body. I assume you're not saying its ok that if someone makes a career out of the NFL, they die in middle age?

Of course it is. It's a decision that they make. As a fan I really don't give a shit. Owners, doctors, players, and the league officials should worry about that. Not me.

Originally posted by: Train

You dont see many people who are 6'4" and 275 live to be very old.

Shit, I'm 6'6" 250, I'm doomed eh?

Be sure to post on your 55th birthday. If you make it...

 

[Zebo]

You'll be fine tall bill if you maintain a low resting HR. Start running. 230 would be preferable at that height once you hit 35 but the real key is low HR so it does not expire.

My dad is 70 and 6'3" 220 and was an offensive lineman size when young like 280 - anyway today he is in better shape than most 25 year olds because he has run 7 miles a day since about 45 years old. His buddies are dropping off like flies and he can play vollyball with sexy 21 year olds at beach.

I think he can *still* whoop my ass and he never got that "old mans" drooping skin yet

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: TallBill
Some big fail at math here. If the average age of death of a player that plays 5 years is 55 and the average years played in the NFL is 3.5, then the average age of death of an NFL player is not 55.

Actually we got some big fail at people getting the big picture.

I'm not a photographer.

I am.
And I still dont get the big picture.

If it was so rough they would quit. Obviously they care more about the money and the game.
Live fast, die young.
Or something to that effect.

 

[ViviTheMage]

This is why i'd like to be on the bench if I was in the NFL, so I didn't get banged up so badly

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: ghost recon88

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Those figures are incorrect. I suggest you do more research into this matter.

http://www.nflplayers.com/user...&lmid=349&pid=0&type=l

The average length of an NFL career is about 3 and a half seasons. Although there are some exceptional players who have long careers that extend 10 or twelve seasons and beyond, most players only stay active for about three seasons. Players leave the game because of injury, self-induced retirement, or being cut by the team.

oh

One word replys = ban

first up in the 2009 year in bans...

 

[Cattlegod]

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[BabaBooey]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Is this stemming from that hit on Willis McGhee tonight? I wonder if he's okay?

Man that was a crushing hit,knocked him out instantly,you could see his arms and legs were stiff,hope he is o.k. and just got his bell rung good.