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Jaskalas

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*cough

You fixate on Trump, but American media has been screaming Muslim since 2001. We are all somewhat responsible in not opposing their characterization as terrorists. For not doing more in condemning that media narrative. For not promoting forward leaning Americans Muslims as the solution to the problem of backwards traditions.

In the "War on terror" Americans have been largely complicit in making it worse.
Bull fucking shit! If anything the media has done its best not to stir anti Muslim sentiment.

Fun quote to revisit in context.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Lemme guess...the local station in this clip is owned by Sinclair Media?

Edit: Nope, owned by Gray.
 
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soundforbjt

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Loved the first comment to the tweet: "one of the women in this video was convicted of hate speech in Austria in 2011, which cbs 7 doesn't ever think to mention "
 

Moonbeam

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A psychopath will intuitively grasp that you can make billions from bigotry and fear. The question is, 'Do we want to give psychopaths ownership of our media?'
 

sportage

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Luckily, that are a small minority.
Mentally ill yes, but still a minority.
Notice how the news bring in "traditional Family" at the end.
We all know what THAT means....
They just can't get over the fact that gays can legally marry now.
It still drives them totally INSANE.
And if not the gays, its the Muslims.
 

trenchfoot

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Insecure folks are dangerous in so many ways, especially to themselves. Being afraid of some things they know hardly anything about opens them up to those that would exploit their fears for their own purposes.

The Nazis were simply awesome at it. Millions of innocents died because of it.

And now we have the GOP for decades monkeying around with this same plot/ploy in order to convince folks it's really OK and better for them to always vote against their own best interests.
 
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Most definitely. I speak here of Kris Kobach, who is deeply embroiled in this.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...eech-against-muslims-meets-trump-advisor-kris

I'm aware of him (I moved from Kansas, Kobach's been a problem for years). I didn't know of anyone that knew of him that didn't despise him, but conservatives still enabled him because he preyed on their fears and they are too ignorant to be informed of what him and the Republicans were doing until after they'd done it. Thankfully Kansans showed at least a modicum of sense and made sure he didn't become Governor.

Like I said in that thread about that white supremacist that was coordinating parts of the Nebraska governor's re-election campaign, conservatives in the midwest need to wake up to the fact that there are full blown white supremacists (that would absolutely enact Nazi type programs if given the chance) that they're enabling by their blind devotion to the Republican party.
 

pmv

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So have you taken Hatie Kopkins off our hands? You've already got Peirs Morgan, right? Cheers for that.

Any chance you could somehow entice Nigel Farage to move over there?
 
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SlowSpyder

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What is wrong with what she said? The left today is no longer for freedom, but for control. The left today has become everything we all hated about the right "moral majority" christians before, trying to force their morality on us. She said someone was arrested for saying there are only two genders. The left today has become the big hate machine, and just as before a growing counter culture is resisting it and the pendulum is starting to swing. A poll in the UK showed that ~50% of muslims felt it should be illegal to insult their religion, draw mohammed, etc. These are real issues that are not compatible with the free westernized way of living. You guys are so far gone down the left evangelical rabbit hole you cannot even discuss valid criticism and concerns any more, you just quickly label anything that you aren't conditioned to accept by your puppet masters as "bigotry" and call it a day. No wonder Trump won.
 

Ichinisan

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There was time when the earth was flat and alternate opinions could get you burned at the stake, but the moons of Jupiter didn't seem to care.
I heard of persecution for saying Earth was not the center of the solar system / universe. Never heard of persecution for saying Earth was a sphere.
 

Ichinisan

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Loved the first comment to the tweet: "one of the women in this video was convicted of hate speech in Austria in 2011, which cbs 7 doesn't ever think to mention "

Followed the link in this thread...

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...eech-against-muslims-meets-trump-advisor-kris

"She ended by claiming free speech is under attack in Europe, something she likes to point out when discussing her conviction for hate speech. In 2009, Sabaditsch-Wolff spoke at an event organized by the academy of Austria’s far-right Freedom Party where she accused the prophet Mohammad of being a pedophile, claiming he "enjoyed having something going on with kids,” according to the Austrian Independent. She was convicted two years later of hate speech and ordered to pay a fine."

Quick Google search for "Muhammad pedophile" ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad

"Modern religious and secular criticism of Islam has concerned Muhammad's [...] , and his marriage to Aisha[19] when she was six years old,[19] which according to most estimates was consummated when she was nine.[26]"

Apparently she was prosecuted and convicted for saying the same thing I just read on Wikipedia. Who should we prosecute / convict at Wikipedia to achieve justice and fight hate?
 
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What is wrong with what she said? The left today is no longer for freedom, but for control. The left today has become everything we all hated about the right "moral majority" christians before, trying to force their morality on us. She said someone was arrested for saying there are only two genders. The left today has become the big hate machine, and just as before a growing counter culture is resisting it and the pendulum is starting to swing. A poll in the UK showed that ~50% of muslims felt it should be illegal to insult their religion, draw mohammed, etc. These are real issues that are not compatible with the free westernized way of living. You guys are so far gone down the left evangelical rabbit hole you cannot even discuss valid criticism and concerns any more, you just quickly label anything that you aren't conditioned to accept by your puppet masters as "bigotry" and call it a day. No wonder Trump won.

#fuckofftroll
 
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So have you taken Hatie Kopkins off our hands? You've already got Peirs Morgan, right? Cheers for that.

Any chance you could somehow entice Nigel Farage to move over there?

I would actually be curious if the rise in white supremacist shit here might be down to neo-Nazis moving to the US to flee persecution in Europe.
 

alternate earl

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A poll in the UK showed that ~50% of muslims felt it should be illegal to insult their religion, draw mohammed, etc. These are real issues that are not compatible with the free westernized way of living.

69% of Germans think Trump is a greater threat then terrorism. Clearly the US is no longer compatible with the free westernized way of living
 
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The various groupings of the hard right are on the rise all over the world right now it seems.

Yes, but a lot of that has come because of a very concerted movement that seems to have grown from the US and England specifically (Bannon has a role in it, there's a lot of shit that seems to be indicating Bannon got majorly financed somehow after floundering for what decades, and then turned that into action via means that don't make sense for someone like Bannon - by that I mean weaponized data analysis and manipulation - that shit sure sounds like state level intelligence services and sorry but people like Peter Thiel don't have the clout on their own for it, nor do I think they have the money either; but a corrupt government like Putin's in Russia would).

Which perhaps its not even in person, and rather that the internet has coalesced that some. But I think Bannon rode a groundswell of unified white supremacists groups that started forming in the US after other places made it clear they would not tolerate that kind of shit. I think they saw the opportunity (Iraq War, financial crises, racial tensions) and saw a populace primed for it (the long history of racial issues in the US, evangelicals, the "American exceptionalism" myth - where Americans have this deluded belief that they're pre-ordained for greatness - its fueled lots of stuff in American history from Manifest Destiny land/resource theft, to the Mormon Church and other offshoots of religions many in the form of full on cults).

But I think it was Russian resources that turned it from the grassroots stuff into what it is today. There's a LOT of white supremacist related smoke these days, I'm just hoping we don't have a Reighstag fire brewing (like say, as part of an attempt to divert from massive corruption by a certain person in American politics?).

Notice how everything right wingers rage about these days they seem to end up being guilty of? Yeah so they've been really going hard on the conspiracy stuff (and a shitload of it includes Nazis); and if you look into things, there's some bizarre crusade/unholy land mentality that's going on with Russia and the Nazis and Soviets both had some similar weird obsession with it too; its more than just strategic for Russia, in that for Russians, the Ukraine specifically has connotations to Nazis; full stop, I'm getting the weird vibe that Putin is intentionally fomenting white supremacist shit in the West - while using the same ideology, but crafted as specifically super anti-Nazi at home; so he fans those flames elsehwere, while he leverages the same mentality with the extra anti-Nazi sentiment in Russia to maintain control over the Russian people, think how Stalin used similar ideology to the Nazis and yet they hated each other but they also both kinda needed each other to justify the means they were resorting to; basically Putin has used this Nazi boogeyman, but at some point he needs there to be something legitimate behind it or the people will start to see through his bullshit but if he were to be able to point to the US/West having a very real Nazi problem, it would validate everything he's said and done; and he'd be untouchable to the point that Russians would die to defend him specifically from probably the only country in the world that might be able to hold him accountable and it has the bonus of creating chaos in those places).
 
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JSt0rm

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What is wrong with what she said? The left today is no longer for freedom, but for control. The left today has become everything we all hated about the right "moral majority" christians before, trying to force their morality on us. She said someone was arrested for saying there are only two genders. The left today has become the big hate machine, and just as before a growing counter culture is resisting it and the pendulum is starting to swing. A poll in the UK showed that ~50% of muslims felt it should be illegal to insult their religion, draw mohammed, etc. These are real issues that are not compatible with the free westernized way of living. You guys are so far gone down the left evangelical rabbit hole you cannot even discuss valid criticism and concerns any more, you just quickly label anything that you aren't conditioned to accept by your puppet masters as "bigotry" and call it a day. No wonder Trump won.

Real news doesnt show one side of a position without any counter points. This is one of the reasons your brain is so retarded.
 
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