Living on boat in city harbour anyone?

Nomada

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Anybody ever live on a sailboat moored in a city harbour for a period of time(1 yr.+). Is it feasible to maintain sanity, and was it much cheaper than renting, etc. Are the fees bordering on criminal?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Nomada
Anybody ever live on a sailboat moored in a city harbour for a period of time(1 yr.+). Is it feasible to maintain sanity, and was it much cheaper than renting, etc. Are the fees bordering on criminal?

My Mom lived on a 43' sailboat for 10 years. I also worked with a single guy who lived on a 31' sailboat. He lived in Marina del Rey and San Diego on that boat. I don't know how expensive it was but sailboats are nothing compared to a house so it would come down to slip fees. BTW-You can mortgage a liveaboard boat like a home so you can write off the interest on your tax return.
 

Maiora

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It's great IMO.

You sound like a curious landlubber to me.

Try taking the "test" I have outlined below to see if this really fits your lifestyle. If you can do it, congratulations!

Move everything into your smallest bedroom.

Use plywood to block off everything in your bathroom except a 3' x 3' square over your toilet. Use the shower in the EIGHTH house down the street for bathing to simulate walking from your boat to the marina showers down the dock.

Use a laundromat to wash all your clothes. Park your car a minimum of 300' from the laundromat to simulate hauling the clothes and stuff up the dock. Do laundry at LONG odd intervals, only when you would be in a marina that HAS a laundry. Take a cab to a strange laundry across town to simulate stopping at a marina without one or with one that is broken.

Seal off your kitchen and cook all your meals on a camp stove in the little bedroom so you can experience sleeping in a boat where someone burned dinner.

Get a humidifier and run it wide open in the bedroom for practice in "mildew control".

Shut the breaker off to your water heater, air conditioner and any other electrical luxuries...leaving only one 20A circuit energized.

Use more plywood to block off 3/4 of the closet so you can practice storing stuff in lockers. Cut off your TV cable and watch TV on rabbit ears.

Use a car stereo instead of your big home entertainment system. Park your car at the same house you take showers (8 houses away).

Put in a Change-of-Address card and have all your mail sent to a friend's house 20 miles away.

Rebuild your toilet once a month taking apart all the plumbing and putting it back together.

Every time you do anything electrical, leave your lawn mower running outside your bedroom window for "The Generator Effect".

Take the screens off your windows and leave them open so every fly, mosquito and gnat in the yard has easy access to your "cabin".

Use a boat battery to power all your "stuff" through an inverter. Charge it only once a week to simulate being in a marina.

Give that 8th neighbor $7/foot every 30 days.

When you fill up your car, say with $15 in gas, give the 8th neighbor an extra $15 to simulate marina gas prices.

Don't go to WalMart. Buy all your supplies at the most expensive 7-11 you can find. If you MUST go to any other store, use public transportation or call a cab...livaboards don't have cars on their boats.

Paint your house, or pay the most expensive painting company in town to paint your house, every year. Use the most expensive paint you can find. Paint the bottom floor twice to simulate putting anti-fouling paint on a hull.

Take your car to the most expensive dealership in town. Have him overhaul the engine and do whatever he wants to it every year. Make believe he is the ONLY place this can be done within 100 miles. Be nice and smile at him.

-M/S
 

Nomada

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f'n' funny Maiora, though you probably hit it spot on. I could deal with most of that though. Spent a couple winters urban camping in a tent, with not much more than the old Primus. It sounds like a hoot though.
 

jadinolf

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Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Maiora
It's great IMO.

You sound like a curious landlubber to me.

Try taking the "test" I have outlined below to see if this really fits your lifestyle. If you can do it, congratulations!

Move everything into your smallest bedroom.

Use plywood to block off everything in your bathroom except a 3' x 3' square over your toilet. Use the shower in the EIGHTH house down the street for bathing to simulate walking from your boat to the marina showers down the dock.

Use a laundromat to wash all your clothes. Park your car a minimum of 300' from the laundromat to simulate hauling the clothes and stuff up the dock. Do laundry at LONG odd intervals, only when you would be in a marina that HAS a laundry. Take a cab to a strange laundry across town to simulate stopping at a marina without one or with one that is broken.

Seal off your kitchen and cook all your meals on a camp stove in the little bedroom so you can experience sleeping in a boat where someone burned dinner.

Get a humidifier and run it wide open in the bedroom for practice in "mildew control".

Shut the breaker off to your water heater, air conditioner and any other electrical luxuries...leaving only one 20A circuit energized.

Use more plywood to block off 3/4 of the closet so you can practice storing stuff in lockers. Cut off your TV cable and watch TV on rabbit ears.

Use a car stereo instead of your big home entertainment system. Park your car at the same house you take showers (8 houses away).

Put in a Change-of-Address card and have all your mail sent to a friend's house 20 miles away.

Rebuild your toilet once a month taking apart all the plumbing and putting it back together.

Every time you do anything electrical, leave your lawn mower running outside your bedroom window for "The Generator Effect".

Take the screens off your windows and leave them open so every fly, mosquito and gnat in the yard has easy access to your "cabin".

Use a boat battery to power all your "stuff" through an inverter. Charge it only once a week to simulate being in a marina.

Give that 8th neighbor $7/foot every 30 days.

When you fill up your car, say with $15 in gas, give the 8th neighbor an extra $15 to simulate marina gas prices.

Don't go to WalMart. Buy all your supplies at the most expensive 7-11 you can find. If you MUST go to any other store, use public transportation or call a cab...livaboards don't have cars on their boats.

Paint your house, or pay the most expensive painting company in town to paint your house, every year. Use the most expensive paint you can find. Paint the bottom floor twice to simulate putting anti-fouling paint on a hull.

Take your car to the most expensive dealership in town. Have him overhaul the engine and do whatever he wants to it every year. Make believe he is the ONLY place this can be done within 100 miles. Be nice and smile at him.

-M/S

Very eloquent and very true.
 

Crab cake

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Nomada
Anybody ever live on a sailboat moored in a city harbour for a period of time(1 yr.+). Is it feasible to maintain sanity, and was it much cheaper than renting, etc. Are the fees bordering on criminal?

My Mom lived on a 43' sailboat for 10 years. I also worked with a single guy who lived on a 31' sailboat. He lived in Marina del Rey and San Diego on that boat. I don't know how expensive it was but sailboats are nothing compared to a house so it would come down to slip fees. BTW-You can mortgage a liveaboard boat like a home so you can write off the interest on your tax return.

You can't do it in Marina Del Rey anymore. By the way, the mooring fee was only $250 a month. Complaints from the high-rent luxury yatch owners forced the city to kick out all the "permanent" residents back in the mid 90's.
 
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