Lipstick on a pig?

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
As a Conservative, something people want you to be ashamed of (I'm not), I've never really liked McCain when you look at his votes. Yeah he did vote for 90% of the bills Bush signed, but the majority of those were spending/budget bills. When you look at the issues, the surge, immagration and education, McCain took sides against Bush.

That might be enough for you, but it is not anywhere near enough for many other people. That is why Obama will win and McCain will lose. No one wants the spend like Bush was spending anymore. They don't even want it to be 50% like Bush let alone 90%.

:laugh:

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
As a Conservative, something people want you to be ashamed of (I'm not), I've never really liked McCain when you look at his votes. Yeah he did vote for 90% of the bills Bush signed, but the majority of those were spending/budget bills. When you look at the issues, the surge, immagration and education, McCain took sides against Bush.

That might be enough for you, but it is not anywhere near enough for many other people. That is why Obama will win and McCain will lose. No one wants the spend like Bush was spending anymore. They don't even want it to be 50% like Bush let alone 90%.

:laugh:

Laugh all you want. We'll see who is laughing in November.

You want more? How about you take a look at how McCain's view on education as you mentioned and how his desire for vouchers to fund private schools would completely wreck public funding for education. Look up the 5-7-9 amendments which recently got shot down in FL and with good reason. They are right in line with McCain's way of thinking and it sucks. It doesn't matter if it is similar to what Bush wanted or not.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

blah blah blah atleast I have some number... what do you have ?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

This gripe about "lipstick on a pig" is just as stupid as the "uppity" statement. Both are examples of each side jumping up and down and pointing fingers at the other.

One thing this election year has made clear is that is sure as hell wasn't Bush who was the divider. It's the staunch knuckleheads of each party who are widening that chasm.

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The joke is on the jack-booted Rethuglican hordes - marching lock-step with their Goebbels propaganda. You can feel the desperation in the Contard lies.

75% of the American people know that Prickly McHeat is just 4 more years of George Bush. You can't put lipstick on that pig.

Wow were you in coma for the last few days... I see more desteration on the Dem side, sending a team of 30 to Alsaka to dig up old dirt, BHO loosing his mind and trying to attack under the belt... and what 75% are you talking about??? some poll conducted by the left over black panthers ???

Your obsession with race tends to lead me to believe ... you have scum-bag tendencies. Besides that, your comments seems juvenile and baseless. I'm thinking you are a Young Republican trying (and failing) to get his 'street cred'. I'm thinking you are 22 years old - with a 12 year old's intellect.

Once again, when the Republican bubble bursts (and it will), you will fall even further behind as 75% of the American people know Prickly McSame is just a George Bush Clone.

Apparently, you have yet to see the latest Wall Street Journal poll.

So. With all your bluster you actually offend the pig. And you Fail

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
This gripe about "lipstick on a pig" is just as stupid as the "uppity" statement. Both are examples of each side jumping up and down and pointing fingers at the other.

One thing this election year has made clear is that is sure as hell wasn't Bush who was the divider. It's the staunch knuckleheads of each party who are widening that chasm.

Agreed on both parts :thumbsup:, however you forgot to mention the lipstick on the pig thing said by a candidate, while the uppity thing wasn't...

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

That's exactly what I am talking about. Those numbers really don't prove much of anything because they do not take into consideration the whole picture. Andy stated that "the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues". Well, what about all of the Americans that don't get their news from TV? What about all of the Americans that don't watch the news at all and form their opinions based on information that take in from hear say or e-mails? None of these people are taken into consideration within these kinds of numbers. That is one hell of a wide margin of error.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The joke is on the jack-booted Rethuglican hordes - marching lock-step with their Goebbels propaganda. You can feel the desperation in the Contard lies.

75% of the American people know that Prickly McHeat is just 4 more years of George Bush. You can't put lipstick on that pig.

Wow were you in coma for the last few days... I see more desteration on the Dem side, sending a team of 30 to Alsaka to dig up old dirt, BHO loosing his mind and trying to attack under the belt... and what 75% are you talking about??? some poll conducted by the left over black panthers ???

<Your obsession with race tends to lead me to believe ... you have scum-bag tendencies. Besides that, your comments seems juvenile and baseless. I'm thinking you are a Young Republican trying (and failing) to get his 'street cred'. I'm thinking you are 22 years old - with a 12 year old's intellect.

Once again, when the Republican bubble bursts (and it will), you will fall even further behind as 75% of the American people know Prickly McSame is just a George Bush Clone.

Apparently, you have yet to see the latest Wall Street Journal poll.

So. With all your bluster you actually offend the pig. And you Fail

Wow i guess I will retreat to my den and do some should searching...
Dude your personal attacks on me dont effect me a bit coz i was just replying to you post in the your language. from me you get 2x what you throw at me. After all I am facing the zombie followers of robin hoodish socialist racist scum bag.

about the #s... well you again pointed to a left loon source

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

That's exactly what I am talking about. Those numbers really don't prove much of anything because they do not take into consideration the whole picture. Andy stated that "the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues". Well, what about all of the Americans that don't get their news from TV? What about all of the Americans that don't watch the news at all and form their opinions based on information that take in from hear say or e-mails? None of these people are taken into consideration within these kinds of numbers. That is one hell of a wide margin of error.

Typical, changing the subject... we were talking about TV... Anyways for all the other people reading and I read to sorry if you don't, but printed media is just as bad on both sides, and radio media, I will agree with you that it is slanted to the right. I guess the libs have the advantage on TV the right have radio as for printed media... well all we have to do is look at NY Times, LA Times and Washington Post and we know which way the major papers lean... they are loosing readership as they fall on their left arms.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle


For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

What's truly ridiculous about your straw man argument and link is that you are holding up O'Reilly's viewership (1 million) with a comparison to other cable channels. I got news for yah, bud ...

That viewership is nothing .

30 million people watch the evening news. 14 million people watch network morning news. Sunday network news programs have 10 million viewers.

There are 3 times the numbers of viewers who watch Frontline on PBS than watch O'Reilly's tripe.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

And your take on Fox News is laughable. You are showing yourself to be a very uninformed on the topic of media bias. Fox News is about as close to the center as the Republican or Democratic conventions were.

For news is popular because of its conservative values, maybe those values are right or far right but majority of ppl, ppl at the center and center left like them, things such as prayers in schools, criticizing teen pregnancy, having to explain to your child why 1 of the 2 men living next door is called wife, why govt is spending so much money on illegal immigrants, why they can do anything while we cant even touch them, the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues, after all being a part of the majority is not a sin or crime but in today?s world the minority rules... and this channel speaks for the majority

**** END OF TROLL ****

Uhhh no dude. Fox is not as popular as you might think, but you go ahead and keep believing that based on whatever ridiculous numbers you find which are misleading from an educated conclusion. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

That's exactly what I am talking about. Those numbers really don't prove much of anything because they do not take into consideration the whole picture. Andy stated that "the "majority" of Americans like Fox's take on these issues". Well, what about all of the Americans that don't get their news from TV? What about all of the Americans that don't watch the news at all and form their opinions based on information that take in from hear say or e-mails? None of these people are taken into consideration within these kinds of numbers. That is one hell of a wide margin of error.

i totally agree with you. but everything I said was from the perspective of "compared to other news channels"

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The joke is on the jack-booted Rethuglican hordes - marching lock-step with their Goebbels propaganda. You can feel the desperation in the Contard lies.

75% of the American people know that Prickly McHeat is just 4 more years of George Bush. You can't put lipstick on that pig.

Wow were you in coma for the last few days... I see more desteration on the Dem side, sending a team of 30 to Alsaka to dig up old dirt, BHO loosing his mind and trying to attack under the belt... and what 75% are you talking about??? some poll conducted by the left over black panthers ???

<<Your obsession with race tends to lead me to believe ... you have scum-bag tendencies. Besides that, your comments seems juvenile and baseless. I'm thinking you are a Young Republican trying (and failing) to get his 'street cred'. I'm thinking you are 22 years old - with a 12 year old's intellect.

Once again, when the Republican bubble bursts (and it will), you will fall even further behind as 75% of the American people know Prickly McSame is just a George Bush Clone.

Apparently, you have yet to see the latest Wall Street Journal poll.

So. With all your bluster you actually offend the pig. And you Fail

Wow i guess I will retreat to my den and do some should searching...
Dude your personal attacks on me dont effect me a bit coz i was just replying to you post in the your language. from me you get 2x what you throw at me. After all I am facing the zombie followers of robin hoodish socialist racist scum bag.

about the #s... well you again pointed to a left loon source

Buzzzz. Fail, again

The same person that owns Faux News owns the WSJ.

Quit while you are well, well behind ...

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

ya attack how much ever you want but why attach the handicaps, they are nowere in the discussion. that aspect is nowhere in picture. say whatever you want about me or repubs or whoever but what you said is was totally out of scope

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

ya attack how much ever you want but why attach the handicaps, they are nowere in the discussion. that aspect is nowhere in picture. say whatever you want about me or repubs or whoever but what you said is was totally out of scope

Stop being so uppity, it was just a joke, it's used all the time.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

If "Chicago style politics" is having your opponent say ingnorant staments that only hurts his own campaign, I say bring it on!

Why should McCain attack? Obama is hand delivering him votes. If anything, he should send him a thank you card.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Typical, changing the subject... we were talking about TV... Anyways for all the other people reading and I read to sorry if you don't, but printed media is just as bad on both sides, and radio media, I will agree with you that it is slanted to the right. I guess the libs have the advantage on TV the right have radio as for printed media... well all we have to do is look at NY Times, LA Times and Washington Post and we know which way the major papers lean... they are loosing readership as they fall on their left arms.

Well, to be fair, when I hear or read "Fox" I don't immediately think of TV. I think of their website so it really wasn't an attempt to change subjects, but in the end a story by Fox is a story by Fox just like any other source of news.

Otherwise, we are both on the same page in regards to their being both left and right sources of biased news media. However, choosing to lean more towards the left doesn't lose any more readership than leaning towards the right.

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: badnewcastle


For those not convinced that Fox is popular when compared to other cable news networks.

raw numbers.

What's truly ridiculous about your straw man argument and link is that you are holding up O'Reilly's viewership (1 million) with a comparison to other cable channels. I got news for yah, bud ...

That viewership is nothing .

30 million people watch the evening news. 14 million people watch network morning news. Sunday network news programs have 10 million viewers.

There are 3 times the numbers of viewers who watch Frontline on PBS than watch O'Reilly's tripe.

Read further down it breaks it down by prime time, nights and other programs not just O'Reilly who just happens to have the most.

 

[badnewcastle]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Typical, changing the subject... we were talking about TV... Anyways for all the other people reading and I read to sorry if you don't, but printed media is just as bad on both sides, and radio media, I will agree with you that it is slanted to the right. I guess the libs have the advantage on TV the right have radio as for printed media... well all we have to do is look at NY Times, LA Times and Washington Post and we know which way the major papers lean... they are loosing readership as they fall on their left arms.

Well, to be fair, when I hear or read "Fox" I don't immediately think of TV. I think of their website so it really wasn't an attempt to change subjects, but in the end a story by Fox is a story by Fox just like any other source of news.

Otherwise, we are both on the same page in regards to their being both left and right sources of biased news media. However, choosing to lean more towards the left doesn't lose any more readership than leaning towards the right.

Agreed. :beer: When I think of Fox, I also think of the website as with any other media, but that probably goes along with both of us posting on AT.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

If "Chicago style politics" is having your opponent say ingnorant staments that only hurts his own campaign, I say bring it on!

Why should McCain attack? Obama is hand delivering him votes. If anything, he should send him a thank you card.

What he said can only be considered an ignorant statement by those that are too stupid or too lazy to see that the context was anything but referring to Palin and the sound bite clip that McCain is going to run with is about as honest of an ad as Bush saying that he was opposed to the Iraq invasion from the beginning.

But if you want to add your name to the list of people that think it was "an ignorant statement"....feel free. At least we now where to categorize you.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

If "Chicago style politics" is having your opponent say ingnorant staments that only hurts his own campaign, I say bring it on!

Why should McCain attack? Obama is hand delivering him votes. If anything, he should send him a thank you card.

What he said can only be considered an ignorant statement by those that are too stupid or too lazy to see that the context was anything but referring to Palin and the sound bite clip that McCain is going to run with is about as honest of an ad as Bush saying that he was opposed to the Iraq invasion from the beginning.

But if you want to add your name to the list of people that think it was "an ignorant statement"....feel free. At least we now where to categorize you.

Please explain how it was not an ignorant statement.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What's the point, this is like special olympics, if you win you're still a retard

thats a really sad statement for the handicaps... shame on you. :disgust:

Boooohooohooo cry a river moron. This is what real "Chicago style politics" is. its gonna get more down and dirty. deal with it stop complaining and start attacking.

If "Chicago style politics" is having your opponent say ingnorant staments that only hurts his own campaign, I say bring it on!

Why should McCain attack? Obama is hand delivering him votes. If anything, he should send him a thank you card.

What he said can only be considered an ignorant statement by those that are too stupid or too lazy to see that the context was anything but referring to Palin and the sound bite clip that McCain is going to run with is about as honest of an ad as Bush saying that he was opposed to the Iraq invasion from the beginning.

But if you want to add your name to the list of people that think it was "an ignorant statement"....feel free. At least we now where to categorize you.

Please explain how it was not an ignorant statement.

Watch the full context of the statement and it is self explanatory.

It is blatantly clear that it was very contextually appropriate and very accurate. And it had nothing to do with Palin even though McCain is crying crocodile tears stating the opposite.

Edit: Corrected link to correct video

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: manowar821
Well, he wasn't talking about her. He was making a general comment on their policies.

But I'll say it about her. She's a pig. She demands as much respect from me as the pope does, absolutely none. Enjoy another wannabe despot, though.

LOL. those in glass basements shouldn't throw stones.

So, is that supposed to combat the fact that her and McCain are both just the next in a line of POS lying despots constantly being churned out by the "conservative" party? Or did you really just have nothing to say, like usual?

Oh, and where is this basement or glass you speak of?