Light storage device?

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SilentSin

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Assume you could make two perfectly flat mirrors also perfectly parallel to one another inside of a vacuum chamber. If you introduced a laser beam into the system and one way or another fed the light to those parallel mirrors so that the beam simply reflected back and forth going between the surface of the two mirrors, what would happen? Would that beam continue to be reflected back and forth ad infinitum? Could you also build a mechanism that would turn one of the mirrors to "release" the energy by changing the beam's direction and aiming it at a target? (for this discussion, let's assume the mechanism can move the mirror instantaneously)

Since the light would be polarized and only travel between the two mirrors there should not be any observable radiation to anyone looking at the system until the release. This setup would require a vacuum so no foreign particles could diffuse the light and also perfect mirrors so that the reflective surfaces would not scatter the light either. I've googled a bit about how much photonic energy is absorbed by a mirror, and it seems that if the mirror is of substantial mass and has high enough reflectivity then the beam's energy loss would be minimal.

Please excuse my terrible drawings, obviously I didn't take the time to measure the correct angles or anything like that so it's very crude: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6884/lightshow.jpg

Could you also synchronize the laser input so that you can add constructive energy to this system? That is, can you continue to add laser light to the beam already reflecting back and forth in order to increase its power, or would that be nearly impossible and doing so would only add interference? If that is possible, and there was no release mechanism as I described above, would the beam eventually become powerful enough to burn through the mirror itself or would something else break the system before that happened?

I'm thinking about uses for a wide variety of things like power storage, weapons, optical computing, basically anything that would also apply to the research being done on slowing light down to a near standstill (eg- http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gaz...1.24/01-stoplight.html ).

I can also envision something of a light ball of sorts, where a hollow shell is coated with a perfectly reflective surface on the inside with only one small hole where a laser beam is allowed to enter the interior. What kind of forces and energies could be observed inside of the shell? I would imagine that concept to be similar to the way that jewelers use refractive properties to make cuts in gems so that they "hold" the light inside the stone. If this is theoretically possible, could you seal off that shell and then open it back up some time later and release the light that has been trapped inside?

This was just food for thought; I was recently reading about the NIF and it got me curious about how all those hugely complicated laser amplification systems actually work.
 

f95toli

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Google Fabry-Perot interferometer, which is essentially what you are describing.

 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: firewolfsm
The mirror would heat up and energy would be lost over time.

This , no mirror is 100% reflective , there is loss in the beam traveling through the materials that make up the mirror.

Read up on the creation of laser light using mirrors and the amount of energy put in vs the amount of energy released.
 

slugg

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Is it possible to resonate two lasers to create an astronomical magnitude? I'm not a physics guy...
 

SilentSin

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: firewolfsm
The mirror would heat up and energy would be lost over time.

This , no mirror is 100% reflective , there is loss in the beam traveling through the materials that make up the mirror.

Read up on the creation of laser light using mirrors and the amount of energy put in vs the amount of energy released.


Right, but as you approach perfect reflectivity and if the optics are nearly impurity free then the only significant energy transfer happens at the moment the beam actually bounces off the reflective surface, correct?

That incident energy transfer should be miniscule (based on the mass of a photon and its speed if I'm thinking of this correctly, guess it depends on if you view it as a wave or a particle) and would have little effect on the mirror itself as long as it was of significant mass. It would also mean that the temperature increase of the mirror and energy loss of the laser would be equally miniscule, the reflection would continue to go on for quite awhile.

I did find some research that seems to address this exact topic. http://www.physorg.com/news90588542.html To summarize it briefly, it is possible to amplify a laser beam using this method to capture light over time and then release it when it is of higher energy (think of it as a light capacitor). It does appear to have saturation limits though, I guess you can't make the beam infinitely powerful.
 

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seems to me that storage of light would be accomplished by temporarily converting light into some other form. Analogy, linear motion converted into angular motion in a flywheel.

Since we enjoy free liberty in thought experiments like this, I would convert light, which is aware but is not self-aware, into mind.

For re-conversion from mind into light, send it forth out of storage in mind by exerting willful thought.

But, whose?
 
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