Linux SUCKS and should never be used by human beings.

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Tauren
I use Debian on 3 computers at my house. I don't care for it, but try Ubuntu it's made so easy monkey's can use it.

I'm using ubuntu. I am apparently not smart enough to use it. This despite the fact that I can get an A in Calc 3.

try using fedora core 6. It based off red hat

Is it easy? As in, windows or OSX easy?

I found it easy.

it takes some learning though.

That's the problem. I have no desire to learn an OS. I never had to learn windows.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: Robor
1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. Wrong

That's about all the response this thread deserves.

Good for you.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Tauren
I use Debian on 3 computers at my house. I don't care for it, but try Ubuntu it's made so easy monkey's can use it.

I'm using ubuntu. I am apparently not smart enough to use it. This despite the fact that I can get an A in Calc 3.

my brother in law also has book sense

and no common sense.

i saw him spend 4 hours putting together a grill once, poor guy, and this was after a tour in afghanistan as an apache mechanic (hes now in training as a *pilot* for the damn things)

as for me, id fail calc all of my life

but linux really isnt *that* hard for general use (some hardware support can be a tad spotty, otherwise going through some FAQs and a guide specific to your distro can pretty well get you prepared)

i had some of the same opinions you did on command lines and root access.

until i started doing work with pcs regularly

and ran into users like you.

apt-get makes getting software trivial, especially when you use a front-end like synaptic that makes it mind-numbingly easy to search for software to do what you want, and install it.

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: magomago
I don't think he knows much

http://www.ubuntuguide.org

I'm sure you can cut and paste, Cacl3 taught you CNTL+C and CNTL+V, right? I don't want to scare you with TOO much information...

Go there, get extra repositories installed, get any extra programs you need, download the gstream codec packs, learn to use synaptic, etc. etc.

If you have questions go to http://www.ubuntuforums.org and go to the newbie areas. Read a little bit about linux FIRST because you can't apply Windows straight onto Linux. Learn the simple basics (And yes, these are basics) of what repositories are, what dependencies are, Why "X" isn't the operating system, how some things are layered. A lot of this is reallly general basic info that goes VERY far is teaching you a lot of important things. Hell, I understand it generally and unless I can't program worth crap


I'm actually amazed you can't use Ubuntu....



Here is one thing you should learn:

Linux is not harder than windows, it is just DIFFERENT. So don't treat Linux as if it is exactly Windows

Well aparently I'm stupid. *snip*

QFT

 

[Markbnj]

A) this thread is a troll

B) Linux will never be a mainstream consumer o/s

C) which is ok because mainstream consumer adoption would horrify Linux types

D) who would immediately leave for something that was still cryptic

 

[sonoma1993]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Tauren
I use Debian on 3 computers at my house. I don't care for it, but try Ubuntu it's made so easy monkey's can use it.

I'm using ubuntu. I am apparently not smart enough to use it. This despite the fact that I can get an A in Calc 3.

try using fedora core 6. It based off red hat

Is it easy? As in, windows or OSX easy?

I found it easy.

it takes some learning though.

That's the problem. I have no desire to learn an OS. I never had to learn windows.

well if you want to use linux, your going have to take some time to learn it. simple as that.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Tauren
I use Debian on 3 computers at my house. I don't care for it, but try Ubuntu it's made so easy monkey's can use it.

I'm using ubuntu. I am apparently not smart enough to use it. This despite the fact that I can get an A in Calc 3.

my brother in law also has book sense

and no common sense.

i saw him spend 4 hours putting together a grill once, poor guy, and this was after a tour in afghanistan as an apache mechanic (hes now in training as a *pilot* for the damn things)

as for me, id fail calc all of my life

but linux really isnt *that* hard for general use (some hardware support can be a tad spotty, otherwise going through some FAQs and a guide specific to your distro can pretty well get you prepared)

i had some of the same opinions you did on command lines and root access.

until i started doing work with pcs regularly

and ran into users like you.

apt-get makes getting software trivial, especially when you use a front-end like synaptic that makes it mind-numbingly easy to search for software to do what you want, and install it.

It's not a lack of common sense. I can cook, build anything, I learn almost anything after being shown once, etc. I work on pc's all the time, I even repair them as a buisness on the side. And I've never had to use a command line, except for recovery console. I figure, if you need to a command line to fix the problem, you can fix it faster with a reinstall. I've tried the linux way of getting programs, and WAY prefer the windows way. For one thing, it uses a GUI, and a GUI INSTANTLY makes things better. My brain is build to work with images and colors. It is not build to work with obscure text commands that must be memorized.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Tauren
I use Debian on 3 computers at my house. I don't care for it, but try Ubuntu it's made so easy monkey's can use it.

I'm using ubuntu. I am apparently not smart enough to use it. This despite the fact that I can get an A in Calc 3.

try using fedora core 6. It based off red hat

Is it easy? As in, windows or OSX easy?

I found it easy.

it takes some learning though.

That's the problem. I have no desire to learn an OS. I never had to learn windows.

well if you want to use linux, your going have to take some time to learn it. simple as that.

And that is why I'm giving up, and also why linux sucks.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
A) this thread is a troll

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: Markbnj
A) this thread is a troll

Wow. You know how to quote. You get a gold star.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: Markbnj
A) this thread is a troll

Wow. You know how to quote. You get a gold star.

Crap, I forgot E) The OP is an ass.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: Markbnj

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: Markbnj
A) this thread is a troll

Wow. You know how to quote. You get a gold star.

Crap, I forgot E) The OP is an ass.

Well, your right about one thing. I am an ass. I freely admit it. However, I am an ass only because my experience with linux has made me this way.

 

[wolfman11]

Wow.

This is the biggest waste of time string of posts I've read here in a long time...so we've got three pages of "I don't want to learn an OS". "I AM smart, I get A's in Calc 3". "Linux sucks".

Get over it already. It's been well established Linux is not for you.

However, you do have to realize how totally ridiculous you sound when you say you "never had to learn Windows". Of course you did (you "find things with either a quick search, or fumbling around" - if this isn't learning please tell me what it is). Use of a computer is not encoded in your DNA.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

 

[aceO07]

Try OpenSuse. I tried it on my desktop and it's very straight forward. GUI all the way through.

I use slackware on my laptop since I want to learn.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: wolfman11
Wow.

This is the biggest waste of time string of posts I've read here in a long time...so we've got three pages of "I don't want to learn an OS". "I AM smart, I get A's in Calc 3". "Linux sucks".

Get over it already. It's been well established Linux is not for you.

However, you do have to realize how totally ridiculous you sound when you say you "never had to learn Windows". Of course you did (you "find things with either a quick search, or fumbling around" - if this isn't learning please tell me what it is). Use of a computer is not encoded in your DNA.

At no point did I have to look up how-to's or learn text commands to install a program in windows.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

What, exactly, would I want to customize? I'd rather things just work correctly right out of the proverbial box.

 

[jgigz]

Question to OP:

You said you repair computers as a side job. If you are any what of a computer savvy person you will know how to use basic command line functions even in windows. I'm sure most people will agree with me its not too hard to ping, run a tracert etc. etc.

 

[sonoma1993]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

What, exactly, would I want to customize? I'd rather things just work correctly right out of the proverbial box.

you customize linux to fit your needs, pretty much for the things you need it todo.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

What, exactly, would I want to customize? I'd rather things just work correctly right out of the proverbial box.

If you want a cool and fancy/flashy GUI, you can add-in Beryl/XGL/Compiz/any number of things...you can add a dockbar like OSX has...Play windows games with Wine & Cedaga...there are lots of things to customize...

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

What, exactly, would I want to customize? I'd rather things just work correctly right out of the proverbial box.

you customize linux to fit your needs, pretty much for the things you need it todo.

Exactly. I don't need a media center in a network admin box, the same way I don't need novel clients and network utilities on my media center at home...

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: jgigz
Question to OP:

You said you repair computers as a side job. If you are any what of a computer savvy person you will know how to use basic command line functions even in windows. I'm sure most people will agree with me its not too hard to ping, run a tracert etc. etc.

Yes, I do use the command line when forced to, but that's only very rarely, I only need it for very specialized tasks, I only need to know a very few commands, maybe 15, and the command line in XP is not an integral part of the OS.

 

[xtknight]

1) The bash command line in Linux is much more convenient than the Windows one. What exactly are you doing that requires the command line so much?
2) This is why Linux is secure. Just look what happened to XP.
3) Use Synaptic package manager.
4) Compiling anything isn't rocket science. It shouldn't take you more than a couple hours your first try, and after that 15 minutes per program. You don't even have to do it that often in the first place.

Maybe you should calm down and stop swearing. It's not good for your blood pressure. Learning anything new can be frustrating but there's no reason to take on such a staunch agenda. It took me about ten times before I permanently switched over to Linux. XP finally struck my last chord. Just the other day I installed a Promise PCI card and suddenly XP would not boot for no reason.

I've made this post less inflammatory.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: sonoma1993

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: dighn
1) there are multiple GUI choices, and commandline is still better for some things
2) looks like Vista is taking the same approach. there must be something good about it eh?
3/4) there are many ways of installing. You don't have to compile things. the thing with linux is that there are many distributions with various ways of doing the same thing. I agree that this is annoying to deal with and they really should standardize things so there is only ONE standard.

1) Name 1.
2) XP is perfect, except for the occasional security problem, and lack of DX 10. I think Vista does a lot of stupid things.
3) Exactly. I do not want to hunt around for sh1t. Everything should be obvious, and so stupidly simple and optionless that a 6 year old could do it.

1. KDE, Gnome, BlackBox...should I keep going?
2. XP is perfect? My XP box crashes like no other and is slow. My ubuntu rig is flawless. To each his own, I guess...
3. I know 6 year olds that use linux...we installed it on some computers that little kids use in the school where I work, and they love it. Edubuntu has great games...

I guess Tick just hates freebies...especially freebie OSs...

1) I meant name one advantage to a command line
2) I have no problems with XP. I get maybe a crash a month, and it's plenty fast.
3) Have any of those 6 year olds tried installing a program?

1. Command line lets me use a powerful interface for editing files, like network configs and such...but that's just me...I'm not a heavy user, but I customize a lot...

Look at http://leland.info/2007/01/27/linux-101/

What, exactly, would I want to customize? I'd rather things just work correctly right out of the proverbial box.

you customize linux to fit your needs, pretty much for the things you need it todo.

Exactly. I don't need a media center in a network admin box, the same way I don't need novel clients and network utilities on my media center at home...

I'd rather all my boxes have a monolithic OS with everything I could ever want. HDD space is cheap.