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KF

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Originally posted by: Zepper
Yup, back when I was still on dial-up (less than a month ago), I ordered my linux burned to disks from http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com . He's in France so shipping will take a bit longer. He'll also make custom DVDs with whatever number of ISOs will fit. Mark has just about every distro there is and will get any he doesn't have. With his specials and volume deals, you can come out well.

.bh.

Thanks for the link. It looks like a very nice site. Cheaper than most, counting shipping, and he has an extensive selection, in case you may not find what you want at FrozenTech. Incredible that he can ship from France cheaper than a lot of sites ship from within the US.

I came across more sites than I put in my list, but excluded for one reason or another. (1) because they seemed unreliable or quirky: like they might list old distro versions or link to non-existent things at their own site; or the price was far out of line. (2) because of being in other countries. It is hard to believe you can order across international boundaries and still get a good, safe deal and quick service. But I guess you can.
 

KF

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Time to get Fedora Core 5. And Gentoo 2006.0 LiveCD apparently has an installer (?), rather than having to read from a separate guide book what to type in at a command prompt.
 

RossMAN

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I want to download Ubuntu but need to burn an ISO image.

I DO NOT HAVE NERO!!!! Are there any free easy applications which can do this?
 

YoYoBabyYo

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
I want to download Ubuntu but need to burn an ISO image.

I DO NOT HAVE NERO!!!! Are there any free easy applications which can do this?

The Roxio software that came with your Dell could not burn ISO images (not sure since I never used it). I am not sure about any free applications, but you could always download a free trial of Nero or NTI CD & DVD-Maker to burn the ISO image.
 

YoYoBabyYo

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I want to learn how to use Linux, and does anybody have any recommendations on which distro to start with?
I heard that Mandrake was easy, but I kept getting a kernel panic whenever it booted, so I gave up on that.
I tried SuSE 9.3, but I still do not know how to use any basic Unix commands to get around.
I heard nice things about Fedora Core and Ubuntu, and probably will try those.
Is there anything similar to Mac OSX?
Are there any benefits over one another between Gnome and KDE?

Thanks!
 

lordbob99

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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: RossMAN
I want to download Ubuntu but need to burn an ISO image.

https://shipit.ubuntu.com/">Ubuntu - FREE CDs with FREE shipping</a>

YoYoBabyYo, you can try out Ubuntu also because it supposedly is pretty friendly to use.

I second Ubuntu. Its hardware detection has been nothing short of amazing on all the machines I've tested it on so far. I haven't had a chance to try out Fedora Core 5 yet, but I'm pretty sure I'll still be an Ubuntu fan afterwards.
 

KF

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Hi YoYoBabyYo,
You need to realize that asking the things you did is like asking someone about religion. Really. Few who have had a go-round in a thread want to repeat the experience. Don't try this in the Anandtech OS forum!

I am not a linux guru, and I don't ever plan to be. If I were to attempt it, I doubt if I had the talents required. Which are: an encyclopedic and infallible memory. However I have the advantage that when I started with computers, all there was was a command line, DOS that is, which was a tremendously stripped down unix parallel, missing a lot. (basic was the parallel to c, if you are wondering.)

>I want to learn how to use Linux, and does anybody have any recommendations on which distro to start with?
Fedora Core, now at 5. Why? It is probably the best organized, while being 100% open, yet popular. Being "open" is your protection against being coralled or trapped into what a company (such as MS or Red Hat or Novell or Apple) wants to allow you. "Open" does not mean 100% cost free, but it does mean the price is not driven up by government enforced monopolies, which is what copyright and patent are. Intellectual property is not real property, it is a legal construct invented by lawyers to bamboozle the public and rake in larger quantities of cash for their clients.

>I heard that Mandrake was easy, but I kept getting a kernel panic whenever it booted, so I gave up on that.
I believe the most common cause is resolved by turning ACPI OFF on the command line when you boot the install CD. You have to take it from there. I don't remember the exact words. It succeeded on one computer. All others did not need it. ACPI is buggy in some BIOSes because Windows does not use a lot of it, and linux may use something Windows doesn't. You can also turn off ACPI when you install XP if you need to.

>I tried SuSE 9.3, but I still do not know how to use any basic Unix commands to get around.
But when people say they want to learn linux, this seems to be what they mean: Memorize a *bleep*load of commands with "switches," and the multifarious locations and arcane names of configuration files. A nicely designed GUI should make almost all that superfluous, while still accessible. But linux desktops are nowhere close as yet. The reason is that linux/unix is designed by programmers, for programmers, so that they can program. They turn every "interface" into some kind of programming, be it the command line or the GUI.

>I heard nice things about Fedora Core and Ubuntu, and probably will try those.
Sure.
>Is there anything similar to Mac OSX?
I think there must be something out there that has the general look. But Mac OS X is a customized unix with a diverged code lineage before linux. It is up to Apple to decide what of their additions and revisons they will allow to be used freely. Recall that Apple pursued a lawsuit against MS Windows for years and years, and only settled when Apple was on the ropes and could not afford the expense, and in fact got bailed-out by MS. Apple normally crushes small competitors with legal machinery that small outfits can't afford to defend against. It is typical for Apple, and less for MS, to take the essence of something good from someone else, proprietarize it, and assert total legal right of ownership.

>Are there any benefits over one another between Gnome and KDE?
KDE desktops I have used seem to have more extensive and capable choices on the menus. Since this is what I would rather use the GUI for, rather than a command line, I like that. OTOH Red Hat seems to believe Gnome, though plain, is more stable, less buggy.

In general, you should differentiate between linux/unix and the user interface/programs. The interesting concept of unix was to write everytiing basic, including the OS kernal, in a "system programming language" which is "c" for unix. ("c" is in fact written in itself. lol.) Then, after you get a c compiler running for a particular CPU, you can compile all programs to run on the CPU. OSes suffiently conformant to this are considerd unixes (POSIX). The source code for "open" programs written for unix therefore can be made to run on any CPU for which a unix exists. You just get the "open" source code and compile it. GUIs, like the desktops KDE and Gnome, or command line shells like sh, are just programs that run on unix. GUI's of course require specialized graphic hardware beyond what a command line does. PCs just provide a conviently specific hardware to make use of, as does a Mac. But it is not necessarily true that hardware that has a non-open driver, such as an XP driver, will run from unix, unless and until a unix program (driver) is written for it. A lot of hardware has linux drivers, a lot does not.



 

KF

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Hey linux fans! Frozentech has this new thing : a distro subscription(?) for $8.95.

????

"FrozenTech's Linux 6+2 Subscription
Receive the latest Linux CDs and DVDs every month! With the 6+2 subscription, you get 6 CDs and 2 DVDs of the latest i386 Linux Live and install releases."

"April 2006
This issue will be shipped within two business days of subscribing during the month of April.

* Fedora Core 5 DVD
* Knoppix 5.0 CeBIT Edition LiveDVD

* Kororaa XGL LiveCD 0.1
* SLAX 5.1.0 LiveCD
* BackTrack User Edition - Beta 05022006
* Damn Small Linux 2.3 LiveCD
* Gentoo 2006.0 LiveCD
* Kanotix 2005-04 LiveCD
"

"Note: Your subscription will automatically renew at the rates stated above unless you cancel prior to the end of the billing period."

So I guess you can cancel any time.

That'll keep you busy, peeps. Forget about modding your case. Mod your OS
 

KF

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Frozentech added OpenSUSE 10.0 on 5 CDs for $4.95 +$0.49.

Time for a bump.
 

KF

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It has been a while.

FrozenTech has several items geared to low-performance/low-memory computers:

There is Xubuntu, which subsititutes the low impact desktop Xfce for the more usual hogs GNOME or KDE. $0.99
There is Damn Small Linux which uses the even more minimal (I think) Fluxbox desktop. $0.99
There is Puppy Linux which is said to be OK on 64MB machines, and runs in memory, making it super-fast, not using the HD much ("The live-CD is about 50-70M"), or a USB flash drive is supposed to be fine. $0.99

Check out his links for more info about these.

Bump.
 

KF

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Been a while since I bumped this.

Now that MS is letting you buy a time-bombed (at June 07) trial of a clunky, user-hostile, pre-version of the next Windows on DVD for $3+$2 shipping, you might consider trying out a DVD linux distro side by side for $1.99 +$0.48 shipping. I guess it is the well known "economies of scale" that allows MS to price "Vista, the Abortion" at as little as $5, unsupported, mangled, and pathetic, while little Mr. FrozenTech has to charge OVER $2.47 to stay in the black, for an actual and functional OS that will still work in June 2017. It is one of those sad ironies the little guy has to accept when he tries to compete with the big guys

It is not unlikely you would be enjoyably surprised by the comparison to whatever MS has been working on for possibly 10 years, at a research cost of, I suppose, billions and billions; for which XP users have already paid in full in the price of XP, because, as constantly observed on the news, MS has been piling money upon oodles more money the entire time they have been working on Longhorn/Vista. Alternatively, MS could have put a fraction of that time and effort into elaborating linux into an exactly interchangable technology, but that unfortunately would NOT LOCK you into paying unto infinity into MS's engorged bank accounts.

If you want to get into 64 bit linux, the most convenient of the distros I have tried is Ubuntu. They have inventively smoothed the puzzling and inconvenient parts of linux to an extent no one else has, while in the midst of a plan to take it further.

If you are sticking with the tried and true 32 bit linux, I tried out PClinuxOS ($0.99) only because its users seemed to think it was so wonderfully convenient, and in spite of it not having the recognition that Ubuntu has, its convenience, smoothness and completeness rival Ubuntu. I was so surprised and pleased with it that I plan to try out Freespire, which has a similar end-user, non-programmer orientation. The mastermind of that operation (Linspire/Freespire) has a very practical, commercial strategy. Still keeping to that idea, he recently converted his very low cost software repository and custom upgrading software combo into a 100% free version. The premium plan is still pay-for.

 

KF

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Bump for Fedora Core 6 out today, and Frozentech has it.

DVD $2.48 shipped.
on 6 CDs $6.43 shipped.

If I were to start downloading the 6 CDs today (which is 6 x 700 meg = 4200 meg) it would take 420 hours of download time. At 10 hour per day, loading over night, that would be 42 days. So I can get it faster (and easier) by ordering the DVD

If you want to wait 2 days, the next spruced up Ubuntu (6.10 or Edgy Eft) is due Oct. 26, and you can get that at the same time.
 

KF

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Bump for the new Ubuntu, Edgy Eft, now available at Frozentech.

I was not that thrilled with Ubuntu in the early version I tried before, but I'm becoming a convert I think.

Although the version number (6.10) may not seem to be much different (6.10 versus 6.01), that's because the versioning is not by normal programming practice. The 6 is for the year 2006. The 10 is for the 10th month. What the Ubuntu group is doing is reworking and cleaning up linux to suit a more casual computer user than has been attracted to linux previously, and doing a dang nice job of it IMO. But do NOT expect that maintaining your OS yourself will be as convenient as Windows.
 
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