Liz Cheney interview spilling on the Republicans during impeachment and Jan 6 insurrection.

HomerJS

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Liz Cheney contends the possibility of Trump getting a second term is a five alarm alert. Is she right or is this just TDS (Trump Deraignment Syndrome)




Just a side note Mike Johnson (current Speaker) plans to release the remaining Jan 6 footage but will blur out faces because he doesn't want others prosecuted. Seems to fit in to the threat to democracy.
 

JTsyo

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but will blur out faces because he doesn't want others prosecuted
Prosecuted for a peaceful visit to the Capitol? Can't keep their story straight?

In other news, heard Liz Cheney is considering a run as an independent.
 

LightPattern

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Considering everyone who's answered the poll so far has voted "Yes - 5 Alarms" what can we realistically do to prevent him from being elected beyond the normal things?
"Normal things" (feel free to add)​
  • Organize and try to knock down cynicism
  • Make calls
  • Send letters
  • March?
If anyone wants to PM me rather than put information in the thread, I'd welcome it.
 

ivwshane

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The normal thing is to vote and voting is the correct remedy. I have faith the 80 million people who voted against him the first time will show up again this time.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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While I basically disagree with like 90% of Liz Cheney's brand of conservatism, I have to give her credit where it is due for having the most balls on any Pub I've ever seen and basically just calling DT out for what he is.

ESPECIALLY when other conservatives/Pubs feel the same way she does but STFU out of "fear of reprisal" and other bullshit.
 
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Pens1566

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Cheney is still a piece of shit that no one has ever called her on her statements about D's in favor of "post birth abortions".
 

fskimospy

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Cheney is still a piece of shit that no one has ever called her on her statements about D's in favor of "post birth abortions".
There are two realms of disagreement here and one is far more important than the other.

Liz Cheney has terrible policy ideas. Absolutely awful ones. They totally deserve criticism. That being said, we should embrace her as an ally because she, unlike many republicans, is okay with those policy ideas not being implemented if they lose in elections. That’s the difference.
 

Pens1566

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There are two realms of disagreement here and one is far more important than the other.

Liz Cheney has terrible policy ideas. Absolutely awful ones. They totally deserve criticism. That being said, we should embrace her as an ally because she, unlike many republicans, is okay with those policy ideas not being implemented if they lose in elections. That’s the difference.

And yet that "ally" is still strongly considering a 3rd party/no-labels run that would do the exact thing she claims to be fighting against ...
 

woolfe9998

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There are two realms of disagreement here and one is far more important than the other.

Liz Cheney has terrible policy ideas. Absolutely awful ones. They totally deserve criticism. That being said, we should embrace her as an ally because she, unlike many republicans, is okay with those policy ideas not being implemented if they lose in elections. That’s the difference.

I would add to that something I've said before when republicans criticize Trump and people call them a piece of shit for being conservative, which is that it's actually far more useful to have a conservative republican calling out Trump for being a dictator than it is for a liberal or say, a journalist. In fact, the more one disagrees with her ideas, the better she is in this role. Maddow herself understood that well, which is why she spent 5 minutes in her video saying how she is polar opposite of Cheney on every issue, before interviewing her.

I will also say that Cheney has shown some character in all this. She gave up first her leadership then her seat to oppose Trump.
 
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