Little girl shooting minigun

[TallBill]

I've read several different percentages, but over 90% of firearm related crime in the US is with illegal guns.

Our real problem is that people unfit to have children continue to have children, and multiple.

The book Freakonomics explains how legalizing abortion was the key factor to the crime rate plummeting here.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: TallBill
I've read several different percentages, but over 90% of firearm related crime in the US is with illegal guns.

Our real problem is that people unfit to have children continue to have children, and multiple.

The book Freakonomics explains how legalizing abortion was the key factor to the crime rate plummeting here.

This is very true but Un-PC so a lot of people will simply attack you rather than think.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

This is very true bun Un-PC so a lot of people will simply attack you rather than think.

Meh, they can "attack" me all they want. But it would be like me arguing about cars. I'm clueless about them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: LordSegan

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LordSegan
I will also add that Los Angeles City (not county) has more gun deaths than total deaths per year in Israel. Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world.

Oh, and the pop of LA is 3.8 mil, the pop is IL is 6+ mil.

I just re-read this again, and I'd like you to post your facts, beause unless Israelis live a LOOOOOONG time that just doesn't add up.

OK here it is:

LA pop: 3.8 mil http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html
IL pop: 6.2 mil http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html

IL deaths: From 2000 to 2004, "In the Palestinian attacks, about 1,001 Israelis were killed (up to September 2004) and 6,700 were wounded (source: Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs)."

LA city deaths: In 2004, there were 31,245 recorded violent crimes of which 518 were homicides.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles


Israel has a VERY VERY VERY low non-war related gun homicide rate which is about 2.3 per 1 million, or about 15 per year

I'm confused about how you got from point A to point B here.

You started out comparing gun deaths in LA to "total deaths per year in Israel", and you said "Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world."

Now you're comparing total homicides (including non-gun homicides) in LA to total homicides in Israel (not what you originally said). Comparing a gang-infested city to an entire country, which includes non-urban areas where crime rates are lower.

And do you honestly think that the gangs wouldn't kill each other if you took their guns away?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: TallBill
I've read several different percentages, but over 90% of firearm related crime in the US is with illegal guns.

Our real problem is that people unfit to have children continue to have children, and multiple.

The book Freakonomics explains how legalizing abortion was the key factor to the crime rate plummeting here.

This is very true bun Un-PC so a lot of people will simply attack you rather than think.

Alright, so who-all is pro-choice here? Represent!

 

[KarenMarie]

blaming guns for violence/gun deaths is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
blaming guns for violence/gun deaths is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes.

I KNEW IT! My stupid #2 was fvcking with me the whole time!

 

[Queasy]

My wife's response - "White people ain't got nothing better to do." :laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
blaming guns for violence/gun deaths is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes.

You are a smart lady, just in case no one tells you enough on a regular basis.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Perknose
Alright, so who-all is pro-choice here? Represent!

Elites trolling now?

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JonnyStarks
Holy cow that looks like fun

It sure does. I have friends with licensed full auto weapons so I get to shoot them too and it really is a blast. I can tell you that what you see on TV is BS.....if I have a Mac 11 in my hand and you are within 30 yards you are 100% guarranteed to be dead or critically wounded if I am shooting at you....even from the hip. The movies make it look like a gun battle lasts a long time with full auto....no they don't.

ty mr gun expert....

although why dont you save your "expertise" to someone that has actually served and SHOT and auto...

(not me either, my uncle and borther)

not to mention a MAC11 and 10 is highly inaccurate and would not be easy to hit someone at 30 yards

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Perknose
Alright, so who-all is pro-choice here? Represent!

Elites trolling now?

Don't poke him with sticks, you'll get banned.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
blaming guns for violence/gun deaths is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes.

You are a smart lady, just in case no one tells you enough on a regular basis.

Wow! that caught me off guard.

thank you. i appreciate that, very much.

:wine:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Nik

Don't poke him with sticks, you'll get banned.

He can ban me if he wants, it says so in my sig.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Nik

Don't poke him with sticks, you'll get banned.

He can ban me if he wants, it says so in my sig.

Cool. Here, take this giant stick and poke him right in the ass for me. :evil:

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JonnyStarks
Holy cow that looks like fun

It sure does. I have friends with licensed full auto weapons so I get to shoot them too and it really is a blast. I can tell you that what you see on TV is BS.....if I have a Mac 11 in my hand and you are within 30 yards you are 100% guarranteed to be dead or critically wounded if I am shooting at you....even from the hip. The movies make it look like a gun battle lasts a long time with full auto....no they don't.

ty mr gun expert....

although why dont you save your "expertise" to someone that has actually served and SHOT and auto...

(not me either, my uncle and borther)

Read further.... I have shot full auto, I know how they react. I was a better shot with an MG34 then my buddy who bougth the darn thing. He couldn't hit a milk jug full of water at 75 yards because he was aiming AT the jug, I hit it becuase I aimed BELOW it and let the gun draw up through the target. I know a little about what I speak of, thank you very much.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Perknose
Alright, so who-all is pro-choice here? Represent!

Elites trolling now?

STFU, punk. Were you just not bright enough to follow the logic from TallBill and Roonstang in my post or did your Canadian Ritalin get lost in the mail again?

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LordSegan

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LordSegan
I will also add that Los Angeles City (not county) has more gun deaths than total deaths per year in Israel. Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world.

Oh, and the pop of LA is 3.8 mil, the pop is IL is 6+ mil.

I just re-read this again, and I'd like you to post your facts, beause unless Israelis live a LOOOOOONG time that just doesn't add up.

OK here it is:

LA pop: 3.8 mil http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html
IL pop: 6.2 mil http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html

IL deaths: From 2000 to 2004, "In the Palestinian attacks, about 1,001 Israelis were killed (up to September 2004) and 6,700 were wounded (source: Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs)."

LA city deaths: In 2004, there were 31,245 recorded violent crimes of which 518 were homicides.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles


Israel has a VERY VERY VERY low non-war related gun homicide rate which is about 2.3 per 1 million, or about 15 per year

I'm confused about how you got from point A to point B here.

You started out comparing gun deaths in LA to "total deaths per year in Israel", and you said "Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world."

Now you're comparing total homicides (including non-gun homicides) in LA to total homicides in Israel (not what you originally said). Comparing a gang-infested city to an entire country, which includes non-urban areas where crime rates are lower.

And do you honestly think that the gangs wouldn't kill each other if you took their guns away?

My main point was that its more dangerous to live in LA than in Israel. According to this link, about 70% of LA *county* homicides are firearms. http://www.vpcla.org/factFirearms.htm

If you want to compare firearm deaths to firearm deaths LA to IL I believe it actually makes it look worse for LA (since so many IL deaths have been bombings).

Also, I was wrong about the no of IL homicides slightly... there are about 120-175 a year that are not related to terrorism, not just 15.

But the bottom line remains, are you are more likely to die of a homicide in LA than a homicide in IL.

Also, assume that 70% of 500 LA CITY deaths are gun related, thats 350 deaths from guns alone! Now IL has had ABOUT 450 deaths a year from TERRORISM and CRIME....

 

[Pocatello]

Wow, I wish I could do something like that. All I have is a shotgun and a .22 pistol.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Why is it many Americans have no problems allowing children to operate instruments of death (lets be honest these guns were invented for no other purpose but effecient slaughter)
yet they will flood the FCC with complaints that a flash of a female nipple (think Janet Jackson at the Superbowl which generated record complaints) is harmful to thier children?
We, as a society, apparently no longer have an issue with the simulation of a persons brains being blown out on TV (this happens daily but generates few if any complaints) but can't handle the naked human body.

We are a SICK, SICK country.

Violence=Yay!
Sex=Nay!

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: LordSegan


My main point was that its more dangerous to live in LA than in Israel. According to this link, about 70% of LA *county* homicides are firearms. http://www.vpcla.org/factFirearms.htm

If you want to compare firearm deaths to firearm deaths LA to IL I believe it actually makes it look worse for LA (since so many IL deaths have been bombings).

Also, I was wrong about the no of IL homicides slightly... there are about 120-175 a year that are not related to terrorism, not just 15.

But the bottom line remains, are you are more likely to die of a homicide in LA than a homicide in IL.

just curious... what are the gun laws like in LA?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Why is it many Americans have no problems allowing children to operate instruments of death (lets be honest these guns were invented for no other purpose but effecient slaughter)
yet they will flood the FCC with complaints that a flash of a female nipple (think Janet Jackson at the Superbowl which generated record complaints) is harmful to thier children?
We, as a society, apparently no longer have an issue with the simulation of a persons brains being blown out on TV (this happens daily but generates few if any complaints) but can't handle the naked human body.

We are a SICK, SICK country.

I'd rather my kids shoot guns than see that monstrosity's nakedness.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Why is it many Americans have no problems allowing children to operate instruments of death (lets be honest these guns were invented for no other purpose but effecient slaughter)
yet they will flood the FCC with complaints that a flash of a female nipple (think Janet Jackson at the Superbowl which generated record complaints) is harmful to thier children?
We, as a society, apparently no longer have an issue with the simulation of a persons brains being blown out on TV (this happens daily but generates few if any complaints) but can't handle the naked human body.

We are a SICK, SICK country.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[everman]

Originally posted by: LordSegan

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LordSegan

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LordSegan
I will also add that Los Angeles City (not county) has more gun deaths than total deaths per year in Israel. Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world.

Oh, and the pop of LA is 3.8 mil, the pop is IL is 6+ mil.

I just re-read this again, and I'd like you to post your facts, beause unless Israelis live a LOOOOOONG time that just doesn't add up.

OK here it is:

LA pop: 3.8 mil http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html
IL pop: 6.2 mil http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html

IL deaths: From 2000 to 2004, "In the Palestinian attacks, about 1,001 Israelis were killed (up to September 2004) and 6,700 were wounded (source: Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs)."

LA city deaths: In 2004, there were 31,245 recorded violent crimes of which 518 were homicides.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles


Israel has a VERY VERY VERY low non-war related gun homicide rate which is about 2.3 per 1 million, or about 15 per year

I'm confused about how you got from point A to point B here.

You started out comparing gun deaths in LA to "total deaths per year in Israel", and you said "Basically its more dangerous to live in LA than in one of the worst terrorist hot beds in the world."

Now you're comparing total homicides (including non-gun homicides) in LA to total homicides in Israel (not what you originally said). Comparing a gang-infested city to an entire country, which includes non-urban areas where crime rates are lower.

And do you honestly think that the gangs wouldn't kill each other if you took their guns away?

My main point was that its more dangerous to live in LA than in Israel. According to this link, about 70% of LA *county* homicides are firearms. http://www.vpcla.org/factFirearms.htm

If you want to compare firearm deaths to firearm deaths LA to IL I believe it actually makes it look worse for LA (since so many IL deaths have been bombings).

Also, I was wrong about the no of IL homicides slightly... there are about 120-175 a year that are not related to terrorism, not just 15.

But the bottom line remains, are you are more likely to die of a homicide in LA than a homicide in IL.

Also, assume that 70% of 500 LA CITY deaths are gun related, thats 350 deaths from guns alone! Now IL has had ABOUT 450 deaths a year from TERRORISM and CRIME....

So what would you say LA city needs to do in order to decrease that number?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: LordSegan


My main point was that its more dangerous to live in LA than in Israel. According to this link, about 70% of LA *county* homicides are firearms. http://www.vpcla.org/factFirearms.htm

If you want to compare firearm deaths to firearm deaths LA to IL I believe it actually makes it look worse for LA (since so many IL deaths have been bombings).

Also, I was wrong about the no of IL homicides slightly... there are about 120-175 a year that are not related to terrorism, not just 15.

But the bottom line remains, are you are more likely to die of a homicide in LA than a homicide in IL.

just curious... what are the gun laws like in LA?

Part of your license requires a marksmanship test at emergency aid helecopters -oh wait, Los Angeles or Louisianna?