little question about buying

[olds]

Hello Anandtech. This is LLoose from Hardforum. Since this thread was made about me, I thought I should come and give my side of the story.

I put up an ATI HD 4870 for sale on Hardforum. I had qtnguyen87 send me a pm asking me for my paypal address. I was out to lunch at the time so I didn't bother to look at his profile. I sent him my email address and he sent payment. When I got back to my office, I checked him profile. He is 5 days old with 0 posts. I don't know the rules here on Anandtech, but on Hardfourms, you have to have at least 50 posts to participate in the ForSale forum. On top of that, I didn't feel comfortable selling my card to somebody who has such a weak account. I have been scammed before and it took me months to get refunded and things to get worked out. With 0 posts on the forum, I couldn't even get support from the admins on hardforum because I would be bypassing a security measure put in place by the admins to protect sellers like me from bad buyers.

I gave Qtnguyen87 a FULL refund and an apology message explaining the situation and he flew off the handle. Unlike him thuogh, I consider PRIVATE MESSAGES to be private, so I will be just sharing them with the admins instead of posting them here like Qtnguyen does, although I wish I could so you could see how rude and belligerent he has been.


As for the feedback, it says..

http://www.heatware.com/support_faq.php


Qtnguyen87 went ahead anyways and left a negative remark even though no transaction was made (I issues a full refund immediately, there was no "exchange" of anything). This is a shame because if you read my previous feedback, you will see that I go WAY out of my way to make sure that the buyer is happy. I have already emailed a complaint to heatware, hopefully it doesn't take too long before its removed.


Thanks for reading Anandtech users. Hopefully this will help clear my name from the crap this guy is trying to pull.

You were a complete idiot. A proper response might have been, "I am at lunch, I'll get back to you after I check you out."
But you're a douche that posts on H, so your gross incompetence is understandable.

 

[waggy]

both of them are idiots. but the OP is fucking nuts on top of it.

 

[AceHoleGoober]

I agree that the seller had an absence of judgement and shouldn't have taken payment before checking out the buyer's refs.

You were a complete idiot. A proper response might have been, "I am at lunch, I'll get back to you after I check you out."

What I don't agree with is judging someone based on what forum they are a member of. Bigotry shouldn't be a factor as to one's trading reputation.

But you're a douche that posts on H, so your gross incompetence is understandable.

 

[Zinn]

The OP seems like a pretty belligerent person. And negative feedback for a transaction that didn't happen is just pathetic. Welcome to my DNT list!

 

[olds]

I agree that the seller had an absence of judgement and shouldn't have taken payment before checking out the buyer's refs.



What I don't agree with is judging someone based on what forum they are a member of. Bigotry shouldn't be a factor as to one's trading reputation.

Yes it should. But you'll learn.

 

[alkemyst]

I've also made agreements to buy something and chosen not to go forward (before money changed hands). Shit happens.

Fucking terrible attitude to have. This really fucks up a seller because while you agreed to purchase said item and went to go beat off to think if you really wanted to agree; the seller probably told others the item was taken who then just ebayed it or found another seller.

This doesn't happen much on AT, but on [H] it is pretty regular.

Don't put a hold on an item while you continue shopping.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Reminds me of someone I tried to send some fans to on here. I didn't want payment for them, I just wanted to send them for free (free ship too), since I had so many of them.
I sent them just before I went on vaca for three months. While I was on vaca, I had my mail forwarded out there. I got the package back, beat up, with a sticker on it that said "Unclaimed - return to sender". I tried, after getting back from vaca, to contact the other party to attempt to send it again, but he has stopped responding to my PMs.

I think that the box is still in my van, haven't gone through and cleaned it out yet. Was going to take a pic with my digicam and PM him with it, to prove I'm not lying, and that I did send it.

Hopefully, I didn't get a negative heat just because someone couldn't be diligent to pick up their package.

Edit: Just checked my heatware, still 2-0-0. Although, I thought it used to be 3-0-0. Maybe I'm imagining things.

 

[AlienCraft]

It looks like a simple misunderstanding/mistake to me. The guy (LLoose) refunded your money and cited the trading terms on Hardforum, which he inadvertently overlooked when the sale was initially completed. When I sell on eBay, I explicitly have a line in my sale which says I reserve the right to sell to people with 1) recent negative feedback or 2) lack of feedbacks.

Judging by how you're flying off the handle so easily, I think LLoose made the right decision.

Exactly. Besides, I would refuse it based on the improper word use. (there vs their)
God , I hate people like that!

 

[esquared]

Hello Anandtech. This is LLoose from Hardforum. Since this thread was made about me, I thought I should come and give my side of the story.

I put up an ATI HD 4870 for sale on Hardforum. I had qtnguyen87 send me a pm asking me for my paypal address. I was out to lunch at the time so I didn't bother to look at his profile. I sent him my email address and he sent payment. When I got back to my office, I checked him profile. He is 5 days old with 0 posts. I don't know the rules here on Anandtech, but on Hardfourms, you have to have at least 50 posts to participate in the ForSale forum. On top of that, I didn't feel comfortable selling my card to somebody who has such a weak account. I have been scammed before and it took me months to get refunded and things to get worked out. With 0 posts on the forum, I couldn't even get support from the admins on hardforum because I would be bypassing a security measure put in place by the admins to protect sellers like me from bad buyers.

I gave Qtnguyen87 a FULL refund and an apology message explaining the situation and he flew off the handle. Unlike him thuogh, I consider PRIVATE MESSAGES to be private, so I will be just sharing them with the admins instead of posting them here like Qtnguyen does, although I wish I could so you could see how rude and belligerent he has been.


As for the feedback, it says..

http://www.heatware.com/support_faq.php


Qtnguyen87 went ahead anyways and left a negative remark even though no transaction was made (I issues a full refund immediately, there was no "exchange" of anything). This is a shame because if you read my previous feedback, you will see that I go WAY out of my way to make sure that the buyer is happy. I have already emailed a complaint to heatware, hopefully it doesn't take too long before its removed.


Thanks for reading Anandtech users. Hopefully this will help clear my name from the crap this guy is trying to pull.

If he left you a negative feedback you can request that it be removed and it will be removed.

I have dealt with this for years in FS/T and the Heatware rule is that BOTH parties need to exchange goods and/or money to be able to leave heat.

All you need to do is send an email to heatware and it will be taken care of.

 

[TonyH]

http://www.heatware.com/support_faq.php

If one party backs out of the deal even after a verbal agreement has been made, NO evaluation can be given to either party. If no goods or money was exchanged, the "deal" is not eligible for evaluation. If you have received an evaluation for a "deal" that did not take place, please contact us.

If the seller refunded the money then the deal is not eligible for evaluation. This precedence has been established since the early days of HeatWare. The evaluation will be removed.