Like Flies to Feces

[Perknose]

Trump, the serial bankruptcy pleader and reality TV celebrity turned Presidential aspirant, has been playing with fire by appealing to and even encouraging the worst impulses of certain segments of the dimwitted and disenfranchised.

He's either a shallow dilettante in over his head or a narcissistcally cynical demagogue who just doesn't care.

But watch out, because the chickens are coming home to roost. D:

Donald Trump’s Hells Angels Want to Kick Protester Ass

A band of bikers has pledged to keep protesters from disrupting Donald Trump’s rallies—at all costs.

Donald Trump has a new line of defense in his ongoing war against protesters: hundreds, if not thousands, of pro-Trump bikers ready and willing to provide extra security at his rallies.

[...]

Trump has embraced his biker supporters with gusto.

“My biker friends,” Trump said during a Q&A at a recent Wisconsin rally. His new friends aren’t just fans and are now pledging to provide ad hoc security at for their new hero, using violence if necessary.

Bikers for Trump, a 20,000-strong grassroots collection of motorcycle-riding supporters, has eschewed violence—at least according to its de facto leader.

But it has found that its own supporters are ready to cross that line—if by their own estimation they should deem it required.

“If that means us having to protect ourselves by taking someone else’s life, that’s what we’re going to have to do,” one biker said, in a video shared by Bikers for Trump, on beefing up security.

[..]

“We are not encouraging anyone to go out and cause a disturbance or go about or kick anybody’s ass,” he stressed. “We don’t condone any violence. If we get hit, there’s a good chance we’re gonna hit back. But we’re not the first ones hitting them… It’s not our nature to sit by idly to watch this civil disobedience right under our noses… Donald Trump is our guy. If that means we have to show up in numbers… then we will. We can’t have our candidate’s message diluted and distorted because of these protesters.”

[The formal words are good, but like Altamont, anyone who thinks this will end well isn't paying attention.]

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this story.
Cox defines his organization and this movement by the model biker citizen—law-abiding, politically engaged, family-focused people, not any motorcycle-gang stereotype.

“The bikers these days are nothing like what people have in their minds,” he said. “These guys are professionals, men and women, family-oriented people… And just because bikers want Syrian refugees vetted, and that we want to see a [border] wall built, that doesn’t make us racist.”

[Yes! Family-oriented professionals like this job creator below and the family-oriented establishment he runs.]

Bill Barber, a 61-year-old Biker for Trump (and former hippie and ’60s leftist) who runs the popular Suck Bang Blow biker bar in South Carolina, similarly views Trump as the first true biker candidate of the modern political era.

 

[Greenman]

Trump supporters are stupid people that shouldn't have rights. We can't allow them to gather together or speak to each other, that will spread the thought cancer Trump is spewing across our great nation. They have to be stopped at any cost.

 

[trenchfoot]

And this is another thing that I like about Trump: He seems to bring out in folks some things in them that they normally wouldn't.

In this way we can better understand and deal with them from a more informed point of view, right?

 

[Moonbeam]

Maybe the half of America that doesn't vote is seeking some attention again. Last time the Rolling Stoned voted it was for Mick Jagger.

 

[flexy]

These people are fvcking stupid beyond comprehension.

Notice how the idea of "violent liberals" is nurtured and told now, since the minor protests a couple of weeks ago.

Even more so, this coming from the most primitive racist hicks where altercations etc. are common at almost any Trump rally.

 

[mizzou]

It is, in the end, inevitable for these small groups to conflict with each other. The right to protest must be protected, but we must also see the limits of that protection. We can't let the pendulum swing too far in either direction.

Most of us are stuck in the middle, trying to figure out why we should care or give a damn about the fringe left and right.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Great idea, just ask those folks in Altamont.

 

[Sonikku]

He's done a fine job of exposing this big chunk of the right that you always sorta knew was there, simmering beneath the surface but never quite dragged out in the open, warts and all for all of us to see.

 

[Sinsear]

Troll thread

 

[werepossum]

Trump supporters are stupid people that shouldn't have rights. We can't allow them to gather together or speak to each other, that will spread the thought cancer Trump is spewing across our great nation. They have to be stopped at any cost.

+1

And whatever we have to do is justified by the end.

 

[Zor Prime]

Protesters should now begin demanding hazard pay, might want to unionize.

 

[brianmanahan]

Trump supporters are stupid people that shouldn't have rights.

everyone should have rights, even if they are dumb

 

[Indus]

I wonder how many people will die at the election queue just because Trump's supporters want to suppress the vote.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The right to protect yourself is fundamental. If you don't believe in that, you're worse than Trump.

 

[Sonikku]

everyone should have rights, even if they are dumb

:thumbsup:

 

[cubby1223]

Trump supporters are stupid people that shouldn't have rights.

If we excluded stupid people from having rights, this P&N forum would be vacant

 

[Perknose]

The right to protect yourself is fundamental. If you don't believe in that, you're worse than Trump.

That's not the point. It's not the point at all. Trump has the SS and the local police to protect the hell out of him. His going the Rolling Stones at Altamount route is bound to end in violence:

“If that means us having to protect ourselves by taking someone else’s life, that’s what we’re going to have to do,” one biker said, in a video shared by Bikers for Trump, on beefing up security."

That's not protection. The SS and the police are already providing that. What he's doing is encouraging angry assholes itching for violent, even murderous confrontation, to be his own private brown shirts . . . his Sturmabteilung.

Am I saying Trump is Hitler? Fuck no. He's way too much of an amateur. I am saying he exactly what I said in my OP, that, "He's either a shallow dilettante in over his head or a narcissistcally cynical demagogue who just doesn't care."

Let me clarify the above; I believe he's a combo of both -- a narcissistic shallow political dilettante in his over his head, playing at demagogue and playing with fire.

And, from offering to pay the court costs of that dimwit who cold cocked a guy being led out to refusing to acknowledge his campaign manager crossed the line to this:

“My biker friends,” Trump said during a Q&A at a recent Wisconsin rally. His new friends aren’t just fans and are now pledging to provide ad hoc security at for their new hero, using violence if necessary.

He's fanning the flames of something, just like the Stones, he thinks is "cool" but won't be able to control, and for which, after the fact, as he has shown time and time again, he won't take responsibility.

 

[MongGrel]

That's not the point. It's not the point at all. Trump has the SS and the local police to protect the hell out of him. His going the Rolling Stones at Altamount route is bound to end in violence:



That's not protection. The SS and the police are already providing that. What he's doing is encouraging angry assholes itching for violent, even murderous confrontation, to be his own private brown shirts . . . his Sturmabteilung.

Am I saying Trump is Hitler? Fuck no. He's way too much of an amateur. I am saying he exactly what I said in my OP, that, "He's either a shallow dilettante in over his head or a narcissistcally cynical demagogue who just doesn't care."

Let me clarify the above; I believe he's a combo of both -- a narcissistic shallow political dilettante in his over his head, playing at demagogue and playing with fire.

And, from offering to pay the court costs of that dimwit who cold cocked a guy being led out to refusing to acknowledge his campaign manager crossed the line to this:



He's fanning the flames of something, just like the Stones, he thinks is "cool" but won't be able to control, and for which, after the fact, as he has shown time and time again, he won't take responsibility.

+1

And in defense of Mick and the boys a little bit, I think the Stones even shut the concert down at Altamount once they realized how stupid and out of control it had become.

 

[woolfe9998]

+1

And whatever we have to do is justified by the end.

Yeah, like encouraging a large group of thugs to come to your rallies in order to "protect your rights." The end justifies the means...

Trump has the police for protection. He doesn't need his own private army. Or does he?

 

[woolfe9998]

This is beyond hilarious:

“The bikers these days are nothing like what people have in their minds,” he said. “These guys are professionals, men and women, family-oriented people… And just because bikers want Syrian refugees vetted, and that we want to see a [border] wall built, that doesn’t make us racist.”

Amazing how much progress American biker gangs have made in becoming law abiding citizens in a single year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Waco_shootout
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/biker-gang-history-of-violence/

 

[brycejones]

If we excluded stupid people from having rights, this P&N forum wouldn't have Trump or Cruz supporters.

ftfy

 

[Greenman]

That's not the point. It's not the point at all. Trump has the SS and the local police to protect the hell out of him. His going the Rolling Stones at Altamount route is bound to end in violence:



That's not protection. The SS and the police are already providing that. What he's doing is encouraging angry assholes itching for violent, even murderous confrontation, to be his own private brown shirts . . . his Sturmabteilung.

Am I saying Trump is Hitler? Fuck no. He's way too much of an amateur. I am saying he exactly what I said in my OP, that, "He's either a shallow dilettante in over his head or a narcissistcally cynical demagogue who just doesn't care."

Let me clarify the above; I believe he's a combo of both -- a narcissistic shallow political dilettante in his over his head, playing at demagogue and playing with fire.

And, from offering to pay the court costs of that dimwit who cold cocked a guy being led out to refusing to acknowledge his campaign manager crossed the line to this:



He's fanning the flames of something, just like the Stones, he thinks is "cool" but won't be able to control, and for which, after the fact, as he has shown time and time again, he won't take responsibility.

Or he could simply not want a bunch of self riotous loud mouths raining on his parade.
This is the problem with much of the left, they believe they have the right to disrupt Trump, they believe they have the right to silence those they disagree with. They behave like spoiled children and have a tantrum when they don't get their way. Now those same children are going to demand that the police protect them while they deny others the right to have their say. This is folly, it's base ignorance, it's narcissism, and at the end of the day, it doesn't work.

 

[Paratus]

Or he could simply not want a bunch of self riotous loud mouths raining on his parade.
This is the problem with much of the left, they believe they have the right to disrupt Trump, they believe they have the right to silence those they disagree with. They behave like spoiled children and have a tantrum when they don't get their way. Now those same children are going to demand that the police protect them while they deny others the right to have their say. This is folly, it's base ignorance, it's narcissism, and at the end of the day, it doesn't work.

Here that guys. Trump has every right to freedom of speech so you whiny liberals better shut the F up or his biker friends will end you.

Cause .,,,

Shit couldn't keep a straight face.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump supporters are stupid people that shouldn't have rights. We can't allow them to gather together or speak to each other, that will spread the thought cancer Trump is spewing across our great nation. They have to be stopped at any cost.

Or he could simply not want a bunch of self riotous loud mouths raining on his parade.
This is the problem with much of the left, they believe they have the right to disrupt Trump, they believe they have the right to silence those they disagree with. They behave like spoiled children and have a tantrum when they don't get their way. Now those same children are going to demand that the police protect them while they deny others the right to have their say. This is folly, it's base ignorance, it's narcissism, and at the end of the day, it doesn't work.

Please. Those characterizations are scurrilous.

Trump can't possibly be silenced given his command of the sensationalist media. Everywhere you look he's in your face, talking hateful & divisive shit, bigger than life. It's not like people who want to get right back in his face can do it any way other than protest. They won't get air time any other way. It's the only thing granting them the power to be heard. Otherwise, it's Donald, Donald & Donald all the time.

If Trump protesters really wanted violence we'd have already seen a lot more of it. The introduction of biker boneheads on Trump's side indicates that he welcomes it, plain & simple.

So, go ahead, see if you can derp your way around that.

 

[brycejones]

Or he could simply not want a bunch of self riotous loud mouths raining on his parade.
This is the problem with much of the left, they believe they have the right to disrupt Trump, they believe they have the right to silence those they disagree with. They behave like spoiled children and have a tantrum when they don't get their way.

I'm sure you said the same thing during the summer of outrage over the ACA. Your lack of self awareness and support of the first amendment is mind boggling.