Lifelong Android User Going iphone

jacktesterson

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I'm so going to get nailed for this by my friends.

I'm a phone junkie, in particular, a Android phone junkie.


Long Story Short - Work just gave me an iphone 5 with unlimited calling and a 1GB of data on it - I'm selling my Android phones this morning.


Due to some security policies, I can only get my work email and calendar on an iphone - and I've been putting it off as long as I can.

Welcome to the world of iTunes.
 

hans007

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that sucks. and its sad, given how slow IT policies take to form, companies are just latching onto the iphone now, that android is like 80% of new phone sales. probably some initiative some IT director came up with 1-2 years ago.
 

dougp

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that sucks. and its sad, given how slow IT policies take to form, companies are just latching onto the iphone now, that android is like 80% of new phone sales. probably some initiative some IT director came up with 1-2 years ago.

No, there's a few reasons why.

Closed environment - not easy to prevent corporate security policies on your device.
Easy to use - let's just say that not everyone is tech savvy.
Singular device - easier to support
Simple upgrade cycle
 

bearxor

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When we shifted from BlackBerry, we gave an equal distribution of iPhones and Android devices to employees, a few hundred of them. The Android devices had, by far, the most support calls. And most were really simple usage things, but difficult for people to figure out on their own.

Unfortunately, it was Gingerbread-era. I think the Android devices would have a much better chance now, but the decision has already been made. On top of that, the management here feels that iPhone 4's are more than sufficient for everything, whereas the free Android phones aren't very good.

And OP, try using your phone without iTunes. You probably won't have an issue. I've not hooked my phone up to a computer in the last 4 years except to do software updates before they were OTA and to jailbreak.
 

jacktesterson

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Also - The company CEO having strong ties to Apple I'm sure doesn't help.

I don't work for a small company unfortunately.
 
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jacktesterson

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Yeah - Other negative thing - I can't Jailbreak my phone


Oh well, guess it will be interesting getting used to a new OS. I am also coming from a Note II currently so the screen size is going to be slightly different.
 

DefDC

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Yeah - Other negative thing - I can't Jailbreak my phone


Oh well, guess it will be interesting getting used to a new OS. I am also coming from a Note II currently so the screen size is going to be slightly different.

Yuck. My company won't give out more than flip phones. (And I'm in IT!) I choose to buy my own device and just forward the number to my Nexus.
 

luv2liv

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i cant stand iphones. puny screen. horrible audio for music.
but my company is going that route too. oh well, heres to almost unlimited data plan. so i shouldnt complain too much
 

openwheel

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sorry buddy! You can always get a Nexus 7 and tether to it, but with only 1GB of data on the road, it'll be tough..
 

jacktesterson

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I don't actually use a lot of Data

I work in the Tech Field and there is an area in my city where it's all tech companies, and the entire area is under a City provided free Wi-fi. Its only 1.5Mbps, but its enough for most things.

I'm on High speed Wifi in my office and at home.

I only average a few hundred MB of data a month to be honest.




Positives - Cancelling my personal bill, saves me $65 a month.
 

Red Storm

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Positives - Cancelling my personal bill, saves me $65 a month.

Well at least there's one good thing to be happy about.

My work pays my phone bill, doesn't matter what phone or plan I have, as long as it's $80 or less per month.
 

CVSiN

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No, there's a few reasons why.

Closed environment - not easy to prevent corporate security policies on your device.
Easy to use - let's just say that not everyone is tech savvy.
Singular device - easier to support
Simple upgrade cycle

this is all FUD.

All the modern androids can be closed and secured for corporate use with very little work.
JB is super easy for even non techies that never picked up a phone before once IT sets up the email.
If the company buys only 1 or 2 types of devices the same way we did with Blackberrys this is a non issue.
Upgrade cycle is simplified if you do the above.

Our company is 100% android ( at mine and my bosses urging)
Basically you just received an obsolete phone that was lackluster when it was released in comparison to its competitors.
 

PowerYoga

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my previous company switched to galaxy s3s before I left. They had a customized app (not sure if they had a custom rom too) that let them implement the security, including something that erased your phone if you guessed the password wrong 10 times, as well as other tracking/encryption and security features that I never bothered to look into since I was leaving.

Reason they didn't want to use iphones was that they couldn't do what they wanted for the security because of the closed environment. Imagine that.
 

dougp

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this is all FUD.

All the modern androids can be closed and secured for corporate use with very little work.
I can bypass this extremely easily with a modded client.
JB is super easy for even non techies that never picked up a phone before once IT sets up the email.
Yes & no, we still get a lot of complaints from some of our older users.
If the company buys only 1 or 2 types of devices the same way we did with Blackberrys this is a non issue.
Standardizing 1 or 2 Android devices is no different than the iPhones. Except I can use an iPhone across all carriers - can't say the same for all Android devices.
Upgrade cycle is simplified if you do the above.

Our company is 100% android ( at mine and my bosses urging)
Basically you just received an obsolete phone that was lackluster when it was released in comparison to its competitors.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer Android as well, but given the overwhelming majority of my users also own iPads, they benefit from the combined ecosystem.
 

dougp

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my previous company switched to galaxy s3s before I left. They had a customized app (not sure if they had a custom rom too) that let them implement the security, including something that erased your phone if you guessed the password wrong 10 times, as well as other tracking/encryption and security features that I never bothered to look into since I was leaving.

Reason they didn't want to use iphones was that they couldn't do what they wanted for the security because of the closed environment. Imagine that.

Don't use Exchange? We enforce that easily, and we also use the iPhone Configuration Utility where you can do all that.
 

Spineshank

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Don't use Exchange? We enforce that easily, and we also use the iPhone Configuration Utility where you can do all that.

You can do it in Notes too. You can also get 3rd party software that controls pretty much everything. Doesnt matter if its Android, iOS, or Windows.
 

Oyeve

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I support both iphone and android users on my companies network. Its really a non-issue. I myself have both an s4 and an iphone 5 and they both work flawlessly on my companies network. I have enforced security on both device types and never have any problems or issues.
 

Anubis

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we currently support both, and you can use your personal phone if you want. IT just installs the custom security and mail aps and you are good to go. We have a pretty good mix of IOS and android here. Some still on BB

most people who have a company phone opt to not get a smartphone because they absoutly dont want to get email on it
 

SAWYER

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ugghh I couldnt imagine having to be stuck with an iphone
 
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openwheel

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I don't actually use a lot of Data

I work in the Tech Field and there is an area in my city where it's all tech companies, and the entire area is under a City provided free Wi-fi. Its only 1.5Mbps, but its enough for most things.

I'm on High speed Wifi in my office and at home.

I only average a few hundred MB of data a month to be honest.




Positives - Cancelling my personal bill, saves me $65 a month.

good thing you are not on the road for the job, I wouldn't be able to travel with 1GB of data.
 

sweenish

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When we shifted from BlackBerry, we gave an equal distribution of iPhones and Android devices to employees, a few hundred of them. The Android devices had, by far, the most support calls. And most were really simple usage things, but difficult for people to figure out on their own.

A friend of mine that does IT for a law firm has a BYOD policy, and his experience is the exact opposite. The people with Android sets don't really call in at all.

I think the main difference being that in his situation, he's dealing with people that chose their phone, instead of being handed one.
 
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A friend of mine that does IT for a law firm has a BYOD policy, and his experience is the exact opposite. The people with Android sets don't really call in at all.

I think the main difference being that in his situation, he's dealing with people that chose their phone, instead of being handed one.

There's probably fewer users who will setup their Android phone to use Exchange mail? Or in general if its too difficult, the masses won't set it up.
 
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