Linkin Park - Minutes To Midnight

[Injury]

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury Like he does in each and every thread related to music... or even in threads not related to music. Because of course, if he doesn't like them, they are obviously not worth of putting CDs on shelves .

Obviously after releasing multiple albums and having a fan following they aren't doing anything right.

Britney Spears had a big fan following back in the day too; I don't see her on anyone's top "great music" list. Don't judge the quality of music or a band based on a large following, people are generally idiots.

You're pretty much the idiot here. If people are buying the album because they like the single, you're doing something right. If someone isn't going to buy the album, why should they, or anyone else, give a crap about the opinion of someone who obviously has some sort of illogical elitest complex. eits has yet to provide any solid reason why LP is horrible other than his on bantering and overly-biased opinion which just helps us show that music is subjective. Once he gets over himself and realizes this, maybe he'll stop being so pissed off all the time and actually be able to present an opinion that I might give a crap about.

Unfortunately, the troll has been fed a steady supply of food this whole thread.

Judging from the two albums they released. There was little to no innovation. They just followed the same formula from song to song. The JayZ album, although kind of cool, was just their songs mixed in with his :roll:. I used to listen to them extensively back in the day (hs). But I can't really stand listening to them anymore.

I've noticed multiple differences. Either way I like both albums. The Jay Z thing was pretty cool because it was different. A lot of the songs on Meteora sound similar to In the End... because that's easily the best song on Hybrid Theory and they knew their fans liked that style. Reanimation is fun to listen to because the original was sort of 80% rock, 20% rap-ish... and that flipped it around. If you've ever heard the Hybrid Theory EP (From when they were called Hybrid Theory) Then you'd notice major changes from then to Meteora.

I can agree that Hybrid Theory sounds a bit immature and angsty for some people's tastes, but it sounded good. You gotta realize that came out about 7 years ago. They've definately grown and changed as a band since then.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury Like he does in each and every thread related to music... or even in threads not related to music. Because of course, if he doesn't like them, they are obviously not worth of putting CDs on shelves .

Obviously after releasing multiple albums and having a fan following they aren't doing anything right.

Britney Spears had a big fan following back in the day too; I don't see her on anyone's top "great music" list. Don't judge the quality of music or a band based on a large following, people are generally idiots.

You're pretty much the idiot here. If people are buying the album because they like the single, you're doing something right. If someone isn't going to buy the album, why should they, or anyone else, give a crap about the opinion of someone who obviously has some sort of illogical elitest complex. eits has yet to provide any solid reason why LP is horrible other than his on bantering and overly-biased opinion which just helps us show that music is subjective. Once he gets over himself and realizes this, maybe he'll stop being so pissed off all the time and actually be able to present an opinion that I might give a crap about.

Unfortunately, the troll has been fed a steady supply of food this whole thread.

Judging from the two albums they released. There was little to no innovation. They just followed the same formula from song to song. The JayZ album, although kind of cool, was just their songs mixed in with his :roll:. I used to listen to them extensively back in the day (hs). But I can't really stand listening to them anymore.

What formula?

As far as the Jay Z thing.. yeah, some songs were literally the exact same music with the other artist's lyrics. Some songs required complete restructuring to pull off. That's why it's called a mash-up, not a remix. They did have to work on adjusting speeds an, tempos and pitches quite a bit to make it sound just right. Again, people liked it, so obviously they did something right.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: ElFenix
of all the live shows i've ever seen, linkin park was the worst. they might as well have just put their CD in the player and walked off stage. no energy, no emotion, no playing to the crowd, nothing. no stage presence what so ever.

don't forget the tonedeaf singer and how they can't keep a beat...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttjjFt6N4zw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Cr4L6bb40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MTlm_OeA8

yeah... they sound just like tool... :roll: haha

Wow that is pathetic... I like Lincoln Park but those live "performances" suck a$$...
I've seen high school bands with more energy that sound better.

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Sweet, been waiting for this.

 

[clamum]

I'm not a huge fan of LP but I think the performances below are pretty good. Those other ones that were posted were way back in 2001 when they were still pretty young.

1
2

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Vidda
I remember before my pre-enlightened days I listened to these guys. Don't regret my decision.

You mean in your days where you actually formed an opinion based on your own thoughts and likes and dislikes instead of worrying that your friends will call you a i love you becaue you like something that they all jumped on the band wagon to hate on because it was the "cool" thing to do?

Part of the hate i feel comes from jealousy more than thinking they suck. I bet some of you that hate them are garage musicians or pick at a guitar and think you should be the next big thing but you just can't seem to get a break. Saying someone sucks at something is all subjective. Apparently they don't suck because they are making more money than 99.9% of the people on this board, and they have more pvssy than they have time.

Now if it was K-fed i would have to agree that he sucks.

 

[MrK6]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury Like he does in each and every thread related to music... or even in threads not related to music. Because of course, if he doesn't like them, they are obviously not worth of putting CDs on shelves .

Obviously after releasing multiple albums and having a fan following they aren't doing anything right.

Britney Spears had a big fan following back in the day too; I don't see her on anyone's top "great music" list. Don't judge the quality of music or a band based on a large following, people are generally idiots.

You're pretty much the idiot here. If people are buying the album because they like the single, you're doing something right. If someone isn't going to buy the album, why should they, or anyone else, give a crap about the opinion of someone who obviously has some sort of illogical elitest complex. eits has yet to provide any solid reason why LP is horrible other than his on bantering and overly-biased opinion which just helps us show that music is subjective. Once he gets over himself and realizes this, maybe he'll stop being so pissed off all the time and actually be able to present an opinion that I might give a crap about.

Unfortunately, the troll has been fed a steady supply of food this whole thread.

Wow, here I go and try to make a valid point and an idiot fanboi (yes, of music) gets all defensive. eits is right, Linkin' Park or however the hell you spell it, is a prime example of ****** new music. Plain and simple, they suck. Little to no talent, same friggen sound every song, and the emo sound (yes emo, suck it up that you listen to emo) they produce is of no musical worth. People whining and crying into a mic is just pathetic, just like all the whining and crying about people not liking their band; what a coincidental pattern.

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury Like he does in each and every thread related to music... or even in threads not related to music. Because of course, if he doesn't like them, they are obviously not worth of putting CDs on shelves .

Obviously after releasing multiple albums and having a fan following they aren't doing anything right.

Britney Spears had a big fan following back in the day too; I don't see her on anyone's top "great music" list. Don't judge the quality of music or a band based on a large following, people are generally idiots.

You're pretty much the idiot here. If people are buying the album because they like the single, you're doing something right. If someone isn't going to buy the album, why should they, or anyone else, give a crap about the opinion of someone who obviously has some sort of illogical elitest complex. eits has yet to provide any solid reason why LP is horrible other than his on bantering and overly-biased opinion which just helps us show that music is subjective. Once he gets over himself and realizes this, maybe he'll stop being so pissed off all the time and actually be able to present an opinion that I might give a crap about.

Unfortunately, the troll has been fed a steady supply of food this whole thread.

Wow, here I go and try to make a valid point and an idiot fanboi (yes, of music) gets all defensive. eits is right, Linkin' Park or however the hell you spell it, is a prime example of ****** new music. Plain and simple, they suck. Little to no talent, same friggen sound every song, and the emo sound (yes emo, suck it up that you listen to emo) they produce is of no musical worth. People whining and crying into a mic is just pathetic, just like all the whining and crying about people not liking their band; what a coincidental pattern.

A) They are not emo
B) they are not new
C) I'm sorry your a$$hole is so tight you think it should be punishable by death for someone to like something you don't.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Some people need to figure out what emo means. Linkin Park is not emo. If you think it is 'emo' to sing about heartbreak and ex-girlfriends, well here's a newsflash: the overwhelming majority of all music 'is' about love (usually lost).

They are an alternative-metal/rap-metal outfit and one of the better ones. Pretty much all music in that genre sounds the same. Kinda like how all death-metal sounds the same. Or rap. Or teen-pop. Or trance. To someone with an untrained ear, all classical music sounds the same.

If you hate it, get over it.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MrK6

Originally posted by: Injury Like he does in each and every thread related to music... or even in threads not related to music. Because of course, if he doesn't like them, they are obviously not worth of putting CDs on shelves .

Obviously after releasing multiple albums and having a fan following they aren't doing anything right.

Britney Spears had a big fan following back in the day too; I don't see her on anyone's top "great music" list. Don't judge the quality of music or a band based on a large following, people are generally idiots.

You're pretty much the idiot here. If people are buying the album because they like the single, you're doing something right. If someone isn't going to buy the album, why should they, or anyone else, give a crap about the opinion of someone who obviously has some sort of illogical elitest complex. eits has yet to provide any solid reason why LP is horrible other than his on bantering and overly-biased opinion which just helps us show that music is subjective. Once he gets over himself and realizes this, maybe he'll stop being so pissed off all the time and actually be able to present an opinion that I might give a crap about.

Unfortunately, the troll has been fed a steady supply of food this whole thread.

Wow, here I go and try to make a valid point and an idiot fanboi (yes, of music) gets all defensive. eits is right, Linkin' Park or however the hell you spell it, is a prime example of ****** new music. Plain and simple, they suck. Little to no talent, same friggen sound every song, and the emo sound (yes emo, suck it up that you listen to emo) they produce is of no musical worth. People whining and crying into a mic is just pathetic, just like all the whining and crying about people not liking their band; what a coincidental pattern.

Do yourself a favor. Re-read both of our posts and ask yourself who is crying. Then go ahead and read my post another time and consider it to be my response here because you're just doing me the favor of fitting the exact type of person I was talking about.

I don't care who the band is, I will defend their talents or provide a reason reason why I don't like them and leave it at that. They don't suck because I don't like them. You'll grow up someday and realize that your opinion is not enough of a basis to claim something to be true, though.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Some people need to figure out what emo means. Linkin Park is not emo. If you think it is 'emo' to sing about heartbreak and ex-girlfriends, well here's a newsflash: the overwhelming majority of all music 'is' about love (usually lost).

They are an alternative-metal/rap-metal outfit and one of the better ones. Pretty much all music in that genre sounds the same. Kinda like how all death-metal sounds the same. Or rap. Or teen-pop. Or trance. To someone with an untrained ear, all classical music sounds the same.

If you hate it, get over it.

Craaaaawwwwwwwwlllllllinnngggg iiiinnn mmmyyyyyyy skiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn

 

[jpeyton]

CRAAAAAAWWLING EEEEEEEEEENNNN MY SKEEEEEEEEEEN!

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Some people need to figure out what emo means. Linkin Park is not emo. If you think it is 'emo' to sing about heartbreak and ex-girlfriends, well here's a newsflash: the overwhelming majority of all music 'is' about love (usually lost).

They are an alternative-metal/rap-metal outfit and one of the better ones. Pretty much all music in that genre sounds the same. Kinda like how all death-metal sounds the same. Or rap. Or teen-pop. Or trance. To someone with an untrained ear, all classical music sounds the same.

If you hate it, get over it.

Craaaaawwwwwwwwlllllllinnngggg iiiinnn mmmyyyyyyy skiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn

For what it's worth, My Last.fm

Linkin Park is hardly my favorite band - I haven't played Hybrid Theory/Meteora in ages because...it got boring after a while. But Collision Course was a good record...and I don't think liking Linkin Park is any sign of 'poor taste'.

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

They are an alternative-metal/rap-metal outfit and one of the better ones. Pretty much all music in that genre sounds the same. Kinda like how all death-metal sounds the same.

ummm, all death metal does not sound the same.

all rap does not sound the same.

listen to them :thumbsup:

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: ElFenix
of all the live shows i've ever seen, linkin park was the worst. they might as well have just put their CD in the player and walked off stage. no energy, no emotion, no playing to the crowd, nothing. no stage presence what so ever.

don't forget the tonedeaf singer and how they can't keep a beat...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttjjFt6N4zw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Cr4L6bb40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MTlm_OeA8

yeah... they sound just like tool... :roll: haha

Wow that is pathetic... I like Lincoln Park but those live "performances" suck a$$...
I've seen high school bands with more energy that sound better.

for what its worth, Chester's vocals have improved, as evidenced in the Meteora album. I think he has probably been coached and done a lot of work on his own to improve his sound. I've never been to a show but have seen recordings of more recent shows and his sound has improved.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

They are an alternative-metal/rap-metal outfit and one of the better ones. Pretty much all music in that genre sounds the same. Kinda like how all death-metal sounds the same.

ummm, all death metal does not sound the same.

all rap does not sound the same.

listen to them :thumbsup:

That's the thing - I just don't have an ear/taste for those particular genres. So naturally, I piss off death-metal fans when I tell them, "Bah, it all sounds the same!" So I admit my opinion in those matters is uneducated...which is why I normally avoid commenting on genres I don't like or listen to. Live and let live. :thumbsup:

BTW, what would you recommend to a guy who's only familiar with Run DMC, Eminem and Jay-Z in the rap/hip hop genre?

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

BTW, what would you recommend to a guy who's only familiar with Run DMC, Eminem and Jay-Z in the rap/hip hop genre?

jurassic 5, fort minor, styles of beyond, and nas are all pretty good IMO

obie trice isnt bad either... and he does some songs with eminem :thumbsup:

 

[MrK6]

Originally posted by: HyperliteA) They are not emo
B) they are not new
C) I'm sorry your a$$hole is so tight you think it should be punishable by death for someone to like something you don't.

Because that's even close to what I said. Lighten up and take some criticism about something you like; work on your own anal-retentiveness.

And creating 53-billion subtypes of music to classify every type of band so they fit a description you like is idiotic. I describe them as "emo" because that's where their popularity is based: venting teenagers whose parents are trying to make adults out of them.

Originally posted by: InjuryDo yourself a favor. Re-read both of our posts and ask yourself who is crying. Then go ahead and read my post another time and consider it to be my response here because you're just doing me the favor of fitting the exact type of person I was talking about.

I don't care who the band is, I will defend their talents or provide a reason reason why I don't like them and leave it at that. They don't suck because I don't like them. You'll grow up someday and realize that your opinion is not enough of a basis to claim something to be true, though.

What's this person you're talking about? Someone who gets immediately defensive and insulting over this crap when I make an observation based on a pop singer? Great job idiot, you just owned yourself. Learn some English and read your OWN post before you tell someone to reread it. I personally love how you say "grow up" when you're the obnoxious fool who started bitching; watch your mouth next time and it'll be harder for your idiocy to show through.

I understand why people just keep replying "CRAWLING IN MY SKIN," it's about the only thing that sinks in some of the thick skulls in here. Whatever, there's no point in arguing it further. If your musical tastes ever mature, there's much better listening to be done.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: pontifex
i don't get how this forum has a hard on for Tool but hates Linkin Park. its pretty much the same thing.

... are you fvcking joking?

Tool sucks ass...
always been a halfass band..

and LP is good music.. but then again I'm not a "cool" kiddie anymore I'm just a middle aged old rocker.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: pontifex
i don't get how this forum has a hard on for Tool but hates Linkin Park. its pretty much the same thing.

... are you fvcking joking?

Tool sucks ass...
always been a halfass band..

and LP is good music.. but then again I'm not a "cool" kiddie anymore I'm just a middle aged old rocker.

uhhhhh................... you're an idiot.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
The LP CD is "out in the wild" if anyone doesnt want to get burned again before hearing it. (I say this because of the last 2 awful albums)

Dont PM me on where to find it.

Awful?
meteora was hit after hit.. the whole album was good..

man some people here have horrible taste in music..

go back to listening to your bluegrass or whatever crap you guys are into..

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Acanthus
The LP CD is "out in the wild" if anyone doesnt want to get burned again before hearing it. (I say this because of the last 2 awful albums)

Dont PM me on where to find it.

Awful?
meteora was hit after hit.. the whole album was good..

man some people here have horrible taste in music..

go back to listening to your bluegrass or whatever crap you guys are into..

haha omg it's like listening to a the dumbmeter is tapped out on this guy

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy
BTW, what would you recommend to a guy who's only familiar with Run DMC, Eminem and Jay-Z in the rap/hip hop genre?

Deltron 3030

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Acanthus
The LP CD is "out in the wild" if anyone doesnt want to get burned again before hearing it. (I say this because of the last 2 awful albums)

Dont PM me on where to find it.

Awful?
meteora was hit after hit.. the whole album was good..

man some people here have horrible taste in music..

go back to listening to your bluegrass or whatever crap you guys are into..

Celtic Bluegrass > Linkin Park

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: schneiderguy
BTW, what would you recommend to a guy who's only familiar with Run DMC, Eminem and Jay-Z in the rap/hip hop genre?

Deltron 3030

That is a sick album but quite different from those artists (IMO). Definitely check it out though. Some other good rap/hip-hop:

Jurassic 5
Blackalicious
Binary Star
Busta Rhymes
Tech N9ne