List the things you hate while at the gym

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Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: sygyzy
What does it matter how light someone's weights are? Because you are stronger than them? I don't see how your complaint has any validity.

No. Because 100 reps at 20 lbs, when they can obviously do more (they are not struggling to do this at all) seems kind of futile. Its just a minor annoyance, however. They aren't doing anything for their muscles doing this.

Actually, very high rep/low weight routines are good for specific muscular endurance.

LoL, says you. Says me: It's a cheap form of half cardio and you don't get big from it.

Not everyone is trying to get big, or even build muscle mass. While I build for mass, I have to admit it's dickheads like you who make bodybuilders look bad. Luckily we don;t have people like you in my gym... or if we do, they keep their ignorant mouths shut.

And highrep workouts ARE used for specific muscular endurance, and as someone else pointed out, physical therapy. Highrep workouts are also good for people with arthritis.

Not everyone has the same goals as you or I do. It's time you grew up and realized that.

Struck a nerve, did I? Good. Maybe you'll learn something now, and stop spouting off wrong information...The primary goal, when ever touching a weight, is to build muscle, and to get stronger. Yes, you will get stronger by going high rep/low weight, but it's a highly inefficient and SLOW way to build strength You want endurance? That's a function of c-a-r-d-i-o.

No sht some people can't lift heavy, wtf doesn't know that? Thanks for educating me daddy, now can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?

You obviously don't have the same goals as me if you follow the BS you just spouted out of your cornhole. Let me ask you, can someone who can max bench press 500 lbs do more reps then someone who can only max out 250lbs? BTW: Define muscular endurance. It'll be interesting to what information source you link to. Ignorant mouth shut? Please, I would embarrass you at the gym. Ask Melvin (RagingBitch) what I lift, "dickhead" (way to show your class, I bet you get ALL the ladies!).

EDIT: I'm off to the gym to deadlift. I'll check back to see your response later.

When one does cardio with their legs, they build MUSCULAR ENDURANCE. Ever try doing cardio with your arms, like rowing??? Why would someone ROW? Could it be to BUILD MUSCULAR ENDURANCE??? Sure, that's great for your biceps and back, but what if you want to build muscular endurance in other parts of your upper body?

Hint: You wont get muscular endurance from building size and strength. This explains why someone half your size could row all day long while you poop out after 20 minutes.

Now, besides specific muscular endurance, there is also therapeutic exercise to help with joint pain, most often because of injury or diseases like arthritis.

NONE of these goals is helped the least bit by low volume, high intensity weight training. They must be reached by HIGH volume, low intensity training.

The only person spouting here is you. You are ignorantly bleating the advise given to people who wish to train for strength and size. While I will agree that this happens to be the vast majority of people, there ARE cases in which high volume, low intensity weight training is beneficial. And that was my point from the beginning.

Do *I* follow high volume low intensity training? No, of course not. None of my goals would be reached by it. Would I suggest high volume low intensity training to someone who wants pain relief from arthritis? Of course. High intensity weight training will only aggravate their condition. The same with someone undergoing physical therapy for an injury.

Screw endurance. It's all about gettin BIG! When I fight you, I wanna be able to knock yo ass out in one punch.

just my two cents.

 

[Rainsford]

People (both men and women) who hang out and make some silly attempt to look like they are working out, but really spend all their time trying to pick someone up. The guys are especially annoying doing some huge amount of weights for 1 or 2 reps right when some hot girl happens to be looking over.

Look, I'm all for meeting people, but going to a gym just to meet someone is kind of annoying. It's not a damn nightclub people, some of us are actually trying to work out, and you sitting on the machine flirting with some random person kind of gets in the way.

 

[melly]

1. Was I the inspiration for this thread?
2. ROFL @ Minendo.
3. The thing I hate is having to adjust the equipment to my height and weight...breaks the momentum when doing the circuit, you know?

 

[Pepsei]

Yeah, catch ringworms from other people's sweat is up there at the top...

oh wait, i have my own gym, nevermind.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: sygyzy
What does it matter how light someone's weights are? Because you are stronger than them? I don't see how your complaint has any validity.

No. Because 100 reps at 20 lbs, when they can obviously do more (they are not struggling to do this at all) seems kind of futile. Its just a minor annoyance, however. They aren't doing anything for their muscles doing this.

Actually, very high rep/low weight routines are good for specific muscular endurance.

LoL, says you. Says me: It's a cheap form of half cardio and you don't get big from it.

Not everyone is trying to get big, or even build muscle mass. While I build for mass, I have to admit it's dickheads like you who make bodybuilders look bad. Luckily we don;t have people like you in my gym... or if we do, they keep their ignorant mouths shut.

And highrep workouts ARE used for specific muscular endurance, and as someone else pointed out, physical therapy. Highrep workouts are also good for people with arthritis.

Not everyone has the same goals as you or I do. It's time you grew up and realized that.

Struck a nerve, did I? Good. Maybe you'll learn something now, and stop spouting off wrong information...The primary goal, when ever touching a weight, is to build muscle, and to get stronger. Yes, you will get stronger by going high rep/low weight, but it's a highly inefficient and SLOW way to build strength You want endurance? That's a function of c-a-r-d-i-o.

No sht some people can't lift heavy, wtf doesn't know that? Thanks for educating me daddy, now can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?

You obviously don't have the same goals as me if you follow the BS you just spouted out of your cornhole. Let me ask you, can someone who can max bench press 500 lbs do more reps then someone who can only max out 250lbs? BTW: Define muscular endurance. It'll be interesting to what information source you link to. Ignorant mouth shut? Please, I would embarrass you at the gym. Ask Melvin (RagingBitch) what I lift, "dickhead" (way to show your class, I bet you get ALL the ladies!).

EDIT: I'm off to the gym to deadlift. I'll check back to see your response later.

When one does cardio with their legs, they build MUSCULAR ENDURANCE. Ever try doing cardio with your arms, like rowing??? Why would someone ROW? Could it be to BUILD MUSCULAR ENDURANCE??? Sure, that's great for your biceps and back, but what if you want to build muscular endurance in other parts of your upper body?

Hint: You wont get muscular endurance from building size and strength. This explains why someone half your size could row all day long while you poop out after 20 minutes.

Now, besides specific muscular endurance, there is also therapeutic exercise to help with joint pain, most often because of injury or diseases like arthritis.

NONE of these goals is helped the least bit by low volume, high intensity weight training. They must be reached by HIGH volume, low intensity training.

The only person spouting here is you. You are ignorantly bleating the advise given to people who wish to train for strength and size. While I will agree that this happens to be the vast majority of people, there ARE cases in which high volume, low intensity weight training is beneficial. And that was my point from the beginning.

Do *I* follow high volume low intensity training? No, of course not. None of my goals would be reached by it. Would I suggest high volume low intensity training to someone who wants pain relief from arthritis? Of course. High intensity weight training will only aggravate their condition. The same with someone undergoing physical therapy for an injury.

I don't think your example of rowing is a function of muscular endurance, but endurance/cardio in general. What is the difference? Of course I would get tired after rowing for 20 minutes, because I probably don't a)Have strong secondary muscles for that particular task which can only be built up by rowing every day, and/or training with an exercise that simulates the rowing motion such as the seated cable row and b)My cardiovascular system is not as built up as someone in crew, unless I specifically did a sport that requires your endurance (not muscle endurance) to be built up such as cross country, track, etc. where you build up your stamina/endurance/cardio (all the same).

I don't see what "muscle endurance" has to do with the elderly or arthritic people at all? The fact is, they cannot lift heavy to build strength so the next best thing next to NOT lifting is to go light. It's easier on their joints, and plus they can still build muscle at a very slow rate. It has nothing at all to do with anything related to "endurance", you could argue that if that had more stamina from doing cardio that yes, they could lift more.

Take my example: a guy who can max 500lbs on bench, AND runs cross country (his cardiovascular system/endurance is built up, i.e. his red blood cell count is higher and can transport oxygen at a faster rate than someone who just lifts. Take someone who can max 250lbs on bench and also runs cross country. The man who can max out at 250lbs trains with only 135 lbs on the bar and does super high reps with it, whereas the man who can do 500lbs trains with 315 and does a normal amount of reps. If you honestly think that the 250lb max can outrep the 500lb max at 135, then you're wrong. Ask any serious bodybuilder (such as myself), there is a fine line between cardio (what I think you are calling muscle endurance) and strength/building mass (the two are highly correlated, the stronger you get, the more muscle fiber that's built).

 

[RagingBITCH]

So why am I being dragged into this Rob? But from what I know, Rob is long and hard. oops I mean lifts long and hard.

Just a quick change of pace: things I like at the gym - rainy inclement, cold weather. Keeps all the douchebags out of the gym and leave the gym for the packrats. Like last night.

 

[Geekbabe]

people who try to speak to me when sweating is running off me like a river and I'm gasping for air finishing a heavy duty incline session on the treadmill

him:"I've never seen you here before"

me: A sure sign you don't come to the gym enough!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So why am I being dragged into this Rob? But from what I know, Rob is long and hard. oops I mean lifts long and hard.

Just a quick change of pace: things I like at the gym - rainy inclement, cold weather. Keeps all the douchebags out of the gym and leave the gym for the packrats. Like last night.

What's up man? How did Max-OT work for ya? Still following the program? Yes I like to lift for about an hour and fifteen a day X5 days a week, finally got my dumbbell reps up to the 115/120 range...

Yeah I also like the rainy weather, the soft people definitely stay home. Just like a month and a half after new year's (now), the resolutioners start to drop off like flies and stop clogging the gym.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So why am I being dragged into this Rob? But from what I know, Rob is long and hard. oops I mean lifts long and hard.

Just a quick change of pace: things I like at the gym - rainy inclement, cold weather. Keeps all the douchebags out of the gym and leave the gym for the packrats. Like last night.

What's up man? How did Max-OT work for ya? Still following the program? Yes I like to lift for about an hour and fifteen a day X5 days a week, finally got my dumbbell reps up to the 115/120 range...

Yeah I also like the rainy weather, the soft people definitely stay home. Just like a month and a half after new year's (now), the resolutioners start to drop off like flies and stop clogging the gym.

Hey Rob - yea still doing MaxOT. I kinda veered off track and am just doing 3 days a week because I can't seem to make it in 4 days. (The 3/1 split) I also think I stopped reading after like week 7 or 8 lol. oops. I'm just focusing mainly on putting on some weight at the moment without doing cardio - I've put on about 5 lbs more or less since January, but can't tell if that's all muscle. I've been eating a lot more and recording my calorie/protein intake though, which I never used to do. Damn I'm still doing 75/80's for dumbbells. I'm finally making some progress on my squats though

But yea, can't wait for the resolutioners to get the fvck out.

 

[GoingUp]

People who grunt really loudly in teh gym and people who sweat profusely and then dont wipe it off.

If someone is grunting obnoxiously loud near me, and im doing something simple like curls, I often try to grunt even louder than them. It usually shuts them up pretty quick....

 

[Majesty]

The things I hate the most while at the gym are:

- People doing cardiovascular. Waste of time and more subject to injuries.
- People actually doing the Nautilus kind of training. You know, weight the lift in 2 seconds and drop them just as fast. Hey! they're wasting 1 or 2 hours of their life per session doing something that could take 15 minutes and be MUCH more effective!! But, that's another story...

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Majesty
The things I hate the most while at the gym are:

- People doing cardiovascular. Waste of time and more subject to injuries.
- People actually doing the Nautilus kind of training. You know, weight the lift in 2 seconds and drop them just as fast. Hey! they're wasting 1 or 2 hours of their life per session doing something that could take 15 minutes and be MUCH more effective!! But, that's another story...

I started at the gym on Nautilus equipment and found it to be really helpful in getting some general strength in my muscles and tendons.Also if you're taught correctly you know to pause for a few seconds after each lift to hold the muscle contraction.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: minendo
Farters

i cant help it if i get excited during my workouts...

 

[emb09]

smelly bastards!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So why am I being dragged into this Rob? But from what I know, Rob is long and hard. oops I mean lifts long and hard.

Just a quick change of pace: things I like at the gym - rainy inclement, cold weather. Keeps all the douchebags out of the gym and leave the gym for the packrats. Like last night.

What's up man? How did Max-OT work for ya? Still following the program? Yes I like to lift for about an hour and fifteen a day X5 days a week, finally got my dumbbell reps up to the 115/120 range...

Yeah I also like the rainy weather, the soft people definitely stay home. Just like a month and a half after new year's (now), the resolutioners start to drop off like flies and stop clogging the gym.

Hey Rob - yea still doing MaxOT. I kinda veered off track and am just doing 3 days a week because I can't seem to make it in 4 days. (The 3/1 split) I also think I stopped reading after like week 7 or 8 lol. oops. I'm just focusing mainly on putting on some weight at the moment without doing cardio - I've put on about 5 lbs more or less since January, but can't tell if that's all muscle. I've been eating a lot more and recording my calorie/protein intake though, which I never used to do. Damn I'm still doing 75/80's for dumbbells. I'm finally making some progress on my squats though

But yea, can't wait for the resolutioners to get the fvck out.

Good to hear man. I can't wait till it gets warmer (been 30's for past month in the NE), so I can go to the gym in the morning to get a quick cardio session in. I really don't do enough cardio, so I have alot of mass but it's not shredded/toned. Funny how when you're toned, you want mass... but when you have the mass, you want to be toned. I think the only real way to do this is to hit the gym twice a day, splitting cardio and weights to prevent overtraining ( as opposed to in one session).

This one guy at my gym comes in at 9am for about an hour, and then comes in around dinner time for weights. He just won the Mr.Southern Maryland contest, so I'm anxious to try it. Too bad we have to work for a living, wish I could just get paid to work out everyday.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So why am I being dragged into this Rob? But from what I know, Rob is long and hard. oops I mean lifts long and hard.

Just a quick change of pace: things I like at the gym - rainy inclement, cold weather. Keeps all the douchebags out of the gym and leave the gym for the packrats. Like last night.

What's up man? How did Max-OT work for ya? Still following the program? Yes I like to lift for about an hour and fifteen a day X5 days a week, finally got my dumbbell reps up to the 115/120 range...

Yeah I also like the rainy weather, the soft people definitely stay home. Just like a month and a half after new year's (now), the resolutioners start to drop off like flies and stop clogging the gym.

Hey Rob - yea still doing MaxOT. I kinda veered off track and am just doing 3 days a week because I can't seem to make it in 4 days. (The 3/1 split) I also think I stopped reading after like week 7 or 8 lol. oops. I'm just focusing mainly on putting on some weight at the moment without doing cardio - I've put on about 5 lbs more or less since January, but can't tell if that's all muscle. I've been eating a lot more and recording my calorie/protein intake though, which I never used to do. Damn I'm still doing 75/80's for dumbbells. I'm finally making some progress on my squats though

But yea, can't wait for the resolutioners to get the fvck out.

Good to hear man. I can't wait till it gets warmer (been 30's for past month in the NE), so I can go to the gym in the morning to get a quick cardio session in. I really don't do enough cardio, so I have alot of mass but it's not shredded/toned. Funny how when you're toned, you want mass... but when you have the mass, you want to be toned. I think the only real way to do this is to hit the gym twice a day, splitting cardio and weights to prevent overtraining ( as opposed to in one session).

This one guy at my gym comes in at 9am for about an hour, and then comes in around dinner time for weights. He just won the Mr.Southern Maryland contest, so I'm anxious to try it. Too bad we have to work for a living, wish I could just get paid to work out everyday.

We have a treadmill at my house so I'm considering doing cardio in the morning before work and then lifting after work.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Majesty
The things I hate the most while at the gym are:

- People doing cardiovascular. Waste of time and more subject to injuries.
- People actually doing the Nautilus kind of training. You know, weight the lift in 2 seconds and drop them just as fast. Hey! they're wasting 1 or 2 hours of their life per session doing something that could take 15 minutes and be MUCH more effective!! But, that's another story...

The Machines do work but most of those who use them are new to working out and don't usually work with them correctly. Of course they aren't as good as Free Weights but if done right they do work well.

I do disagree that doing Cardio at the Gym being subjected to more injuries than those who do Cardio outside of the gym I disagre. The Eliptical and Tread Mills are more of a controlled enviroment which I think would help prevent injuries and the Eliptical is easier on your joints and bones than running on the track or streets.

 

[NeoPTLD]

People who whine about things you're whining about at the gym.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Majesty
The things I hate the most while at the gym are:

- People doing cardiovascular. Waste of time and more subject to injuries.
- People actually doing the Nautilus kind of training. You know, weight the lift in 2 seconds and drop them just as fast. Hey! they're wasting 1 or 2 hours of their life per session doing something that could take 15 minutes and be MUCH more effective!! But, that's another story...

The Machines do work but most of those who use them are new to working out and don't usually work with them correctly. Of course they aren't as good as Free Weights but if done right they do work well.

I do disagree that doing Cardio at the Gym being subjected to more injuries than those who do Cardio outside of the gym I disagre. The Eliptical and Tread Mills are more of a controlled enviroment which I think would help prevent injuries and the Eliptical is easier on your joints and bones than running on the track or streets.

The best thing for cardio, IMO, is the recumbent bike. Check out www.ast-ss.com and check out their MAX-OT cardio program. Their reasoning is that you can go all out on a recumbent and avoid injury as opposed to the treadmill and elliptical's....