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imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: brigden
You can't argue with me because I'm right, so you try to attack me personally. Brilliant.

I can guarentee if you took a list of the 100 most cultured, sophisticated individuals modern American society has to offer, not a single one of them would list "shooting large automatic weapons and blowing up cars" as a hobby or interest.

However, should you make a list of the 100 most ignorant, ass-backward hicks of modern American society, a large majority would claim to be lifetime members to that club in that video.

You idiots are so blind to your own repulsive, philistine lives.


You could actually make that list longer... something like 10.000 individuals, ans still get the same results...
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: brigden
Blowing up cars isn't cultured entertainment by ANY stretch of the imagination.

You don't have to go to broadway shows every weekend to be considered "civilized."


Wow.. broadway shows as an example of extremely sophisticated cultural event...
This one says a lot....
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
The Framers gave to us a method for changing the Constitution precisely for these very circumstances when society no longer believes some part of the Constitution serves them, known as the amendment process. Making an end-run around the Constitution for ANY right only sets precedent and lays the groundwork for further end-runs, perhaps around those rights you "feel" are still relevant.

Uh huh. What do you mean by end-run - explain please.

The Right to Bear Arms is an amendment - #2.

So is Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. That came 75 years later.

Would you rather we left it the way the "Framers" intended? Why don't we take away a woman's right to vote - Amendment #19, passed in 1920.

Times change. I'm not saying ignore the Constitution - because well...that would be illegal.

I'm saying vote to change it. That IS the way it's supposed to work.

But don't worry, they'll never repeal the 2nd amendment. Too many rednecks left in this country for that to happen.







 

Specop 007

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The Right to own firearms is a Constitutionally protected Right.

You dont have to like it, but that doesnt change the fact.

/end thread
 

CFster

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You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?

Doesn't appear logical to me, it appears to be paranoia.

Do you honestly believe a tank is going to come rolling down your street tomorrow?




 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?

Doesn't appear logical to me, it appears to be paranoia.

Look at history. It is well justified 'paranoia. '

How in the world do you think we won the Revolutionary War in the first place? It sure as heck wasn't with baseball bats and knives. Us Americans decided we didn't want to be taxed anymore by the British, and we were willing to go to war over it. With no guns, we would probably still be under British rule right now.

The same thing could happen again when we have decided we have had enough, and we would need our guns to initiate a second Amercian revolution. Take away all the guns and you are now permanently the government's little b!tch.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?

Do you honestly believe a tank is going to come rolling down your street tomorrow?

No, but how does that have anything to do with what I said? I said that someday, not tomorrow or even the day after, but some day we as Americans might decide we don't want our current government anymore. Do you think the politicians will just give up their power once the voting booths are empty? If you think so you are delusional. Those who have power will not be willing to give it up so easily. And if the citizens are disarmed, the tyranny will continue indefinately.

 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?

Doesn't appear logical to me, it appears to be paranoia.

Look at history. It is well justified 'paranoia. '

How in the world do you think we won the Revolutionary War in the first place? It sure as heck wasn't with baseball bats and knives. Us Americans decided we didn't want to be taxed anymore by the British, and we were willing to go to war over it. With no guns, we would probably still be under British rule right now.

The same thing could happen again when we have decided we have had enough, and we would need our guns to initiate a second Amercian revolution. Take away all the guns and you are now permanently the government's little b!tch.

Ok, forgetting for a minute that that happened 224 years ago, and that the American government you're going to overthrow is comprised of...well Americans, voted into office by Americans (exactly who are you going to fight) - exactly what kind of government do you propose to create afterwards?

If you want to change policy, then do so by voting - come on, use the Constitution to your advantage - you know, the one you're hiding behind.

 

CFster

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You see, it's you paranoid quacks that have me worried.

Having a gun is one thing (even if I don't agree with it), some people own them for target practice, hunting or personal protection.

But it's paranoid fools like you that have machine guns in your basement.

 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You just proved yourself to be a text book example of what I said in an earlier post.

It always comes back to that arguement. When no logical reasoning will prevail, you people always fall back on the Constitution, however flawed or dated it may be.

That's why there are Amendments, and why sometimes Amendments are repealed.

It's my hope (in a perfect world), that the 2nd Amendment is at least modified.

I mean come on, it was originally intended so people could form a militia and resist oppression by their government - like that's going to happen.

Guns are necessary for insurance against a government tyranny. If you give the government all the guns, what are you going to do when the government runs amok?

Politicians need to recognize the fact that at any time we can shut down their 'little' racket if we so choose.

How is that logical reasoning for you, Mr. Gun Grabber?

Doesn't appear logical to me, it appears to be paranoia.

Look at history. It is well justified 'paranoia. '

How in the world do you think we won the Revolutionary War in the first place? It sure as heck wasn't with baseball bats and knives. Us Americans decided we didn't want to be taxed anymore by the British, and we were willing to go to war over it. With no guns, we would probably still be under British rule right now.

The same thing could happen again when we have decided we have had enough, and we would need our guns to initiate a second Amercian revolution. Take away all the guns and you are now permanently the government's little b!tch.

Ok, forgetting for a minute that that happened 224 years ago, and that the American government you're going to overthrow is comprised of...well Americans, voted into office by Americans (exactly who are you going to fight) - exactly what kind of government do you propose to create afterwards?

What if we are tired of mass franchise democracy? What if we want a different kind of government, or what if some states or group of states simply want to secede and form their own country?

You think the politicians who were in power prior to the change in government are just going to leave office? I seriously doubt it.

Just because the first revolution happened 224 years ago doesn't mean that something similar couldn't happen again. We need to insure the potential for a radical change to happen. If we don't, those who are in power will increase their power and the final check on government rule will be eliminated.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
You see, it's you paranoid quacks that have me worried.

Having a gun is one thing (even if I don't agree with it), some people own them for target practice, hunting or personal protection.

But it's paranoid fools like you that have machine guns in your basement.

Oh yeah, we are all paranoid quacks with machine guns in our basements. That's it, you've got it pegged. :roll:

Ignore history, ignore the nature of power and go along your little way thinking that the government will take care of everything.
 

CFster

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Absolutely never happen.

If anything, there's so much government that's it's entrenched in every part of our lives. Like it or not. Most people would never let it happen. It would mean a fundamental change to our way of life, which is currently pretty good. Nobody wants chaos.

I believe that if the government collapsed, it would be due to some kind of economic hardship, not a bunch of yokels coming down Connecticut Ave with shotguns.







 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You see, it's you paranoid quacks that have me worried.

Having a gun is one thing (even if I don't agree with it), some people own them for target practice, hunting or personal protection.

But it's paranoid fools like you that have machine guns in your basement.

Oh yeah, we are all paranoid quacks with machine guns in our basements. That's it, you've got it pegged. :roll:

Ignore history, ignore the nature of power and go along your little way thinking that the government will take care of everything.

Exactly what are you afraid of?



 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Absolutely never happen.

If anything, there's so much government that's it's entrenched in every part of our lives. Like it or not. Most people would never let it happen. It would mean a fundamental change to our way of life, which is currently pretty good. Nobody wants chaos.

I believe that if the government collapsed, it would be due to some kind of economic hardship, not a bunch of yokels coming down Connecticut Ave with shotguns.

I predict something will happen within 50 years. Just look at the scandals and how low the popularity ratings are for the Bush administration.

People change their minds. Fortunately, we don't continue thinking the same exact things forever. Just because the current population goes along with the way things are now doesn't mean the next generation will.

There are at least a couple hundred million guns in America. It is not just slack jawed yokels who own them. Your attempt to paint every gun owner as a radical militia joining, machine gun owning, Timothy McVeigh type just makes you look more and more like a fool.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: CFster
You see, it's you paranoid quacks that have me worried.

Having a gun is one thing (even if I don't agree with it), some people own them for target practice, hunting or personal protection.

But it's paranoid fools like you that have machine guns in your basement.

Oh yeah, we are all paranoid quacks with machine guns in our basements. That's it, you've got it pegged. :roll:

Ignore history, ignore the nature of power and go along your little way thinking that the government will take care of everything.

Exactly what are you afraid of?

Nothing more than what the average citizen is afraid of. I own a gun (only 1 gun) for three reasons:

A. Personal protection (especially during times right after some disaster).

B. An insurance policy against government tyranny. Even though I don't think a revolution will happen anytime soon, I think it is good for all competent good willed citizens to own at least one firearm, just in case.

C. As a semi-hobby shooting targets

I don't stockpile weapons and I don't own a machine gun. My gun sits in my closet 99.999% of the time. When I do use it, all I do is target practice at an indoor range. That's it.
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
I predict something will happen within 50 years. Just look at the scandals and how low the popularity ratings are for the Bush administration.

Well, my opinion about that is it's... well...the Bush administration. Sort of speaks for itself. Doesn't the NRA love the Bush administration?


There are at least a couple hundred million guns in America. It is not just slack jawed yokels who own them. Your attempt to paint every gun owner as a radical militia joining, machine gun owning, Timothy McVeigh type just makes you look more and more like a fool.

No I'm just talking about the paranoid ones who want to start a war just because they can.

As I expected, you have no reason WHY, you just CAN and that's enough.

You haven't yet explained what you're going to do after you create this military state.



 

CFster

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B. An insurance policy against government tyranny. Even though I don't think a revolution will happen anytime soon, I think it is good for all competent good willed citizens to own at least one firearm, just in case.

Man that's comical.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Dissipate
I predict something will happen within 50 years. Just look at the scandals and how low the popularity ratings are for the Bush administration.

Well, my opinion about that is it's... well...the Bush administration. Sort of speaks for itself. Doesn't the NRA love the Bush administration?


There are at least a couple hundred million guns in America. It is not just slack jawed yokels who own them. Your attempt to paint every gun owner as a radical militia joining, machine gun owning, Timothy McVeigh type just makes you look more and more like a fool.

No I'm just talking about the paranoid ones who want to start a war just because they can.

As I expected, you have no reason WHY, you just CAN and that's enough.

You haven't yet explained what you're going to do after you create this military state.

The NRA just supports conservative candidates they think support gun rights. I myself as a gun owner do not support the Bush administration.

It sounds to me like you are paranoid of paranoid people. How many of these 'paranoid' people do you think are out there? Are you paranoid they are going to use their guns to come and get you?

I just gave you 3 reasons why I own a gun. I don't own a gun just beacuse I can. In fact, I don't do anything just because I can. Most people don't either. People do things for a reason.

What the heck does this have to do with a 'military state?' Now you are just trying to change the subject.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: CFster
B. An insurance policy against government tyranny. Even though I don't think a revolution will happen anytime soon, I think it is good for all competent good willed citizens to own at least one firearm, just in case.

Man that's comical.

Only to someone who is as ignorant of history and human nature as you are.
 
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