Lifes not worth living for

[Mrfrog840]

Anyone ever felt like there is no point to life? I dont know why i have been thinking about this lately. Committing suicide was always an option but i dont think my parents could deal with that. Can anyone direct me in some help?

 

[johnjohn320]

Amen.

 

Psych ward at the hospital.


<< i dont think my parents could deal with that. >>


You dont want to kill yourself, if you did, you would not say that.

 

[IcemanJer]

Dude, getting 14 &quot;1&quot; rating isn't worth killing yourself for..

 

[Passions]

lol that sucks iceman.

 

[Elledan]

It's always worth it to live for assimilating knowledge and using it.

Believe me, suicide is even more pointless than any way of living. At least you can improve things while you're alive.

Suicide can be compared to just giving up; curling up in a dark corner and never come out of it. Find a reason to keep fighting. There's one.

 

[Jothaxe]

<< Anyone ever felt like there is no point to life? ... Can anyone direct me in some help? >>



Sounds like you need to find yourself a cause in this life!

Do you have stong feelings about any issues/hobbies/anything?

 

[Nitatoe]

psychcentral.com hang in.

 

[Mrfrog840]

i have tried suicide unsuccessfully though. What, i have like 5 TRUE friends that would be there for me in a crisis of some kind. Unlike some people i know (not the 1.90 rating that was because of my mustang post(if you remember that)). Hey if i did committ suicide then it would be all over. Id go to a better place at least

 

[Elledan]

<< Id go to a better place at least>>

The void?

 

[yobarman]

people who fail at suicide realize that they're just bad at doing another thing.

Anyways hang in there, there's one thing to live for..and that's ________ .

 

[silhoutte]

Mrfrog,
I too have contemplated suicide most of my life and have always had that question, like a splinter that won't go away. Many times, I think of suicide when a certain pain is really strong and death seems a &quot;good&quot; alternative to this pain.

Most people commit suicide in order to stop emotional pain and/or grief.

Luckily, I have begun to find a happiness that is almost boundless after many years of searching and questioning things. I encourage you to do not give up life since you are a special person in yourself. Though I have not meant you, I know you have some great positive attributes and your potential is even greater!

Life can get better. Open you mind and heart and the world can be as beautiful as your eyes can stand and as happy as your heart can feel. I know these words might not be exactly what you are in need of now, but I too would mourn you death if you were to take your life.

May I suggest you speak with a couselor or a psychologist. My road was a different path but upon reflection, I believe a psychologist could be really beneficial for me at that time. If you would like to talk further and don't feel comfortable in this open forum, please feel free to PM me.

For myself, I have come to the conclusion that the point of my life is happiness and I have begun moving myself and my lifestyle towards that. Bless us, for we are blessed that you are alive.

{edited} for grammer.

 

[Mrfrog840]

I can tell you one thing. I have tons of fake friends out there that use me. I have my Computer Business thats doing alright for me being only 16. The only hobby i have is wakeboarding/jetskiing/4-wheeling. Those are all temporary though. None of the fun lasts

 

[Jothaxe]

<< None of the fun lasts >>



&quot;fun&quot; never lasts for that long. Thats just the nature of fun.

Thats why I advocate a very disciplined form of hedonism. I say maximize pleasure, but NOT in the short-term. Lots of things that are pleasurable in the short-term destroyed lives and make people miserable down the road.

Do things that bring long-term happiness, not just things that are fun.

One thing that always seems to work: help other people. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter or a hospital. This sounds cheesy as hell, I know, but it really works. Lose yourself serving/helping others. Its not easy to do, but it gets results. Try it.

 

[FriedToast]

MrFrog- Life's a difficult road to travel. It's my thinking that we've all come to the point where we don't want to keep going any further. But we have to hold on and keep going. I'm the last person to say that I know what life's all about. I have absolutely no idea. But there's a beauty to life if you can look past the negativity in the world. There's a vibrant world out there waiting to be explored. If you have 5 &quot;real&quot; friends, you're far ahead of a lot of other ppl, IMO. It's difficult to find &quot;real&quot; friends. There are plenty of vultures hanging around waiting to use ppl- especially when they're down. Just be careful.

Go find your friends and talk to them about this. Let ppl know. Being alone doesn't help- it makes it worse. When you have friends with you, it's a great help. You're not alone. You have them, you have your parents (who obviously care a lot if you're scared about them missing you) and, you have the ppl on this board. If ppl didn't care, they wouldn't say anything or encourage you to move on through the bad times.

It's tough, but just keep going, guy. You'll make it through. Just don't feel bad about asking for help when help's needed. You sound pretty on-the-ball to me. I was doing janitorial work at 16. No way I would've been doing my own computer store type stuf. Have a little faith in yourself, friend. Life isn't all bad

 

[GL]

Dude, get with the program. You have 5 friends that care about you. Committing suicide because you think of yourself rather poorly would really hurt your friends - in fact, it's rather offensive. Do you think your friends are stupid? Of course not. But only stupid people would hang around somebody of a stature that you think of yourself as having.

You're obviously worth more than you think, and those 5 people that really care about you and aren't family just reinforce this fact.

Most people commit suicide not because of how their life is, but because of how they perceive their life to be. Granted, we all go through tough periods. Just rest assured that a low point is always always always followed by a high point.

Go see a doctor. If you don't have a doctor you could open up to, find one who you can open up to. Depression is the most underdiagnosed illness. Additionally, go open up to a friend or family member who you confide in.

I've had the crappiest start to a year that I've ever had in my life. A girl caused me grief. School caused me to absolutely freak out. So believe me, there are times that suicide seems to me like the easiest way out. And yet, the past couple of weeks have really put things into perspective for me. To put it bluntly, I'm having a blast and it has made me deprioritiz a lot of the things that were causing me some worries. I can go back to school and have a fresh start next year. The girl that caused me grief (we were going out for 3 years)...well we're on talking terms and I've come to grips with the fact that we're no longer going out. And in the mean time, I'm enjoying having all my good old friends back from their out-of-town universities.

Don't dwell on the negatives. You can live weeks without food, days without water, but you can't live a few hours without hope. Things do get better...just remember that.

-GL

 

[compuwiz1]

Suicide is a waste of a potentially great person, and more importantly, a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Things pass, time goes on, and things get behind us in no time. Give time a chance. Someday, you will look back and see what you have to live for, and really be thankful that you did not chose something so final.

Hang in there. It's tough being young.

 

[Cycad]

As you can see by the responses here you are not alone in your thinking, I think everyone thinnks about suicide at one time or another, but you have to learn that life is all about happiness, it wouldn't be worth living if there were no happiness and that might be what you are going through now but it will come around and it is even better if you go out and find it. I know I have thought about suicide but there are so many things that I want to do and if you feel stuck in a situation than you need to free yourself and your mind and break free from what is holding you back from experiencing the joys of life. I know it all sounds good when people tell you these things and it is easy to sit here and tell you that things will get better, but you have to just hang in there, and you will find out for yourself.

 

[vapor22]

Was thinking the exact same thing!! Think about it all the time. Except that I only start thinking about it when it's FINALS TIME. arghh, when does the hurting stop. someone just put me down out of my misery. d@mn you EE curriculum

 

[Asubit]

One thing that always seems to work: help other people. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter or a hospital. This sounds cheesy as hell, I know, but it really works

even if i never agree with you on political or philosophy issues this is without a doubt a good piece of advice.

 

[reitz]

Mrfrog840,

Life is always worth living for. I've been there (thank God for Paxil), and I can promise you that no matter how bad it gets, life can always get better. I was suicidal (for at least the fourth time in my life) only four months ago, but my world has done a 180 in recent months, thanks to the help I finally sought. Two weeks ago, I broke down and cried tears of joy after walking outside to 75 degree weather and heavy sunshine, simply because the emotion it effected in me was one I had forgotten was even possible. It is simply amazing to have my life back.

You don't know why you've been &quot;...thinking about this...&quot; lately because there is no rational (at least not to you, or anyone in your position) reason why you should. It's all in your head (be it chemically or psychologically), whether you realize it or not. Ignore those who tell you that finding your purpose in life, volunteering, engaging in new activities, or finding things that you enjoy is the answer. It is not.

Leaving town, bailing on your responsibilities, finding new friends, or offing yourself will not help you, either. You need to seek professional help. Maybe you are just one of the unlucky ones who deals with this for no reason, or maybe you have some unresolved issues to deal with. In either case, a trained professional can help you discover the solution to your problems. It won't be an &quot;overnight cure,&quot; though. Medications can be prescribed, but they take time to kick in. Counseling can help, but it is a long struggle to pinpoint the cause of your feelings. It takes time, but don't let that discourage you; anyone can overcome it.

Most importantly, keep in mind that those who tell you to &quot;Just get over it...&quot; or &quot;You need to just make yourself be happy&quot; are so full of shit that they are unable to comprehend just how ignorant they are, or how moronic they sound. Trust me, I've spent enough time on both sides of the fence that I know what I'm talking about. Those who have never been there, but believe that they have all of the answers, are the ones who need to experience what you are going through the most.

There are a few things you can try on your own: Exercise, it is one of the best natural mood lifters known. Force yourself to engage in the activities that you used to enjoy; forgoing those now only amplifies your situation. Talk to a friend about your feelings; it may help you put things in perspective, but most importantly it will give you someone else who can keep an eye on you. Don't drink alcohol...alcohol is a CNS depressant, with terrible next-day effects, and while it might give you a temporary reprieve, it will only make life worse in the long run. There are many more: Check out www.depression.org for more information.

PM me or email me if you need anything. Like I said, I've been there, and I can offer some insights that may make things easier to deal with. I've been through horrors that the average person can not begin to comprehend, so I know of which I speak.

 

[uncouth]

<< hang in there >>

isn't this a bit inappropriate to say to someone contemplating ending their life?

 

[reitz]

uncouth,

Go fsck yourself.

 

[BlueScreenVW]

reitz: I must disagree in part with your (generally very wise) post. Activities are good even for a genuine depression. That said, it's hard to fully engage in any while you're already deep down. Especially social situations can be very tough, although for some it's being alone that's the worst part. Anyway, here's some general advice (coming from a senior medical student, but not an educated psychiatrist).

1. Seek professional help, just as reitz said. Also, even if you don't feel willing to start taking any antidepressive drugs, you should go to a physician before going to a psychologist. There you can get a proper hormonal scan, and also good information about the side effects (generally mild) of modern antidepressive drugs. Btw, these drugs are usually very effective, if you decide to try them. Going to a psychologist will almost certainly not help at all you if what you have is a genuine depression (in the sense that neurohormonal levels/receptors are disturbed), but cost you a lot of money.

2. Exercise is excellent, and so are all kinds of activities you feel interested in. But, taking part in activities can be pretty difficult at times you're down, so only do this if you feel up to it - otherwise it's useless.

3. Face the problem. Most likely your life isn't what's wrong here: it's your mind. On the other hand, chances of effective treatment are big. Nowadays most doctors are aware of the fact that even if you will eventually grow out of most teenage depressions, they are still just as real as adult depressions (and need to be treated with the same care). That said: remember you'll grow out of it!

I hope you'll feel better soon!

 

[bugsysiegel]

&quot;Suicide doesn't just happen, it comes about when pain overcomes the ability to cope.&quot; Can't remember exactly where I read that. But if you are 16 and life already seems to be that pointless, I would definately follow the advice given here and find something with some meaning. Help someone who needs it, find a cause to fight for, a charity to donate time to, anything. Most importantly, talk to someone. Hey, look at all the people here at these forums, none of us know you, and we all seem to think that it would be a terrible waste for you to do anything drastic! Talk to your parents, talk to a teacher or counselor, I'm not even religous, but talking to a priest or minister or whatever might be the answer for you! At the very least one of these people will be able to point you in the right direction!

I've been in some really, really tight spots. Things weren't dark, they were pitch black! It was terrible. But even then, I was thinking, tomorrow has to be better. It wasn't, but the day after that was a little better, and the day after that was too. I swear to you, as crappy as life is sometimes, one day you will look back and go, gee, it sucked, but it was only a little bit of time in the overall span of things.

Hey, my contact info is in my profile, if you just want someone to talk to, contact me! Maybe that's my purpose in life, to keep you going to fulfill your destiny! Who knows? Not me.