Linux

[hishamelprince]

hi all
i was wondering if some one gives me a direct link to download the Linux O.S
Thanks

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: hishamelprince
hi all
i was wondering if some one gives me a direct link to download the Linux O.S
Thanks

Text

 

[flamingspinach]

Um, well, technically that's linux but are you sure you don't want a distro?

-fs

 

[aloser]

Yep - asking for "Linux" is like going to a car dealer and saying you want a "new car" - or possibly requesting a new "game" from a toy store; there are many possibilities, which one would you like?

 

[M00T]

HTTP

Bit Torrent

Thank you, come again.

 

[hishamelprince]

Originally posted by: flamingspinach
Um, well, technically that's linux but are you sure you don't want a distro?

-fs

Thanks for help but i got lost in this page so can you give me a more help?

 

[hishamelprince]

Originally posted by: aloser
Yep - asking for "Linux" is like going to a car dealer and saying you want a "new car" - or possibly requesting a new "game" from a toy store; there are many possibilities, which one would you like?

i am new in linux
so i want the best for a home user

 

[hishamelprince]

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: hishamelprince
hi all
i was wondering if some one gives me a direct link to download the Linux O.S
Thanks

Text

45.77 MB
is that a linux???!

 

[hishamelprince]

Originally posted by: M00T
HTTP

Bit Torrent

Thank you, come again.

Thanks

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: hishamelprince

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: hishamelprince
hi all
i was wondering if some one gives me a direct link to download the Linux O.S
Thanks

Text

45.77 MB
is that a linux???!

Yes...

 

[KoolDrew]

Linux is the kernel. What you want is a linux distribution. This may help you decide which distro is best for you.

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

 

[R3MF]

my recommendation:
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse

 

[M00T]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Linux is the kernel. What you want is a linux distribution. This may help you decide which distro is best for you.

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

Very Interesting. However, I think the main question should be "which package management system do you prefer"... because in most distros, that is the defining difference.

RPM is the worst system ever IMO, and I think it baffles n00bs and experts alike. I highly recommend a distro with apt-get, or even portage if you can wait for things to compile. Keep in mind that distro's like arch linux can narrow the gap between apt-get and portage becase of precompiled binaries.

I already posted the links to Ubuntu cd's above. If you want to try out linux, this distro will be the least frustrating, IMO.

 

[xtknight]

You can fit the Linux kernel on a floppy disk but you want a Linux distribution that's all set up. That's not the best OS for a 'home user'. Try Mandriva or Fedora Core 4.

Go to download, find anything from i386 to i686 (dont get alpha,amd64, etc). The amd64 one you could get if you have an Athlon64 CPU, but drivers and support will be minimal. I say stick to the i386 32-bit one. The ones I linked were the correct ones you need. Ignore the SRPMS-you don't need them to run Linux.

Then get an ISO burner like Nero or Easy CD creator, or the free Alcohol 120% version. Burn all 3-4 discs to CDs, then stick the first CD in your PC and reboot.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: M00T

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Linux is the kernel. What you want is a linux distribution. This may help you decide which distro is best for you.

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

Very Interesting. However, I think the main question should be "which package management system do you prefer"... because in most distros, that is the defining difference.

RPM is the worst system ever IMO, and I think it baffles n00bs and experts alike. I highly recommend a distro with apt-get, or even portage if you can wait for things to compile. Keep in mind that distro's like arch linux can narrow the gap between apt-get and portage becase of precompiled binaries.

I already posted the links to Ubuntu cd's above. If you want to try out linux, this distro will be the least frustrating, IMO.

As someone that doesn't know a lot about modern Linux package management, and has just gotten into making his own RPMs: What's wrong with RPM? What does dpkg have that rpm does not?

 

[Skitzer]

http://www.blagblagblag.org/download/

I use this. It is based on Fedora Core 3 but installs multimedia players by default, plays every type of media out of the box, nothing to configure.
Just choose "everthing" during install.
Blag 4000 should be out very soon (based on Fedora Core 4) ......... can't wait!!

 

[Tbirdkid]

wow, blag is a nice distro just by reading all the info on it... maybe i will give it a try...

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: M00T

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Linux is the kernel. What you want is a linux distribution. This may help you decide which distro is best for you.

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

Very Interesting. However, I think the main question should be "which package management system do you prefer"... because in most distros, that is the defining difference.

RPM is the worst system ever IMO, and I think it baffles n00bs and experts alike. I highly recommend a distro with apt-get, or even portage if you can wait for things to compile. Keep in mind that distro's like arch linux can narrow the gap between apt-get and portage becase of precompiled binaries.

I already posted the links to Ubuntu cd's above. If you want to try out linux, this distro will be the least frustrating, IMO.

As someone that doesn't know a lot about modern Linux package management, and has just gotten into making his own RPMs: What's wrong with RPM? What does dpkg have that rpm does not?

It doesn't have the Debian developement community backing it. They officially support LOTS of software and put lots of effort and has all those rules and different levels of quality control (experimental --> unstable --> testing ---> stable) and such that no rpm-using distro realy has, except on a much smaller scale.

That and for a long time RPM-using distros lacked any form of internet-savy comprehensive package management system for a long time. Yum fixed that though. (the ported apt-get kinda clashed with rpm system itself though. It's a foreign thing that was hacked up to make work, more or less)

Technically I think that rpms format itself is probably superior to dpkg format. I realy never looked into dpkg vs rpm features and such though.

Since Ubuntu is a snapshot of Debian sid plus numerious gnome usability improvements and a few other new features, then they get to benifit from Debian's developers work. Which is fine.. why reinvent the wheel or do a lot of duplicate work if you don't have to?

 

[M00T]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: M00T

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Linux is the kernel. What you want is a linux distribution. This may help you decide which distro is best for you.

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

Very Interesting. However, I think the main question should be "which package management system do you prefer"... because in most distros, that is the defining difference.

RPM is the worst system ever IMO, and I think it baffles n00bs and experts alike. I highly recommend a distro with apt-get, or even portage if you can wait for things to compile. Keep in mind that distro's like arch linux can narrow the gap between apt-get and portage becase of precompiled binaries.

I already posted the links to Ubuntu cd's above. If you want to try out linux, this distro will be the least frustrating, IMO.

As someone that doesn't know a lot about modern Linux package management, and has just gotten into making his own RPMs: What's wrong with RPM? What does dpkg have that rpm does not?

It doesn't have the Debian developement community backing it. They officially support LOTS of software and put lots of effort and has all those rules and different levels of quality control (experimental --> unstable --> testing ---> stable) and such that no rpm-using distro realy has, except on a much smaller scale.

That and for a long time RPM-using distros lacked any form of internet-savy comprehensive package management system for a long time. Yum fixed that though. (the ported apt-get kinda clashed with rpm system itself though. It's a foreign thing that was hacked up to make work, more or less)

Technically I think that rpms format itself is probably superior to dpkg format. I realy never looked into dpkg vs rpm features and such though.

Since Ubuntu is a snapshot of Debian sid plus numerious gnome usability improvements and a few other new features, then they get to benifit from Debian's developers work. Which is fine.. why reinvent the wheel or do a lot of duplicate work if you don't have to?

I suppose that sums it up for me, since I don't have the technical knowledge to compare dpkg and rpm from anything other than a personal experience standpoint.

RPM does seem to be a technically superior design, but it still doesn't tackle the problem of dependencies that causes me and many others so much headache. Yum is a valiant effort and may work nicely, but it's still an infant comparted to apt-get IMO.

Everything I've spoken about is opinion based, but from personal experience I know that my friends are unlikely to enjoy linux or continue with it unless I give them a distro with apt or portage.

EDIT: Ubuntu's http repositories are borked right now... upgrading any packages will most likely result in failure Firefox is no longer working after a failed upgrade.

Post EDIT: removed firefox from synaptec, reinstalled, and everything works now. Strainge how apt-get from cli wasn't working.

 

[Nothinman]

As someone that doesn't know a lot about modern Linux package management, and has just gotten into making his own RPMs: What's wrong with RPM? What does dpkg have that rpm does not?

It's not a problem with RPMs, the package format itself is fine. The problem is with package management layers above RPM and the lack of high quality repositories. Yum sucks, it's terribly slow and in order to get access to any real amount of packages you need to add in 3rd party repositories. The good thing about RPMs is that they're simple to create, so deploying custom software can be done without much work.

RPM does seem to be a technically superior design, but it still doesn't tackle the problem of dependencies that causes me and many others so much headache

The formats are largely the same, there are differences like RPM uses cpio for it's internal archive and deb uses tar.gz. I believe debs have more stanzas to describe how a package should interact with other packages (i.e. depends, suggests, provides, conflicts, replaces, etc), but I don't think that's too big of a deal. And RPM nor dpkg will ever attempt to fix the dependency problem because it's not their job, it's the job of the layer above them (i.e. apt, yum, up2date, etc).

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
http://www.blagblagblag.org/download/

I use this. It is based on Fedora Core 3 but installs multimedia players by default, plays every type of media out of the box, nothing to configure.
Just choose "everthing" during install.
Blag 4000 should be out very soon (based on Fedora Core 4) ......... can't wait!!

sounds interesting

 

[RadiclDreamer]

linuxiso.org

 

[DidlySquat]

Originally posted by: hishamelprince

Originally posted by: M00T
HTTP

Bit Torrent

Thank you, come again.

Thanks

No wait !!!

While I agree Ubuntu is a very good Linux distro (suitable for beginners), he gave you a link to the preview (e.g. beta) version of the upcoming 5.10 (october) release of Ubuntu. I recommend you install the current release 5.04, which is the stable final version from april. You can later use Ubuntu automatic updates to upgrade to the next version when its released.

Repeat: DO NOT USE THE 5.10 BETA VERSION UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS DEALING WITH PROBLEMS !!! (there is good reason why it's called beta right now)

Link to Ubuntu Linux 5.04 Download page

sometimes I'm surprised how people here practically dig a hole for new Linux users to fall into. People, the most important thing when giving advice to newbies is to keep it simple stupid.

 

[hooflung]

While I think Ubuntu 5.10 is pretty stable for most new users, especially compared to OpenSuSe10 RC1 for x64, I would go for Ubuntu5.04 x86. However, don't forget this late in the game 5.10 beta xXX will update to 5.10 stable when it is finally released.

 

[maverick2604]

since we are mentioning ubuntu here... how do you edit the command line in the Grub OS menu when you dual boot ubuntu and windows? say ubuntu is the default and i want to change it to windows... i am lost as to how to change the default OS....