Life Goals before goals don't matter anymore?

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deadlyapp

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I've thought about that a little....and it could be cool. I would have to raid my retirement savings for capital to do it though.... (and would incur pretty significant penalties as a result) I just don't have enough liquid assets because I've been geared for debt repayment and spent the last 7 years dealing with daycare bills. Maybe I can start saving up cash for that.
If you are interested in a business, best thing to do is find something you like the idea of and get involved in some way to find out if it really interests you, and if you plan on treating it like a hobby or a side income. Once you've established that, you can generally find someone already established that might be willing to sell to you, or partner you in.

For the gym I opened, I found someone locally that was very motivated to sell and he ended up cutting a deal with me to pay monthly installments to purchase the assets. It was a win win for both of us as he was able to get out very easily and keep his current members happy, and it allowed me to buy in quickly without having to liquidate some of my personal assets (I was not very cash flush after buying a house and other things).
 

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How old are your kids? Mine are in elementary and middle school and just started getting into sports. We never pushed it at younger ages (honestly with works schedules traveling sports were not viable). But with my elementary kid I've been helping out a lot with his cross country practices and it's been a very fun experience. I'd like to get more involved with that. Even if it's not a formal "coaching" position, simply being able to help has been interesting and enjoyable.
 

Scarpozzi

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The only thing thatb really matters that is on my bucket list is to live each day to the fullest!!
I enjoy mixing the days up. I have some days that I pu
How old are your kids? Mine are in elementary and middle school and just started getting into sports. We never pushed it at younger ages (honestly with works schedules traveling sports were not viable). But with my elementary kid I've been helping out a lot with his cross country practices and it's been a very fun experience. I'd like to get more involved with that. Even if it's not a formal "coaching" position, simply being able to help has been interesting and enjoyable.
5 and 7 years old. T-ball, soccer, piano lessons, and cub scouts so far... We are not pushing anybody to do anything....just letting them follow interests where it works. It's really tough when some of these activities schedule to meet at 5 p.m. on weeknights.... It's obvious that too many people in this country don't work.
 

Zeze

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What, you have two college tuitions to pay for.

Why dont you take up financial independence since life is going well
 

Zeze

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It's obvious that too many people in this country don't work.

You mean unable to work or financially unable?

I mean you've been through it yourself. With kids, every parents are forced to ask themselves if their career salary exceeds 2 daycare tuitions.

Most industries cant - teachers, blue collar, etc
 

purbeast0

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My recent life goal was to get SCUBA certified. And after doing so, my goal is to now travel to even more tropical places to dive as much as possible. I also want to find a remote job that pays as well as my current job so that I could move to a tropical place and dive year round on my weekends. That is somewhat of a goal but with the PTO I get now, taking a trip 4-5 times a year keeps me pretty satisfied.

A life goal will be to retire on a Caribbean island and buy property. But I'm nowhere near that now.
 

purbeast0

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I enjoy mixing the days up. I have some days that I pu

5 and 7 years old. T-ball, soccer, piano lessons, and cub scouts so far... We are not pushing anybody to do anything....just letting them follow interests where it works. It's really tough when some of these activities schedule to meet at 5 p.m. on weeknights.... It's obvious that too many people in this country don't work.
Or people work jobs that aren't 9-5. I'm out of work by 2pm every day and can basically work whatever times I want as long as I put my time in, and home from the gym after work by like 3:45. It's going to be perfect when my son is in Kindergarten next year and he gets off at 4pm. I took him to karate today at 5:30pm after being home with him for an hour and a half.

Not everyone works the terrible hours of 9-5 where you don't even get to see daylight in the winter time.
 

Scarpozzi

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Or people work jobs that aren't 9-5. I'm out of work by 2pm every day and can basically work whatever times I want as long as I put my time in, and home from the gym after work by like 3:45. It's going to be perfect when my son is in Kindergarten next year and he gets off at 4pm. I took him to karate today at 5:30pm after being home with him for an hour and a half.

Not everyone works the terrible hours of 9-5 where you don't even get to see daylight in the winter time.
That's awesome. I understand a lot of larger metro areas allow that to keep people from wasting time in morning gridlock and for other situations where having traditional business hours aren't a necessity for the business. Unfortunately....I work for an organization in a smaller city that has less flexibility in daily hours...and I support other people's jobs...so I need to be there. Once I get my debt paid off and essentially shrink my financial needs...who knows. I could branch out and do anything.
 

brianmanahan

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i get flexible work hours

like 7 AM to 9 PM (and counting, hopefully i'll be done by midnight)
 

Red Squirrel

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lol that's not what I would call flexible. Unless it means working several of those shifts means you get lot of time off.

I work shift work so the more 12h shifts I work the more time off I get since we're still based on an average 40h week, so it's worth it. I always ask to work more 12s.
 

Zeze

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I had the best hours in my old client.

WFH whenever you want, just do your job well and respond promptly. And every single day for the last 36 mos, I went home around 2-3pm to log in from home
 
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So what then. Don't have kids, career, and house?
No, but if you do, do those things because you want to, not because you feel like you have to in order to keep up with somebody else or because it's expected of you.
 

JJChicken

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Interesting thread. To add my 2c: I was in a great job, great pay and great career progression (offered a promotion). This was in Sydney and in an industry where it was very hard to get a good job. Great work life balance

However I wanted to do some more exciting business related work and not just supporting others. So I declined the promotion, moved to the other side of the world into a brand new profession. Unfortunately it didn’t work out, not for reasons in my control,
and my life took a significant step back.

Now I can’t go back to the life I had. What I wanted to say is there is always risk in life, people always tell us to take risks, and its right that we need to be ambitious chasing goals, but also remember that risk means not only that you could do very well but that you could fail spectacularly.

Still I’m very happy, because I knew I couldn’t live with myself without taking the risk of this venture. Lifes all about getting knocked down and coming up again! You only learn through trials and tribulation and as somebody else mentioned its all about the journey.

So in conclusion - dont underestimate the risks and make sure you are comfortable with failing but at the same time live your full life
 

Dr. Detroit

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I've accomplished so much - Life partner, kid who is now a college graduate, professional career, professional certification, couple of commas in investable assets. Coming up on 45 and looking to bow out of the workforce as I can not accomplish my life dreams with a demanding full time job.

I want to travel/explore without a return date, I have endless miles of trails I want to hike, I have so many things I've set aside to focus my best years on my family and my career. Its my time soon, before its too late, as I too fear the calendar.
 

brianmanahan

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Interesting thread. To add my 2c: I was in a great job, great pay and great career progression (offered a promotion). This was in Sydney and in an industry where it was very hard to get a good job. Great work life balance

However I wanted to do some more exciting business related work and not just supporting others. So I declined the promotion, moved to the other side of the world into a brand new profession. Unfortunately it didn’t work out, not for reasons in my control,
and my life took a significant step back.

Now I can’t go back to the life I had. What I wanted to say is there is always risk in life, people always tell us to take risks, and its right that we need to be ambitious chasing goals, but also remember that risk means not only that you could do very well but that you could fail spectacularly.

Still I’m very happy, because I knew I couldn’t live with myself without taking the risk of this venture. Lifes all about getting knocked down and coming up again! You only learn through trials and tribulation and as somebody else mentioned its all about the journey.

So in conclusion - dont underestimate the risks and make sure you are comfortable with failing but at the same time live your full life

sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing. i think there is a lot of confirmation bias in success stories that we hear about, where people say "if i did it then anyone can!" theoretically yes but realistically no. there is quite a bit of chance involved.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I never cared about having kids and never really cared about a “career;” all I really wanted to do was make enough money to buy stuff for my hobbies and travel. I’ve pretty much accomplished those things. Now, I’m just tired and wish I could take a year or two off and really do nothing. I’ve traveled a ton the last few years and I even want a break from that.
 

clamum

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I've never really guided my life by goals. I've just kinda held on for the ride and have gone where the current takes me. It's worked out pretty well. I'm a super laid back person, if you haven't guessed.

My only complaint is I'm 36 and single. Haven't had a girlfriend for like 14 years or so (God how embarrassing). I struggled with alcohol for some years and that was my focus but I've been sober for six years now.

I've gone on a whole one date via eharmony a couple years or so ago. It just sucks being so introverted and shy. I guess I'm supposed to put more energy and time into online dating but jeez it seems like I have almost zero chance of getting someone there. The only girls that have shown any interest at all are a few overweight girls. Sorry but I'm just not attracted to them. I really don't think my standards are too high; heck I think most women are good looking I just don't find overweight girls attractive. It's not like I'm some super specimen myself, I get that.

I feel like since I don't have all these pictures of me traveling the world and rock climbing and whatnot that I'm just ignored. Sorry but that's just not me. It's not like I don't like doing anything but I just tend to be more of a homebody. I think if I had a partner though I'd get out more, vaguest it sucks always having to do things by yourself.
 

biostud

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I don't set goals, I just live my life as I want it. I have a nice job, gf, 2 kids a 3rd on its way, just bought a house and I have a loving family, so I just enjoy life and see what happens.
 
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mikeymikec

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In no particular order:

1 - Learn German to a fluent level (my wife is from Germany) - this one tends to get put on the backburner whenever unexpected stuff happens.
2 - Shake off osteoporosis (I got diagnosed a year ago, as my brother and mum has it, we suspect a genetic predisposition) through exercise and meds.
3 - Make it through life without Crohn's disease fucking up any more of my life than it already has.
4 - Have a worthwhile pension ready for retirement.

Those are probably the firm goals, lots of airy-fairy ones knocking around upstairs otherwise. Provided my business keeps going, that's an achievement I've been happy with for some time.
 

JJChicken

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I've never really guided my life by goals. I've just kinda held on for the ride and have gone where the current takes me. It's worked out pretty well. I'm a super laid back person, if you haven't guessed.

My only complaint is I'm 36 and single. Haven't had a girlfriend for like 14 years or so (God how embarrassing). I struggled with alcohol for some years and that was my focus but I've been sober for six years now.

I've gone on a whole one date via eharmony a couple years or so ago. It just sucks being so introverted and shy. I guess I'm supposed to put more energy and time into online dating but jeez it seems like I have almost zero chance of getting someone there. The only girls that have shown any interest at all are a few overweight girls. Sorry but I'm just not attracted to them. I really don't think my standards are too high; heck I think most women are good looking I just don't find overweight girls attractive. It's not like I'm some super specimen myself, I get that.

I feel like since I don't have all these pictures of me traveling the world and rock climbing and whatnot that I'm just ignored. Sorry but that's just not me. It's not like I don't like doing anything but I just tend to be more of a homebody. I think if I had a partner though I'd get out more, vaguest it sucks always having to do things by yourself.

Don’t be too hard on yourself, girls actually dig introverts a lot. I would suggest Coffee Meets Bagle app, my friends been using that one.

Make sure to have a good photo though - thats the hardest part - no iPhone selfies!
 
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