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Harvey

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Marriage is about having offspring. That is my definition of marriage. When people of the same sex have the ability to do that, maybe I will support gay marriage, but right now, no.
My, aren't we shallow of thought and compassion? :roll:

Many straight couples choose not to have children for any number of reasons. Why should you give a damn if a two intelligent, productive, tax paying citizens who contribute to society who also happen to be a loving, caring gay couple, want to express their love by sharing the civil rights and responsiblities of marriage?

Why should you care if they can get better health care, transfer property, share medical decisions, and enjoy all the other benefits afforded to other intelligent, productive, tax paying citizens who contribute to society and who also happen to be a loving, caring straight couple?

If you have no rational answer for that, all you're left with is bigoted prejudice. :|
 

raildogg

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Oh boy, here comes Harvey with his bolded letters and angry faces, aren't I surprised.

The world just isn't ready for gay marriage at this point. I am not either.

Will try to add more later, but time for job ...
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Oh boy, here comes Harvey with his bolded letters and angry faces, aren't I surprised.
Oh boy. Here comes raildogg to piss and moan about somebody taking issue with his post.
The world just isn't ready for gay marriage at this point. I am not either.
The world needs more tolerance. We have enough death and hurt in the world with the Islamic fun-dumb-mentalists using their dogma as an excuse to foster hatred for all western civilization, with the "Christian Taliban" fun-dumb-mentalists using their dogma as an excuse to take over other countries while still finding enough time to piss and moan about such trivia as whether a loving couple happens to be of the same gender.

All of them can take their blind idiocy and shove it. :|
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
Oh boy, here comes Harvey with his bolded letters and angry faces, aren't I surprised.
Oh boy. Here comes raildogg to piss and moan about somebody taking issue with his post.
The world just isn't ready for gay marriage at this point. I am not either.
The world needs more tolerance. We have enough death and hurt in the world with the Islamic fun-dumb-mentalists using their dogma as an excuse to foster hatred for all western civilization, with the "Christian Taliban" fun-dumb-mentalists using their dogma as an excuse to take over other countries while still finding enough time to piss and moan about such trivia as whether a loving couple happens to be of the same gender.

All of them can take their blind idiocy and shove it. :|

:beer::thumbsup:

Hey I'm all for more tolerance in this world, cuz it's really what is needed most in this world, we are all people, and we should all respect our fellow man, we are all in this together, we all live on the same Earth and as such I think our personal choices should be respected.

Here is an honest question and it's not directed at anyone, but if you were in a hospital and needed a transfusion would you accept blood donated from a gay or lesbian donor if you knew that blood was coming from a gay or lesbian? Hopefully you would answer yes I would take that blood no matter what, blind hatred, and hatred in general is something that is not needed in this world no matter what the circumstances
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Last I heard there was no requirement to bear children in Marriage. What's next, Government annulling Marriages due to to childlessness?
 

her209

No Lifer
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Marraige is more than just about children. Just look at the Teri Schiavo case.
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Marriage is about having offspring. That is my definition of marriage. When people of the same sex have the ability to do that, maybe I will support gay marriage, but right now, no.

Marriage should only be between a man and a woman, and this is a non-religious belief. Although all religions of this world stress marriage and creating offspring.

So straight couples who are married but never have children should not have the right to get married??? Or perhaps they should only be allowed to get married because they are straight??? Yeah the discrimination is really starting to ooze here...
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Marriage is about having kids, in my opinion. Since a man and a woman have the ability to have offspring, marriage between them is legal. Of course there are people who cannot have children or who choose not to. Plus I just feel its not right for people of the same sex to marry, maybe my attitude will change.

Besides, I have a good gay friend and have nothing against gays, but gay marriage is stretching it.

What's it to you if they get married? Frankly I couldn't care less if they did as it has absolutely no bearing on my own personal life. It seems that the extremists from both sides of the political spectrum are totally enamored with telling others what they can and cannot do based on their own perceived morality. Maybe they should mind their own god damned business.

:beer:

If you want to have marriage between a man and a man, just eliminate marriage altogether. What is the point? It is supposed to be something, it is supposed to be a man a woman sharing a life together. What comes after gay marriage?

I could care less what kind of perverse sexual activities these people engage in. But marriage is a total different issue and it is a national, or even internation issue. Over time peoples attitudes will change, but right now, overwhelming majority of the world is opposed to gay marriage.

Give gays all the equal rights and benefits they want, but marriage is reserved only for a man and a woman. Period.

How is 2 men sharing their life together differenct from 2 straights doing that? Your on very weak ground here...

Bold to indicate the discrimination... [rolls eyes]
 

Tab

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Give gays all the equal rights and benefits they want, but marriage is reserved only for a man and a woman. Period.

By whom? What right do hetrosexsual couples deserve to get this? By what right do you deny marriage to homosexsual couples? Remeamber, this is a secular goverment religious reasons don't apply here.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Marriage is about having offspring. That is my definition of marriage. When people of the same sex have the ability to do that, maybe I will support gay marriage, but right now, no.

Marriage should only be between a man and a woman, and this is a non-religious belief. Although all religions of this world stress marriage and creating offspring.

Wow, you should head to your local Christian church and preach that to all the 50+ couples who are getting remarried. They cannot have children, therefore they can't marry. I like that.
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: raildogg
I and most people view marriage as only between a man and a woman. Simple as that. Stop repeating yourself by saying I'm interfering with anyone when I'm not. I don't care what kind of sex gays engage in and don't want to know, but marriage is not a local issue belonging to one community.

Your right it isn't. It is something that affect the lives of the 2 people that want to get married and their immediate relatives. NOT YOU!
 

gutharius

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Since we are talking about who does and does not have the right to marry...

I hear by reserve the right to say RAILDOGG does not have the right to marry! If your married congrats your now divorced and your kids can now be auctioned off to the highest paying foster parent.

After all this is an issue that affects all nations and peoples and thereby we should all have the right to say you can or cannot marry this person but you can marry that person. See how this is nothing but a circular argument of people sticking their noses where they do not belong???
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: gutharius
Since we are talking about who does and does not have the right to marry...

I hear by reserve the right to say RAILDOGG does not have the right to marry! If your married congrats your now divorced and your kids can now be auctioned off to the highest paying foster parent.

Settle down, Beavis. I think you made your point.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Marriage is about having offspring.

That is my definition of marriage.

When people of the same sex have the ability to do that, maybe I will support gay marriage, but right now, no.

Marriage should only be between a man and a woman, and this is a non-religious belief.

Although all religions of this world stress marriage and creating offspring.

Who do you think you are, GOD???
 

Gamer X

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The problem with gay people is not being gay,but that they are trying
to turn everybody into gays.They are spreading gay propaganda everywhere
including schools;that way they are fvcking up young childrens' minds
from the begining.They can go and have gay sex as much as they want,why
do they want to legalize it? it's fvcking ludicrous.Legalizing gay
"marriage" is admitting that homosexuality is ok;it is not.If anybody
wants to be gay,it's ok for me,he's free to do whatever he wants,but
he is not free to turn my children into gays by raising them with the
notion that being gay is ok.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Gamer X
The problem with gay people is not being gay,but that they are trying
to turn everybody into gays.
That's a crock. If it were true, why aren't you gay, yet? :shocked:
They are spreading gay propaganda everywhere
including schools;that way they are fvcking up young childrens' minds
from the begining.
Care to provide evidence of that? If you mean they want to spread the idea that they have a right to live their own private, peaceful lives, why do you have a problem with that?
They can go and have gay sex as much as they want,why
do they want to legalize it?
Umm... Could it be to stop needless harrassment, arrest and prosecution for victimless acts between consenting adults? :roll:
it's fvcking ludicrous.Legalizing gay
"marriage" is admitting that homosexuality is ok;
Bingo!
it is not.If anybody
wants to be gay,it's ok for me,he's free to do whatever he wants,but
he is not free to turn my children into gays by raising them with the
notion that being gay is ok.
In other words, you believe gays are welcome to continue loving each other, and you should be equally free to use the law as a club to persecute them.

Can you say HYPOCRITE? :|
 

Infohawk

Lifer
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I too would like to see evidence of this gay propaganda that is trying to turn everyone into gays...
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Gamer X
The problem with gay people is not being gay,but that they are trying
to turn everybody into gays.
That's a crock. If it were true, why aren't you gay, yet? :shocked:
They are spreading gay propaganda everywhere
including schools;that way they are fvcking up young childrens' minds
from the begining.
Care to provide evidence of that? If you mean they want to spread the idea that they have a right to live their own private, peaceful lives, why do you have a problem with that?
They can go and have gay sex as much as they want,why
do they want to legalize it?
Umm... Could it be to stop needless harrassment, arrest and prosecution for victimless acts between consenting adults? :roll:
it's fvcking ludicrous.Legalizing gay
"marriage" is admitting that homosexuality is ok;
Bingo!
it is not.If anybody
wants to be gay,it's ok for me,he's free to do whatever he wants,but
he is not free to turn my children into gays by raising them with the
notion that being gay is ok.
In other words, you believe gays are welcome to continue loving each other, and you should be equally free to use the law as a club to persecute them.

Can you say HYPOCRITE? :|
I am not gay because I believe homosexuality is dirty,and I am sick of people trying to
say that every fvcking perversion is ok;we will end up legalizing bestiality and paedophilia
and organizing paedophile wedding parties.It's gonna happen soon,believe me!!
 

Infohawk

Lifer
Jan 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: Gamer X
I am not gay because I believe homosexuality is dirty,and I am sick of people trying to
say that every fvcking perversion is ok;we will end up legalizing bestiality and paedophilia
and organizing paedophile wedding parties.It's gonna happen soon,believe me!!

How do you define a sexual peversion?

Animals and children don't consent.

Can you give a date of when this bestiality / child molestation will be having wedding parties? Since it's going to happen soon, do you mean in the next year perhaps?
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Gamer X
I am not gay because I believe homosexuality is dirty,and I am sick of people trying to
say that every fvcking perversion is ok;we will end up legalizing bestiality and paedophilia
and organizing paedophile wedding parties.It's gonna happen soon,believe me!!

How do you define a sexual peversion?

Animals and children don't consent.

Can you give a date of when this bestiality / child molestation will be having wedding parties? Since it's going to happen soon, do you mean in the next year perhaps?
There articles on the internet already advocating bestiality and paedophilia.I've seen it
on forums also;one guy advocating bestiality said that when you get your penis near
a cow's mouth it will start sucking it and that means consent,others are demanding
lowering the age of consent for boys.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Gamer X
I am not gay because I believe homosexuality is dirty,and I am sick of people trying to
say that every fvcking perversion is ok;we will end up legalizing bestiality and paedophilia
and organizing paedophile wedding parties.It's gonna happen soon,believe me!!

How do you define a sexual peversion?

Animals and children don't consent.

Can you give a date of when this bestiality / child molestation will be having wedding parties? Since it's going to happen soon, do you mean in the next year perhaps?
There articles on the internet already advocating bestiality and paedophilia.I've seen it
on forums also;one guy advocating bestiality said that when you get your penis near
a cow's mouth it will start sucking it and that means consent,others are demanding
lowering the age of consent for boys.

Hahaha, fvk. Ya, I'm sure you've seen it, I'm sure people have know this since the begining of time too. Just because you've just seen it doesn't mean it just came into existance and is part of a body of evidence proving that "pedophilia wedding parties" are on the horizon. That's just ridiculous.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zebo
What's this world coming to? Spain has totally legalized gay marriage even adoption of children by gays.. Along with Netherlands and Belgium and soon to be Canada looks like a trend in the making? Or a European only type deal? Yes I count Canada as Europe..thier politics are almost identical.

http://www.wral.com/family/4675704/detail.html

Something has been bugging ever since the first time I read your thread title---WTF is LMG?

thanks for the answer in advance.
 
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